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To think Jo Frost (Supernanny) was wrong to post inflammatory comments

376 replies

Margot78 · 14/10/2022 22:23

Jo Frost shared this on her FB page. I’m
not sure why, I was quite baffled by it. Surely she knows that parents of children with asd/adhd/ocd will be offended at the suggestion that they are chasing a label for their child? Not sure what she was trying to achieve with this!

To think Jo Frost (Supernanny) was wrong to post inflammatory comments
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ICantThinkOfOne13 · 14/10/2022 22:28

I don't think that was her intent though 🤷‍♀️
I think she was saying labelling as naughty, and now labelling as ADHD, ADD etc are both as bad as each other.. the latter without a formal diagnosis.

babysharksb1tch · 14/10/2022 22:34

I think times have moved on from her style of supernannying. When we know better we do better. It's widely known that behaviour is communication. We know more about neurodiversity. We are getting better at diagnosing it and putting support in place.

As a teacher of 15 years I've seen the shift from labelling a child as naughty to wanting to understand the problems behind their behavioural presentation.

As a mum to an autistic little boy I find her comments inflammatory, unnecessary and dickish.

VladmirsPoutine · 14/10/2022 22:36

Her business model is now largely redundant.

User478 · 14/10/2022 22:36

I think it's unasseptible

BoardLikeAMirror · 14/10/2022 22:37

Goady, attention-seeking nonsense from Jo Frost. Children can be naughty. Children can be neurodivergent. The two are neither mutually exclusive nor mutually dependent.

FatEaredFuck · 14/10/2022 22:38

User478 · 14/10/2022 22:36

I think it's unasseptible

Grin

I think that post is absolutely disgusting and the fact it's still up shows she's incapable of growth - unlike all the "naughty" kids she worked with.

babysharksb1tch · 14/10/2022 22:39

ICantThinkOfOne13 · 14/10/2022 22:28

I don't think that was her intent though 🤷‍♀️
I think she was saying labelling as naughty, and now labelling as ADHD, ADD etc are both as bad as each other.. the latter without a formal diagnosis.

Don't you?

Who in their right mind wants their child's brain processing labelled with "any ABCD"?

Further- has Jo Frost any clue how hard it is to seek a diagnosis for a child? This is clearly a woman who knows nothing about how the system works.

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/10/2022 22:39

She’s a muppet. I wouldn’t let her train a pet.

XelaM · 14/10/2022 22:39

I think she's right 🤷‍♀️

SeasonsHeatings · 14/10/2022 22:39

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pinkolu · 14/10/2022 22:40

User478 · 14/10/2022 22:36

I think it's unasseptible

😂😂😂

babysharksb1tch · 14/10/2022 22:40

XelaM · 14/10/2022 22:39

I think she's right 🤷‍♀️

Is your opinion informed? Care to share why?

Sparklingbrook · 14/10/2022 22:41

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Nasty thing to say.

pinkolu · 14/10/2022 22:41

How can you compare the label "naughty" to the labels for adhd/add etc - obviously "naughty" is negative and deliberate

Getting a medical diagnosis to help your child is hardly giving them a negative label

SeasonsHeatings · 14/10/2022 22:42

Label " our children"? she doesn't have any!

pinkolu · 14/10/2022 22:42

@Sparklingbrook not as nasty as her post

WTF475878237NC · 14/10/2022 22:42

Our paed team is full of parents of 4-8 year olds with relationship-based (attachment) difficulties being expressed through behaviour the parents find challenging. Often the parents are seeking a diagnosis because they truly believe that will solve the issues. It comes as a massive blow and not a relief to many to learn that their child is not neurodiverse but instead needs developmentally appropriate nurturing (ie attuned parenting). It's often families who haven't had the best start and who have complex needs going back generations. The children we see more than those we diagnose are neither neurodiverse nor naughty. They simply haven't had parenting that met their very typical needs.

Supernanny's style of expressing herself seems unnecessarily inflammatory I agree.

PersonaNonGarter · 14/10/2022 22:42

Her point was an obsession with labels.

Thegreenballoon · 14/10/2022 22:43

She’s ghastly and offensive. I’ve never liked her methods and I like them even less now I have a neurodiverse child. And I hate that she’s made a her living from putting children with behavioural issues on TV for other people to gawp at (and yes I judge the parents too).

Romeoalpha · 14/10/2022 22:43

I kind of agree with her to be honest.

ODD is a tremendously unhelpful and rather dubious ‘diagnosis’.

As for ADD and ADHD, yes there is a place for diagnosis…. by a doctor.

It’s amazing the amount of parents decide for themselves that their child has ADHD and then sets out on an epic battle to get the diagnosis. It seems not to occur to them that maybe their child does not actually have ADHD, is a behaviour / boundaries issue. And the parent would rather have their child on medication than admit that the change needs to happen with them, not their child.

IncessantNameChanger · 14/10/2022 22:43

Oh can she come and cure my kids ASD with her infallible knowledge? Their paediatrician would be delighted. Makes having a doctorate in medicine a bit of joke doesn't it? Silly Drs with their labels. All the need is the naughty step.

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Sparklingbrook · 14/10/2022 22:43

pinkolu · 14/10/2022 22:42

@Sparklingbrook not as nasty as her post

I disagree. Saying someone looks like a goblin is horrible and unnecessary.

AstroAl · 14/10/2022 22:45

I want to banish that top she is wearing.

YellowTreeHouse · 14/10/2022 22:45

She’s right. People are desperate for an excuse for their child’s naughtiness. It then absolves them of any responsibility.

NurseryNurse10 · 14/10/2022 22:45

@Romeoalpha I agree with you.