General Election Now

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Truss has resigned, it is undemocratic to have another unelected Prime Minister.

AIBU to say We need a general election now?

I do agree with you but who is the stable government you talk of? Labour? My family are staunch conservatives - we would not vote Labour. I think a lot of people like us would vote Liberal but then you risk a hung parliament. What a mess!

Yep. Because the country voted in the party, not simply the person at the head.

Completely agree. The Tories have had enough chances.

There won’t be. Why would you launch a competition when you don’t have to (and only you have the power to), when you know you’re going to badly lose?

So who would that be then?

I'm hoping that people will vote more wisely next time anyway, whenever the next GE is. I will laugh out loud if Boris gets paraded back in like the prodigal son, which is a rumor atm.

Absolutely - it's insulting to the concept of democracy not to go back to the people at this point. It's important to shout about it because OF COURSE it's the last things the tories want to do with current polling...

I think many people forget that, so caught up in American style politics then shouting that they didn't vote for somebody specific!

A GE now would cause that over used word of the week - chaos! Election points are booked, schools, halls etc etc. It isn't as simple as wanting one!

someone Should call a general strike.

obv the tories have fucked us all so bad that it would be tricky for people to attend.

they have destroyed this country. Lol at comment about Brown. Yeah coz the situ is so similar.

nhs broken
brexit cutting growth and travel options for our children
schools without funding.
no green policies that will make any difference
Sewage on the beaches
town centres decimated
austerity to blame for 330 k excess deaths.
given our financial services away to Madrid and Frankfurt (I know, I work there).
no one can afford to buy a house on regular wages
childcare costs
decriminalisation of rape and sexual assault
falling growth
10 % inflation

anything positive they have achieved?
ok I will let you have Covid vaccines tho that was the NHS.
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Rich people got richer. But only the really rich.

those Tory voters must be so very proud

The electorate votes for a Party. Each Party gets to elect their own leader. Nothing undemocratic about it. The current situation being a complete shitshow is another matter entirely.

Brown didn't quit after six weeks and decimating the economy within that time.

Honestly, I'm backing Charles III at this point. Nice short absolute reign, long enough to fix democracy and then revert back to a parliament when he dies. Perhaps with a discussion about whether monarchy is the way forward in future. Best of both worlds?

someone Should call a general strike

The laws on strikes brought in by Margaret Thatcher make that almost impossible to do legally.

The PM selected by the Tory party did indeed not outlast that lettuce. There should be a GE.

Both statements are true. You elect a local MP who also gets given your trust to choose the leader of the party they belong to (unless you’re also a signed up member of that party in which case you get your own vote. Not this time though).

Did you complain when Brown became leader or is that okay because it was Labour?
@IhateHermioneGranger No but they didn't sack their leader numerous times in a few months.
What remaining tories want is to get Sunak in and hopefully see some degree of economic stability so they can win another GE. I don't doubt that they think they can blag their way through all this and that the electorate are naive thick enough to forget....

True but he wasn't elected which is what I was getting at.

Hope not because if labour get in all we will have is endless bitching out what the tories have left behind this will be there get out of jail card for everything ( TBF standard with every new government ).

I've always had fairly republican tendencies, but honestly this seems preferable somehow at this point

@rwalker irony surely .😂

Time for Boris to rise from the ashes. He’s the only one who can save the Tory party now.

I think if the Tory's get a new leader in - and then find they can't govern as party discipline is so shot then I think they'll have little choice but to call one - even if it means they lose power.

However I think they will ride out current calls for one - because ironically polls are so bad they'd face annihilation and have nothing to build back from.

I seriously doubt next government will go two years they have left - but I don't think we'll get a general election before the end of the year.

For all those reminding us that we have a parliamentary not presidency, the Tory party was elected on a manifesto that was being so totally changed beyond all recognition to be undemocratic. Sure the tories can changed their policies and approach as they wish, but surely not without a public mandate. Its the scale of change that’s important when considering calls for GE, let alone the shambles.

I can accept one Prime Minister not elected by the public, but this is two! That is totally unprecedented and totally ridiculous.

Conservatives complained loudly at the time about Brown not being elected by the public.
But this is two Prime Ministers unelected by the public. It is ridiculous.