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To wonder why some people don't work full-time?

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donniedarko89 · 13/10/2022 17:16

I was part-time myself while DD was very young as I wanted to spend time with her. I know many mums however who have stayed part time even after the kids go to school. They only work 2 or 3 days a week. The thing is, they're not loaded, on the contrary they keep complaining that finances are tight and they can't afford stuff - then why not increase your work days (they could all easily do it)? Some of them even have a cleaner. No hobbies on the side either. It genuinely puzzles me!

OP posts:
mam0918 · 13/10/2022 19:46

I would rather be poor and free than rich and a slave.

Also if I worked full time my entire paycheck would go straight to childcare so whats the point... I would be paying someone else to raise the kid I have because I wanted to raise them.

Justwanttobebythesea · 13/10/2022 19:47

I'm part time and not facilitated by my husband but my choice to generate passive income 15 years ago when working FT in the financial services as I was stressed and unfulfilled by FS and did not want to be a slave to it until I retired due to the high salaries. I don't earn what I use to but I'm in a job I love and can stop without guilt at 5pm 3 days a week. I get rewarded in 2 days a week time off to do what I want now the children are older and that has a much higher price to me than working for 2 days.

Topgub · 13/10/2022 19:48

@AntlerRose

I dont think that really answers the questions

It seems lots of women are happy to let their ohs work full time and see less of their kids etc as long as they don't have to.

Goldbar · 13/10/2022 19:48

Topgub · 13/10/2022 19:42

@Goldbar

Then why aggressive to that deal?

I dont/wouldn't

I don't imagine the terms are made clear from the outset 😄. "Why don't I go part-time/be a SAHD and you can work full-time but still do all the organising and most of the grunt work too, while I go cycling on the weekend to unwind from a hard week at home?" I don't imagine the conversation goes like that, but there does seem to be a gulf in terms of what men and women perceive as a fair contribution to family life.

lovelilies · 13/10/2022 19:48

I work 18 hours a week.
We're not well off. I like to be able to pick up my DC every day and walk home together, cook food and heck- I enjoy the days when they're at school and I can sit and knit all day, or do admin/shopping/ go for a run/ see a friend.

Life is too short to rush around like a blue arsed fly then die.

Schoolchoicesucks · 13/10/2022 19:50

The same people who complain money is tight and work part time and have a cleaner?

Yes that does sound odd.

I work part time. Currently 30 hours in 4 days. Considering switching to 30 hours over 5 days. Shorter days will allow me to support dc with homework more. Don't have a cleaner. Don't want to work more hours but if money was tight would do so.

Topgub · 13/10/2022 19:51

@Goldbar

There certainly does

Its not compulsory though.

No one has to put up with it.

Fairislefandango · 13/10/2022 19:51

Can I ask a genuine question of all the pet timers on here (almost all at least)
Why is it you who is part time to facilitate family life and not your husband/partner?

I've just gone back to full time (my dc are teenagers) but I was part time for years. Me rather than dh because we both agreed it was best while the dc were still babies, I was breastfeeding etc. By the time dc were not babies dh had got promoted and was earning considerably more than I would have been full time, so it was better for him to be earning a ft wage. Plus he was always more ambitious for promotion than me. I loved being part time. It was hard for me to get a ft job years later though, because of lack of recent ft experience. I've just started my new ft job and am earning more than I ever have before though. And slightly more than dh (who has stepped down a bit).

tictoc76 · 13/10/2022 19:53

I would love to work part time. I would actually go to the gym or do some exercise, get all the boring weekend cleaning done so my weekend is free for family time, take the time to enjoy cooking, maybe see some friends, actually make a few of the school plays that are always during working hours.

I can dream

Pumpkinspiceandallthingsnice · 13/10/2022 19:54

@user1497787065 I agree it's so weird. What is the obsession with sticking your nose into other peoples business anyway? What does it matter to anyone else how much other people work?

FYI I work part time for a few reasons. Lack of suitable childcare options mainly but also, ill health, wanting to be involved in day to day school life, the dcs after school hobbies, helping out with disabled parents, keeping on top of housework to free up more family time at the weekend.

As for my poor, put upon husband. We've had numerous discussions about our dc, our jobs, our finances. He has the choice to go part time and for me to increase and he has never ever wanted to. He wants to work as much as possible (while he can) in his words and wind down later on in life. I will probably more than likely keep on working once he's retired. He also gets the perks of not having to do much housework at all, not having to worry about rushing back to collect the dc and so on.

As for moaning about the cost of living, well I do this regularly at work simply to join in the conversation. In reality we don't do too badly but I'm hardly going to stand and work and brag about money. Also happy to sacrifice extra money to have more time.

WombatChocolate · 13/10/2022 19:55

Topgub, yes my OH works part time.
At various points we’ve both worked full time, one of part time and now both part time.

We’ve done what we could afford and what worked best for different stages of life. Same will be case with retirement. We don’t have any sense we both have to do exactly the same and neither feels that if one is working and other isn’t, that the situation is unfair. We’re a unit and the finances and effort are for both of us and the whole family.

Fortunately, neither of us has been exploited by the other, taken advantage of and we don’t have any particular gender stereo-types that say one must work and other not etc. So we don’t have ‘baggage’ that stops us doing what works at the time for us. Sometimes we’ve had limited financial flexibility and both worked full time. Other times there has been more and we have decided based on the jobs and also needs of childcare, journeys to work, pay….and the stuff that feeds into the equation. I’d have thought most people feed all those things into their thought process or equation to decide what’s possible and works best.

The only time I see a problem is when one person doesn’t like the arrangement or feels pressured into something they don’t want. If youre thinking of what might be the more typical gender roles, some women feel they can’t work full time and want to, and some men feel burdened by working full time and being main or sole breadwinner. Those aren’t good. But equally, those with the typical part timer being the woman, often find it works well for both parties. When it’s reversed, it can work well too.

Most approaches don’t have to last forever and the needs of families change. The positive if part time over stopping work altogether is you still have a job and possibly a career depending on what you do. You can choose one pattern for your family and often it can be changed a couple of years later, if one or both don’t like it or as needs of the family change.

Josephinehetty · 13/10/2022 19:56

...because you end up having to have time off for children's sickness, dentists, multiple apts and other domestic arrangements - plus you need less childcare in the holidays. Also, its sometimes nice to have done all the shopping/household admin, before your children get home.

Facecream · 13/10/2022 19:56

And the award for utter shite Daily Mail “genuine” a woman took to Mumsnet to ask.. of the day goes to OP

ZenNudist · 13/10/2022 19:58

I have an 8yo so the one day I don't work allows me to pick him up and talk to the teacher. It would be worth a lot of money to work one more day a week but I have been4 days for so long I put up with the longer hours the other days of the week and don't notice the pay cut as I get a bit of time and space to myself. I think of it as taking early retirement one day a week !😃

Annoyed200722 · 13/10/2022 20:01

I worked full-time for three months recently (I have primary aged children). The reasons for switching to part-time we're:

  • I earn as much working three days as I would full-time. DH can drop/collect the kids twice a week. We also need dog care for two days a week. Added to the huge holiday childcare full-time requires, we are e just as well off.
  • we were all tired and stressed. Wrap-around care meant a 9.5 hour day for the kids which was just too much.
  • life-style. DH and I spent all evening doing jobs round the house, getting dinner etc, so we spent little time with the DC, whose school work started to suffer. We were also doing jobs, running errands at the weekend. I now do that on my two days and we get to enjoy time together.
FindingMyself1999 · 13/10/2022 20:01

Topgub · 13/10/2022 19:48

@AntlerRose

I dont think that really answers the questions

It seems lots of women are happy to let their ohs work full time and see less of their kids etc as long as they don't have to.

I run my own business so prob end up working FT but I can flex more unlike my DH who is office based.

I’d say he prefers as we both do that I’m at home with the kids rather than them going into wraparound etc

stayathomer · 13/10/2022 20:02

Everyone complains about the cost of living, it’s like the weather as it effects everyone in one way or another. I know a number of young child free people who are 4 days a week- they were just wrecked with the grind. Also I work a very very physically demanding retail job and when my back went I realised the strain I was putting it under. It’s not the reason I went pt but my body is working better since. One or two help care for relatives and need that extra day. I think pt is the way forward personally, I know a few couples where both work 4 day weeks and they’re new people now.

SimonaRazowska · 13/10/2022 20:04

So OP, how do you and your partner manage holidays, child sick days, inset days, school events? Just curious as to us this would have been impossible if we both worked full time

Kamia · 13/10/2022 20:05

Working full time does not necessarily mean more money for working parents. The childcare payments will double they might have to pay more for public transport or running a car. Also maybe they just want to be home and be more present for the children. They might enjoy going with their child's class to school trips, assemblies, school meeting, the pta.

Blueblell · 13/10/2022 20:06

Some people work out that they will struggle financially full time and not have time to bring their kids up or they can struggle financially and have time to bring their kids up. Lots of people work very hard full time on better salaries and decide that the extra money is worth the time not spent with the kids as they can benefit their children in other ways. It is basically a time cost analysis depending on your actual circumstances. Neither is wrong in my opinion.

Goldbar · 13/10/2022 20:07

Topgub · 13/10/2022 19:51

@Goldbar

There certainly does

Its not compulsory though.

No one has to put up with it.

No, but the disparity exists and combating it is an extra chore for women. If actually, working full-time is just the start of it and then you're going to be doing school/nursery drop-offs, making packed lunches, doing the morning routine, doing all the school stuff, cooking, cleaning, doing pick-up or organising childcare, supervising homework, washing sports kit, cooking dinner, organising extracurricular activities, doing most of the cleaning... it's not a very attractive prospect and working part-time might be a way to make things more manageable.

Yes, of course the "second shift" should be split equally but the reality is that this rarely happens.

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Topgub · 13/10/2022 20:14

@Goldbar

Yes. It should be.

If women would rather work part time than make their ohs do their share then that is obviously up to them

Can't then moan about the disparity though.

Downdaysoon · 13/10/2022 20:14

RJnomore1 · 13/10/2022 19:36

Can I ask a genuine question of all the pet timers on here (almost all at least)
Why is it you who is part time to facilitate family life and not your husband/partner?

DH earns a lot more than I do so it makes sense for our family finances for him to stay full time.

Irridescantshimmmer · 13/10/2022 20:17

...or because they want to see thier children grow up.

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