To wonder when the UK government plan to revisit the dangerous dogs act?

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Woman killed by American Bulldogs.

This is just another victim to add to the list of dog fatalities in recent years - yet another American Bulldog.

Britain must have one of the most pathetic dog regulations in the world - only 3 breeds in the list and two of those breeds most people have never heard of.

When will the government do something?? How many more people need to die?

And it’s not just about banning breeds - they need to tighten up the laws in owning dogs in the first place.

Many states in America have tight regulations around many breeds common in the UK including Shar Pei, Rhodesian Ridgebacks, Dobermann and even German shepherds.

AIBU to think Britain needs to wake up to the dangers of irresponsible dog ownership?

Weirdly, if a child runs up to a dog and hurts it or scared it, it's all on the dog and it's owner.

I wouldn't blame the dog or owner in this situation I'd blame my DC. my DC wouldn't do that anyway.

Adults are responsible for teaching the children respect around animals.

A snappy dog who has a reactivate personality shouldn't be out without a lead or muzzle, if this type of dog bit or was aggressive without cause I'd be bloody angry with the owner.

Yeah, that's how my dog looked during owner defence training fgs. He was GS.
I still remember Leonberger getting lose during training. You would not believe how quickly can someone in full body suit run

When it comes to dog controls, have any other countries come up with a workable solution?

It blows my mind the amount of children that run up to my two dogs and try to pat them, grab them, shout how cute they are right in their face 😬

Thankfully they are totally desensitised from the noise of children (I have 2), love attention, and don't spook easy. Despite my intervention when I see it coming it happens alot more with my current 2 than any of my previous.

One of my previous rescue, who would not have liked being rushed, never was on the exact same walk 5 years ago so I wonder what has changed with parenting that all these kids seem to think it's ok.

I've drilled it into my children that you ask before you touch. Why would anyone not teach that to their kids? Parents should educate their kids because whether they like it or not, not all dogs are friendly, but if they are on a lead and rushed by your kid it's not the dogs fault.

Community service could be good deterrent. Fines make it crime just for poor, other sentences can be too much (not when the dog kills someone of course).
You can get fine where my family is for things like not having dog registered, and it's considered criminal negligence if dog injures someone. You are responsible for all damage to objects, animals and people.

We have dog licenses in Northern Ireland, the only part of the UK to have them , but trouble is only responsible owners bother to pay for them so useless really. I think the licences pay for the council dog wardens so actually means that's responsible dog owners paying for the wardens to pick up the strays belonging to the irresponsible.

Saying that, when most kids approach my dog, they ask permission to pet her, which is amazing and is how it should be

I've drilled into my DD from day one that you never touch someone's dog without receiving permission first. She never has. She also knows to let cats come to her, rather than chase them or grab them. Surely that's just basic normal parenting. Why would you want your child to think touching random animals is ok anyway?

That’s just temperament. The problems with fighting dogs (which is virtually anything with ‘bull’ in the name) is that they been bred to be aggressive, AND strong AND NEVER to let go. You can break a pit bulls jaw, which much be horrifically painful, and they hold on. That’s why they kill people.

Dogs aren’t naturally aggressive. Nearly all of what’s perceived as aggression in dogs is defensive because it’s needs are not being met and it’s afraid. People who like dogs with a reputation for being aggressive are almost always the least suitable people to have them, so the problem with temperament which could be improved by breeding, isn’t solved and the problem with individual nature (which could be improved by good care and training) is positively fuelled. I think they should be eradicated. I adore dogs, and have known lovely ones of all breeds, but using dogs as weapons is appalling and just self perpetuating. There is no justification for having dogs that have been bred to kill accessible to anyone, especially not to anyone who thinks they are in any way desirable.

Probably the most stupid comment ive read all year!

5 of them = pack mentality
When one started they all did
Such a sad sad story
Asking for trouble with that many dogs, regardless of the breed

@bloodyplanes If you have to resort to name calling then your point is entirely lost! Any vet on the planet will tell you what I've just said

@ChelseaRobertsofMalibu no they really won't tell me that. Please link the scientific evidence to back your argument up.

Any vet on the planet will tell you what I've just said

I can assure you that they would not.

Exactly! It is common sense and good manners.
I am not a fan of kids, but a bit of my ice cold heart melts when I see a little child gently pet my greyhound.

"It's the owners not the dog"

🙄🤦🏼‍♀️ The same bullshit trotted out by owners of these aggressive breeds. If you feel you know more than TEAMS of expert veterinary PROFESSORS who are consulted with & fully involved with the creation of the Dangerous Dogs list, then you'd better write to them and list your credentials! Quick!!!

It has been proven that certain breeds of dog have aggressive traits within their DNA. This cannot - I repeat, CANNOT be 'trained out' of them.

To give you a good example - Border Collies are the main breed chosen for Shepherding Sheep, yes? Why do you think that is? Because as a breed they have the necessary traits within their DNA that makes them ideal for that task. Most importantly, they all love doing that particular task. Amongst many other things, Collies absolutely adore running and chasing things - especially other animals! You cannot train that out of them. Even if they're neglected until late adulthood and never given the chance to run or chase anything - give them that chance and off they'll go! As I said, there are many other traits within their DNA that make them ideal for that.
Same with Labradors and becoming Guide Dogs. They have the necessary personality traits to become ideal Guide Dogs. They have wonderful empathy, loyalty & virulence abilities.
Alsatians, Cocker Spaniels & Bloodhounds have the finest abilities to pick up (& follow) scents.
Pitbulls (amongst many other breeds) have that aggression within their DNA which cannot be trained out of them!!!! Fact. Scientifically proven fact many, many, many times over.

See where I'm going with this?!?!?

Obviously good owners can & will train dangerous breeds to behave well but that does not negate the fact that it is indeed the dogs!!!!

I agree all children should be taught how to respect animals and not barge towards them.

I can’t really link 7 years at Veterinary school love!

ChelseaRobertsofMalibu I agree it's generations of aggressive breeding into the dog.

My springer spaniel is always hunting snails and big spiders delivering them to me held gently in her mouth.

She loves a good hunt around the forest, they're the traits of her breed.

Aggression is the traits of bigger bull breeds.

Here you go @bloodyplanes

What was that you were saying? @CoorieIn

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977763/

😧😵 I'd be running away screaming and strongly considering a muzzle! (Joking!) 🕷 🐌

That screenshot shot is just a random Google 🙄 and high prey drive ( which Staffordshire bull terriers have) is completely different from aggression!

I’m terrified of these xl bully breeds. I worry so much about what I would do if I was out walking and one went for my small dog. Would I have to sacrifice my dog to save myself?

I agree with mandatory training etc. I also think bully breeds should only be allowed if you’ve spent thousands on a licence. If you make the licence as expensive as possible alongside robust enforcement powers, one would hope that attacks by killer dogs would subside.

Oh so now you're excusing it as 'just a high prey drive?!'

You asked me to link proper research which I also did but you clearly didn't click on it! 🤣

@ChelseaRobertsofMalibu i did click on it! Its an American study using a very small sample of dogs so in reality proves nothing. If you knew anything about dogs you would know that prey drive and aggression are two totally different things.

It's always scummy chavs