General Election Now

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Truss has resigned, it is undemocratic to have another unelected Prime Minister.

AIBU to say We need a general election now?

I disagree, the Tories need to own their mess.
They don’t get to pass brexit from pillar to post, drag their heels on the energy crisis while they have a vanity leadership election, all but decimate the economy due to their ridiculous budget putting interest rates up massively overnight and then walk into the sunset and blame labour for the next 5 years.

I agree, what angers me most about all these leaders is they bring brand new manifestos to the table. I wouldn’t mind so much if the new leaders had to carry out the work proposed in the manifesto at the latest election but the fact the leaders launch brand new manifestos to only be voted in by a tony minority of the population is what annoys me!

Dream on.

Pleased she has gone though. I wonder if it will be Sunak?

I totally agree. We are real people suffering now because of government policies.

The best thing the stories could do is to call a GE because with the world economic situation as it is Labour would be landed with so much mess that they would soon be the party everyone hated.

Brown oversaw the great financial crash and bailed out the banks at a huge cost. Lizzie's contribution to financial carnage is nothing compared to brown's.

You think people wouldn’t remember who’s made the mess? Seriously?

Bollocks. The 2008 crash was global. If Brown hadn’t bailed the banks out the country would have gone bankrupt.

The poster is right , the public has short memories, hence why in two head when this is fixed they will love the tories

There wasn’t one when Blair handed over to Brown.

Completely agree I'm fed up of this joke of a party now enough is enough put it back out for the public to vote who they want to lead them now.
I want the tories out now they have truly screwed up so much for working class allowed the rich to keep getting rich giving hand outs to pals not anymore.

No, it's about the calls for a GE, that's what this thread is about.

You can't complain about it not being democratic. This is how our political system works, we have voted in the party, that party chooses its leader. If you want the system changed then you need to
do something about it, not complain it's not democratic

Whilst I agree there should be a GE. She is not unelected. That’s not how our political system works, we’re not in the US. She was elected by her constituents to represent her and by her party to lead them. By all means campaign for electoral reform, but no one bar the constituency of the party leader, gets to vote for the PM.

And I didn't think there should be one when BJ conceded to Truss.

You think people wouldn’t remember who’s made the mess? Seriously?

The phrase "a week is a long time is in politics" for a reason.

Most people think 3 day week was Labour rather than under a conservative government - so people memories aren't reliable.

I think the Tory will be punished at polls when we get there - as John Major government was but they have two years to change things - and they won't be in a rush to get there and they know this.

We have a terrible time coming because of the Tories and their voters. This winter will see an NHS in crisis ( did you know the Tories just cut med school places by 25%). Strikes in loads of sectors, and people, quite literally, freezing and starving to death. If we have a GE now, that will all still happen, just under a Labour government, the ship is too big to turn around quickly.

Plenty of Tory MPs and party members will also have made this calculation. If the have a GE and get out quick, the Tory shitshow, can be blamed on Labour. Can you imagine the right-wing press headlines come the election after that. So much damage from the past, that happened under previous Tory governments is falsely remembered by a great many people, as having happened under Labour already.

I voted YABU, not because I don’t want a GE, but because your reasoning is unsound.

We do not vote for a PM, we vote for a party. The party chooses its structure.

That said, the Tory party is in chaos, it is not united and therefore not capable of forming a stable government. That is a very good reason to have a GE and is the argument we should be pushing.

This is what worries me. You see the lengths certain posters on here will go to to defend tory corruption and ineptitude, the second they're out of power you just know they'll blame every single thing on Labour and pretend they've had no hand in any of it.

First, let’s get the economy in a more stable position. No one can do or promise anything with the current economic chaos. It’s not possible.

Whilst the tories might get booted now if there was a GE, the GE wouldn’t happen tomorrow so we have weeks if not months of further chaos before anything can be put back on track. Then we start this all over again…… the markets rose when Lizzy resigned so perhaps an MP chosen leader, by people who have some knowledge of the character of the candidate will stabilise the economy? And although it would be great for it NOT to be all about the economy, everything we all want requires a stable economy to provide for it!

Lets celebrate that she’s fucked off and hope we never hear from her again. Or Boris.

We don't even vote for a party. We vote for a representative for the constituency in which we live.

@BeyondsEnergyObsession

I don't disagree with this idea in principal.
'If you kids cant sort yourselves out I'm taking the toy away. Sort yourselves and come back to me in the Spring & we'll see where you're at'

unfortunately, it was a) cause riots & b) KCIII would have no idea where to
start!!

Why would turkeys vote for Christmas?

Wonder if Truss will make the 60 days in office needed for lifetime pension of £115000.

@goinback

try reading at least the OP.

Technically yes, but the party is detailed on the ballot for a reason, it tells you which manifesto the candidate stands on and what they stand for. If you are voting for a party candidate, you are voting for that party by default.