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To wonder why some people don't work full-time?

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donniedarko89 · 13/10/2022 17:16

I was part-time myself while DD was very young as I wanted to spend time with her. I know many mums however who have stayed part time even after the kids go to school. They only work 2 or 3 days a week. The thing is, they're not loaded, on the contrary they keep complaining that finances are tight and they can't afford stuff - then why not increase your work days (they could all easily do it)? Some of them even have a cleaner. No hobbies on the side either. It genuinely puzzles me!

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AntlerRose · 13/10/2022 21:08

For the record i would love my dh to stop work altogether again, or work part time.
I think it would be be brilliant if a 30 hour week was standard to be honest.

Nat6999 · 13/10/2022 21:08

I worked P/T because I had a disabled husband & also because due to tax credits I was better off working P/T than full time.

Topgub · 13/10/2022 21:09

The utter sexism and link between women working part time/not at all and their ohs earning so much more than them just whizzing over heads eh?

suddenlysore · 13/10/2022 21:09

Shouldn't it be that 'a parent' was part time. It doesn't have to be mum.

no because it was my mum

I think you're missing the point somewhat.

facefit · 13/10/2022 21:10

Topgub · 13/10/2022 17:20

Loads of reasons I guess

Including that women are conditioned to think that mums shouldn't really have to work

And if they do it should be as little as possible while men should work as much as possible

What

kateandme · 13/10/2022 21:11

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wrong In every way.no conditioning.I said it in this way because off is it was my mum.

outtheshowernow · 13/10/2022 21:11

Because they don't want to
Because they like being at home
Because money isn't everything

awomanofthecuntytype · 13/10/2022 21:11

I made the decision to go back FT when DD started school as I can be more comfortable with expenses. Also, I always resented the perceived power dynamic of DH working FT and me not. I like being fully independent and paying for my things

In that case, @Eurydice84, I don't know why you are giving any thought to what other people do. I wouldn't have wanted to work at all while my DC were at school; you had your reasons to do the opposite. I wouldn't question why another mother chose to work, so I don't see why you're giving any headspace to what other women do. In my now extensive experience, everyone just does what they think is best for their own family set-up, and it's not anyone else's business to question it.

FlamencoDance · 13/10/2022 21:12

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OriginalUsername3 · 13/10/2022 21:14

Not everyone can, or wants to. Just like most of us could easily train to run a marathon but don't because we couldn't mentally manage that level of demand.

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Singlebutmarried · 13/10/2022 21:15

DD at secondary.

I went back FT when she was 8 months old. Juggled this with DH working away Mon-fri.

Then dropped to PT when she was in yr 2. DH still working away

Still PT now as I’m home around the time she gets back and DH works long hours.

She also does after school stuff, which if I worked FT I wouldn’t be able to get her to.

Different folks, different strokes.

PuzzledObserver · 13/10/2022 21:16

DH and I have no children.

I have mostly worked FT, but did have a period of 3.5 years during which I didn’t work at all for a bit, then worked PT alongside studying PT for 2 years, then studied FT for a year before returning to FT work in a new career.

DH had a similar pattern - mixed PT work and study while retraining, then FT in the new career for 14 years, but then 4 years of PT.

Then we both retired - him at 61, me at 57. Because life is about more than work and we can manage it financially. We do lots of things which interest us, we do a bit of volunteering and we enjoy our lives.

DH would have carried on longer, but our house was provided with my job, and I was repeatedly struggling with depression and anxiety, for which job stress was the catalyst. If I had been enjoying work, or even coping, I would have carried on.

853ax · 13/10/2022 21:16

Sometimes it better to be tight on money than tight on time.
Having a day or two off during week takes time pressure off family's.

WombatChocolate · 13/10/2022 21:18

Isn’t this all quite simply solved really be people talking about what is possible and what each want out of life.

All this angst about one person being dissatisfied…well bloody well say so and have a discussion about how your family life can be different.

The only thing I’d say, is make sure you have a detailed and thorough conversation and you gather information about the immediate, medium term and longer term implications of choices you make. The implications for being part time with small children don’t just stop there but can have implications for future career, pension, ability to manage independently if you have to in future. Likewise, Choices families make might have an impact on promotion prospects of the other partner, health implications, options for both to retire early or not, to support other family members in future, to move house……the list goes on. You cannot account for every possibility, but people should think carefully and into the future too.

The reality is that people have different situations and even in the same situation people make different choices. Some women want to work full time and some want to work part time. The same goes for men. Some get a huge kick out of work and moving ahead with their career and others don’t. Some love spending time with little kids and others are bored to tears by it. Some feel the need to split all tasks, including earning money equally and others are happy to share the load with one person doing more earning and the other doing other stuff.

People often used to talk about women not having choices. Some on this thread are suggesting men don’t have choices. Societal ‘norms’ about what men and women do, no doubt feed into what more women and more men do. Certainly more part timers are women and more men work full time. Many are happy with that arrangement and those who aren’t happy with whatever situation they find themselves in need to talk about it and take action to change things if they aren’t.

But anyone suggesting that a particular way is wrong, is just lacking empathy and an appreciation that people have different circumstances and make different choices. Other people might do or not do what you do. We all need to find ways to live and to generate the finances we need and to support our families at the stage they are. There can be many ways to skin a cat and pointing th finger and judging others isn’t helpful. Do what works for you. Discuss, discuss, work together to find short and medium term solutions and make plans and have goals that can be achieved together. That’s all.

IsTheOffDutyDoneYet · 13/10/2022 21:18

I imagine because it fits in with them and works for them, even if things are tight financially. And probably for a whole other host of reasons.

I work full time in the community but have recently switched to long days. My DC are 9, 11 and 14. Working 5 days a week (or 6 if it was my weekend to work) didn’t really work for me. Now I do 4 days one week and 3 days the next. It’s 8am until 8pm so it’s still full on, but on the 3 day weeks especially I get to spend more time with the children. I need to work full time because we need the money, but if I could drop hours I would. The long days are just as hard really but this is my compromise at the moment.

Iamthewombat · 13/10/2022 21:19

Q2C4 · 13/10/2022 21:02

All the posters saying that they couldn't fit in all the domestic chores whilst working full time... how do men seem to manage it then? My concern is that if women work part time, it then means they are expected to do the bulk of the domestic chores at the cost of their finances and career progression.

Yes, and they will defend this disadvantageous position to the death. Because their husband or partner would never leave them, or screw them over, would he? Or take advantage of his wife working part time to swerve doing his share of the housework or child work. Or become controlling with money, or anything like that.

For the posters saying, “I’d need to spend most of my salary on childcare so that’s why I don’t work, or only work part time”, the reason for continuing to work full time is that you continue to build up pension provision, plus you keep your hand in and stand a much better chance of advancing your career.

Dunnoburt · 13/10/2022 21:19

I have a 6 year old and work part time....... I'm sure my full time colleagues have the same opinion as you do about people like me........ they know fuck all about my personal life and have no right to comment.

ChangeOver22 · 13/10/2022 21:19

Topgub · 13/10/2022 20:48

@ChangeOver22

Really?!

C'mon!

The op isn't anywhere near as judgemental as your post

Asking why people who claim to be short if money don't work full time isn't anything like asking why people don't care about their children enough

Aren’t they one and the same thing?

Choices, choices… Money or love/time with your kids.

cacchidevilfruit · 13/10/2022 21:20

rattlemehearties · 13/10/2022 17:41

I think moaning about not being able to afford clubs is also for your benefit, i.e. rather than admitting she just wants to spend time with her children after school, claiming it's because of finances is more socially acceptable these days

I agree with you. Many people use the excuse of costing too much because it seems somehow kinder than actually giving the true reason which may be that actually they prioritise different things or simply don't want to do something. Not being able to do something due to cost is socially acceptable, whereas saying you'd rather have more time to chat with kids or cook from scratch often makes others feel defensive, as if you are judging them. If you prefer to chill out rather than have extra money is seen as alternative in today's world.

PinkSyCo · 13/10/2022 21:20

It genuinely puzzles me when parents chose to work all the hours God sends rather than spend time with their kids, but it takes all sorts I suppose.

winterchills · 13/10/2022 21:20

My reason for this is if I increased my hours I would have to pay for more breakfast and after school club than I am already paying for so wouldn't be much better off and much more stress!

Tadpoll · 13/10/2022 21:24

Bit judgy.

Darbs76 · 13/10/2022 21:24

PinkSyCo · 13/10/2022 21:20

It genuinely puzzles me when parents chose to work all the hours God sends rather than spend time with their kids, but it takes all sorts I suppose.

Erm to meet ends meet? That’s one reason for you to mull over so your not quite as puzzled

Tadpoll · 13/10/2022 21:25

Darbs76 · 13/10/2022 21:24

Erm to meet ends meet? That’s one reason for you to mull over so your not quite as puzzled

But many people work full time when they don’t have to. That puzzles me. Why have kids if you don’t want to spend time with them?

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