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AIBU?

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To have mixed feelings about Miranda Hughes

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DappledYork · 05/10/2022 11:03

She worked for the NHS, now works for a private company and on the Jeremy Vine television show declared that Conservative voters shouldn't be resuscitated

It's all over the news and she may lose her current job.

I understand that she was frustrated as a nurse but , on the other hand, my parents vote Conservative and I wouldn't like to think that a nurse might decide not to help them because of their political views.

It has made me think that for her to voice that thought publicly, she must know that she's not the only one with those views and it worries me,.

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AnnaMagnani · 05/10/2022 11:06

I think her point would be better as 'You can't vote Tory and moan about the NHS' as basically those voters have voted for:
not enough GPs
collapse of social care
staff leaving in droves as they are underpaid and unappreciated

And many more

PestorPeston · 05/10/2022 11:10

She didn't say that they shouldn't be resuscitated, she said they didn't deserve to be.

Luckily the NHS treats everyone without prejudice. So smokers get treated for lung cancer, lifestyle induced diabetes is treated and so are Tories.

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DappledYork · 05/10/2022 11:15

I don't think there is much difference when you add the word Deserve. I still don't like to think of my parents being reluctantly resuscitated because the caregiver has judged them and doesn't think they deserve it. They're not Nazis for God's Sake!

If she felt ok to say that on TV, she must know that a lot of nurses feel the same. It's worrying.

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Topgub · 05/10/2022 11:17

Of course its not worrying

For gods sake.

Do you genuinely think a health care professional would let how a person votes affect their treatment?

How would they even know the pts politics?

Snufkinhastherightidea · 05/10/2022 11:19

What’s really worrying is that soon there won’t be any nurses left to resuscitate, anyone regardless of their political leanings.

Blossomtoes · 05/10/2022 11:20

If she felt ok to say that on TV, she must know that a lot of nurses feel the same.

That’s one of the most illogical things on MN this week. She was speaking for herself, not the entire nursing profession.

NightmareSlashDelightful · 05/10/2022 11:21

I think it's more worrying that she's being so soundly monstered across the press for an opinion. 'Women, shut up' again, ain't it.

Midnights · 05/10/2022 11:23

Meh, I don't tell anyone my political voting record when I go into hospital so I hope for enthusiastic resus!

I don't think all nurses think that way, just like I don't think all conservative voters dislike the NHS. She's said it for shock factor surely?

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DappledYork · 05/10/2022 11:25

I just think most of us wouldn't say something so shocking unless we knew there was some support for it.

@Topgub She is a health care professional and she did say it.

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traintraveller · 05/10/2022 11:28

There is no denying that the government is killing off the NHS but what she said in such a public manner was bloody stupid and she deserves to be sacked for it. I'd imagine the NMC will also have something to say. I wouldn't worry about your relatives in hospital, I've never met a nurse that asks a patient how they vote or treats tory voters differently.

Topgub · 05/10/2022 11:28

@DappledYork

Do you have a link for what she actually said?

Saying something in an interview us different to actually doing

You haven't answered how a nurse would know how a pt votes.

WillPowerLite · 05/10/2022 11:31

Chill, ffs. She was exaggerating for effect. Because she's angry about Tory cuts to public health. She is not suggesting killing Tories in hospital.

Cuck00soup · 05/10/2022 11:35

Snufkinhastherightidea · 05/10/2022 11:19

What’s really worrying is that soon there won’t be any nurses left to resuscitate, anyone regardless of their political leanings.

This.

SainteCroissante · 05/10/2022 11:36

It is absolutely okay to have "mixed feelings" about Sally Hughes. Just as it is okay to have "mixed feelings" about parents or other family members that vote in direct opposition to someone's personal beliefs, and to what one deems to be to the detriment of society.

TBH I know nothing about Miranda Hughes, but I can only imagine how deeply frustrated and exasperated people working for the NHS are, as is evidenced by them leaving the service in droves. Built-up frustration can lead to extreme opinions, that's our fallible human nature...

SainteCroissante · 05/10/2022 11:37

Miranda Hughes, obvs, not Sally 😐

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DappledYork · 05/10/2022 11:53

Topgub · 05/10/2022 11:28

@DappledYork

Do you have a link for what she actually said?

Saying something in an interview us different to actually doing

You haven't answered how a nurse would know how a pt votes.

No, I can't link.

However, as you have already commented and I don't suppose you would do that without using the simple technique of Google, you already know what she said!

She could very well know how someone votes if a patient had been in hospital for a few days before taking a turn for the worse. I'm also thinking that if they had a copy of the Daily Mail, that could be taken as "proof" of someone's way of thinking. It often is on this board!

Anyway, if she said it for effect and was exaggerating, as some say then she was pretty insensitive and stupid either way.

I imagine WHEN she was working in the NHS,-she is now working in the private sector-she was frustrated but I still don't think that's an excuse for her remarks.

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Topgub · 05/10/2022 11:55

@DappledYork

No, I don't know what she said. I will Google now though as you seem reluctant to share what she actually said.

We're going from bad to worse.

Now you're accusing nurses of killing people for reading the daily mail?!

Are you actually OK?

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DappledYork · 05/10/2022 11:57

Don't be foolish @Topgub

In future, when links aren't provided-and that is more often the case than not-may I suggest that you do google before jumping in knowing nothing about it.

Your ridiculous hyperbole makes you seem a bit daft. Are you ok?Head Tilt

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AutumnCrow · 05/10/2022 11:59

You know that how you last voted isn't on your hospital notes, right?

Topgub · 05/10/2022 12:00

What hyperbole?

The only article I can find is from the daily mail (natch) which states she said tory voters don't deserve to be resuscitated by the nhs. She then immediately back tracked and said of course she would (presumably resuscitate a tory voter)

How you've leapt from that to nurses wouldn't resuscitate daily mail readers, I'm not sure.

Blossomtoes · 05/10/2022 12:01

Your ridiculous hyperbole makes you seem a bit daft. Are you ok?Head Tilt

Right back at you. Isn’t “head tilt” a bit 2017? You’ll be doing a tinkly little laugh next.

Ponoka7 · 05/10/2022 12:13

Your parents are at risk because the health service that we rely on is massively underfunded and mismanaged. Their care is going to be compromised by the government that they vote for from when they first need medical intervention, be it going to the GP or getting an ambulance. Be alarmed by that. Your parents are the turkeys voting for Christmas.

FlibbertyGiblets · 05/10/2022 12:19

I don't believe that the newspaper left on the patient's bedside table will be the tipping point for whether a nurse chooses to treat that patient or not. You are being a bit silly now.

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2022 12:24

No one at the hospital will know how patients vote. So YABU for pretending thinking this is actually a thing.🙄

orangeisthenewpuce · 05/10/2022 12:29

Ii think she's a horrible person

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