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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

not to go back to work as DH want to retire?

107 replies

nowwhatnext · 21/10/2022 22:44

I’m going to try not to drip feed, so this will be long. And NC because of identifying details.

DH and I have been married nearly 30 years, straight from uni, and he’s 2 years younger than me. He was fired from his professional job 25 years ago for (among other things) getting drunk after work every evening and saying stupid and nasty things to his bosses. At the time, we had applied to adopt where we were living, after 5 years of trying for a child, and I had also got a new very prestigious job that paid more than his. Meanwhile he got 6 months’ notice but made no effort to look for a new job.

Then by luck, he got offered a decent job out of the blue by a friend – only, in another country, where spouses don't get work visas. So he insisted that I had to give up both my career and any chance of adoption. We nearly divorced over it, but because I could see that divorce would also end my chances of children (and because I did believe we should try to stay married!), I gave up my job and moved with him. But I told him clearly and repeatedly that he had made his choice and should not expect me to get a good job again.

By sheer luck, I later did get pregnant (with IVF etc), and we eventually up with two kids. And I and the two kids made a great effort to adapt to our new country: learning the language, making friends. DH was never really happy there, though, and always wanting to get a job in the UK. Which he finally did, 15 years ago – right when our children and I were truly settled and really didn’t want to move. But again, we followed him. His new job has kept him travelling internationally every week, and dining out (with “clients”) at least half the nights he was in the country, apart from covid. And our younger child turned out to have severe learning disabilities (as in, will never live independently).

Still, 8 years ago, I decided to go back to work. I got one firm offer in hand from my previous employer, and one very likely offer from their chief competitor, both jobs not ahead of where I had been, but not behind either. I was so flattered and pleased. When my husband found out, though, he said I couldn’t take any job here, because he had decided we were going to move to the USA. By then, I knew better than to believe we would really move (he’s always been a big talker), but the message I got was that he really, really didn’t want me to be working, wouldn’t adapt to my working, and would basically never take any job of mine as important.

So I gave up. Which I do regret. And now, aged 55 (2 years younger than me), he wants to retire. He isn’t making any effort to find a part-time or lower-stress job that would at least pay something more than I could earn stacking shelves in Tesco. We don’t have enough savings and pensions to live on for the next (possibly) 40 years even if we didn’t have a disabled child, so he is constantly grousing that I need to “get back to work” and talking to our children as if I were plain lazy and “holding a grudge from 25 years ago.”

I don’t mind going and stacking shelves in Tesco if he does too, but frankly I don’t see why I should do that just so he can sit around doing nothing. If I go back to work to support us, I might as well just support myself and our kids.

AIBU? And short of LTB, any other advice?

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Bonheurdupasse · 21/10/2022 22:46

Fuck.
He is a horrible horrible person.

tortiecat · 21/10/2022 22:50

YANBU, at all.
I can completely understand why you made the decisions you made, and I'm so sorry this man isn't worthy of you.

AnneLovesGilbert · 21/10/2022 22:51

Doesn’t sound much of a partnership. He’s taking the absolute piss. Start doing what you want to do and consider planning your future without him.

Greekycheesey · 21/10/2022 22:51

8 years ago you had 2 good job offers. Can you go back to that industry, even if it means starting lower down?

obviously leave him too. What a horrible man. Divorce him, take whatever is yours and start again with your kids and for your kids’ sake

Whataretheodds · 21/10/2022 22:53

Well definitely don't get into a situation where you are working and he isn't before you divorce him. But yeah, LTB sounds about right.

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/10/2022 23:24

To be frank, I would have dumped him when he lost his job 25 years and only got another job then through luck. His lack of drive would have permanently dried my fanny up.

He sounds awful and I have no idea how you have tolerated him all these years. I'd suggest leaving him but make sure the divorce is finalised while he's still working.

Manekinek0 · 21/10/2022 23:28

Honestly I don't see what else you can do. I wouldn't give him any ultimatums or hints, I would be getting myself a lawyer, a job lined up and finances in order. I'm just sorry it sounds like you have spent so many years pandering to him.

TheCurseOfBoris · 21/10/2022 23:36

You've sacrificed your career and followed him around. Now he wants to retire early and send you out to work.
Time to get your ducks in a row. You'll be overflowing with resentment if you stay with him.

Merryoldgoat · 21/10/2022 23:39

Well. YANBU to leave but I can’t understand any of your decision making at all I’m afraid.

You put yourself last every time, your husband never put you first, and I have no idea why you tonight it would ever be different?

How could you absent yourself from responsibility for your own life and happiness? It’s incomprehensible.

Cw112 · 21/10/2022 23:44

He sounds really selfish and only focused on his wants and needs instead of considering what suits you all best as a family. I think yes get yourself a job, get yourself a separate bank account and make sure you're able to leave and be independent if you decide to. Is he going to take over all caring responsibilities for your child if you go back to the workplace?

Caroffee · 21/10/2022 23:48

Divorce him now. You know you should have done it 25 years ago but late than never and at least you got your two kids out of it. I cannot fathom your thinking btw. You were 30 twenty-five years ago and therefore still young enough to meet someone else and have children with them. But you can't change your past, only your future. Lots of people leave unhappy relationships in their 50s, 60s and 70s these days. It's either that or br unhappy and resentful for the rest of your life.

Condescendingtwats · 21/10/2022 23:53

why are you a passenger in your own life?

even now every move/life choice you make is centred around whatever decision he makes. Despite him not considering you in his thought processes.

Forget the past. Take control of your own life.

ramabanana · 21/10/2022 23:55

As you said you could have another 40 years left, do you really want to spend it with this selfish man? I think it's time you consider putting yourself first and LTB

TherapistInATabard · 21/10/2022 23:57

He sounds like an absolute shit, I am sorry.

EmmaH2022 · 21/10/2022 23:57

OP "We don’t have enough savings and pensions to live on for the next (possibly) 40 years even if we didn’t have a disabled child"

are you fully aware of the family finances? Seems odd that he plans to retire. Has he put money aside and you don't know?

Jessiesthedog · 22/10/2022 00:00

Leave him ? I would probably smother him in his sleep, an absolute piece of shit. How do intelligent women end up with such absolute pigs

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 22/10/2022 00:19

Blimey. I dont think Id have stuck with him this long! He sounds really nasty and selfish.

Can you start making plans to divorce him OP? I wouldnt want to stay with someone like that another 40!years!

Can you also look and see if you can still go back to your old career and apply for similar jobs to those you were offered 8!years ago?

Obbydoo · 22/10/2022 02:02

My mum always said the same, i.e. that my dad didn't want her to work. My dad wholeheartedly disagreed and said he never said that. They got divorced and funnily enough my mum never got a job after they split up either (she was mid 40's at the time). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out she'd been blaming him for years to cover her own lack of ambition/laziness (take your pick of which one!)

You're following a similar pattern, blaming your husband but now you have the chance to work you suddenly don't want to. Hmmm! You are your own person, if you had wanted to work, you could have worked but you personally chose not to and have sponged off him for years. We don't live in the 1920's, we are no longer beholden to men. It was your decision, not his. Stop kidding yourself and making excuses, time to get a grip and, more importantly, get a job. Whether that's married to him or separated from him, that's by the by. Get a job.

stillvicarinatutu · 22/10/2022 02:10

My god this site has really hit new depths with the nasty fuckers .

Op - seek advice from a
Divorce lawyer asap and find out what you would be entitled to .

Yku may not have to work or you might be able to get something part time - but I'd leave either way . You have put yourself last for too long - live . Get out and live .

user1477249785 · 22/10/2022 02:13

Obbydoo · 22/10/2022 02:02

My mum always said the same, i.e. that my dad didn't want her to work. My dad wholeheartedly disagreed and said he never said that. They got divorced and funnily enough my mum never got a job after they split up either (she was mid 40's at the time). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out she'd been blaming him for years to cover her own lack of ambition/laziness (take your pick of which one!)

You're following a similar pattern, blaming your husband but now you have the chance to work you suddenly don't want to. Hmmm! You are your own person, if you had wanted to work, you could have worked but you personally chose not to and have sponged off him for years. We don't live in the 1920's, we are no longer beholden to men. It was your decision, not his. Stop kidding yourself and making excuses, time to get a grip and, more importantly, get a job. Whether that's married to him or separated from him, that's by the by. Get a job.

You do realise though that it is much harder to get a job in your 40s and 50s after years out of the workforce tha it is in your 20s and 30s...?

DeeCeeCherry · 22/10/2022 02:51

God, what a pain in the backside. I'd rather have teeth pulled than go into my elder years with a horrible man. Well you've had good advice here so, good luck whatever you decide to do about this waste of space man

nowwhatnext · 22/10/2022 03:07

This is already helpful. Obydoo and DeeCeeCherry have particularly captured some of my darkest fears.

On the one hand, isn't it possibly true it was just easier for me to give up? I mean we/I had more than a decade of terribly bad years trying to get children (think 8 pregnancies, all with medical help, followed by a long interval of no pregnancies even with medical help, 2 DC, one disabled) so it was helpful then that he wanted to be the old-fashioned main wage earner, right?

And yet on the other hand, can I really face retirement with this man who now blames me?

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DeeCeeCherry · 22/10/2022 03:21

OP maybe dont think too much on the past - it's done. Your here & now, and your future, are what matters. You'd be better off without him, I think you know that, and that's why you're here. It's hard to leave a marriage. But it can be harder and harsher to stay, where the further years of your life will be impacted miserably. There is nothing more precious than peace of mind and stability, and he is offering you neither of those.

You're in your 50s and have a man telling you to go out to work, so he can sit around? No. Honestly you're a kind woman as this man needed to get the boot years ago

Good luck whatever you decide to do. Whilst deciding, picture yourself out there working for years, followed by spending your retirement with him....years and years

LicoricePizza · 22/10/2022 03:31

LTB. Good luck 🍀

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 22/10/2022 03:34

What a cunt. He's wel and truly fucked you over.

I know you didn't want an ltb, but ltb.