Oh will you look at that! A government u-turn!

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AIBU to think this government is now totally dead in the water..?

Wonder what all the Truss handmaidens tying themselves in knots to defend the tax cut will say now..?

There have been hints about power cuts coming for a while, but the everything will be fine crowd rubbished anyone talking about this.

Was that article written before Truss's fiscal event announcement @Clavinova ?

@Clavinova Oh i didn't know there were strikes in France, thank goodness we don't strike in the UK.

Of course they're coming. I knew as soon as Liz Truss ruled our power cuts.🤣🤣🤣

As soon as Liz Truss ruled out power cuts.

The Tories demographic seems to have shrunk so much. Apparently you only matter these days if you're a venture capitalist. The disdain shown towards everyone else seems palpable.

How is France coping with 6% inflation?
Not very well it would seem

Correlation doesn't equal causation and it's a bit of a stretch by @Clavinova to try to link (SWIDT) what in many cases is a continuation of a long running campaign by the CGT syndicat (Tarde union) over pay and pensions directly with recent inflation figures.

FWIW the refinery strikes are almost a hardy annual, this time around the action is hitting one specific brand -TotalEnergies, who tend to supply the independent filling stations. That means there are plenty of other options available such as the filling stations at supermarkets, though old hands will of course keep their vehicles reasonably topped up...

Rest of the stuff is as I said up top the CGT's long running campaign against the reform of pensions and reform of retirement age - very long running grumble, inflation alone didn't trigger that but of course I'd accept it now gets added to the mix of complaints, but it's not the root cause of the Industrial Action, despite what a poster might be trying to imply.

They are finished. Ignore the U turn, it is that headline, it will be pictures of Kwarteng, the champagne man. That's the next election. It's cuts which will show across the country. It's Chris Philp with his "work for the dole" ideas.

The second longest suicide note in history. No party can ever afford to put its most extreme members in power, if they want to stay in power.

Just checking , is 50 too old to get a neck tatoo ?

notimagain
Correlation doesn't equal causation

My comment (Not very well it would seem) was somewhat tongue-in-cheek and meant to be a general observation - not an economic or political analysis. Perhaps you would prefer this link instead;

French air traffic controllers are set to strike again...
In a statement explaining last week’s industrial action, the union said inflation was eroding worker pay and called for wage increases and more recruitment.

www.euronews.com/travel/2022/09/20/france-travel-the-exact-dates-to-avoid-flights-as-strike-dates-announced

BirmaBrite
Was that article written before Truss's fiscal event announcement @ Clavinova

The Times article?
No.

@ScotsLassie322

The total tax cuts equal £45 billion. The government are borrowing to cover that.

Removing the 45% tax only equals about £3 billion. The rest of the £42 billion comes from all the other tax cuts.

The 45% rate is tiny in comparison and really doesn't make a huge difference, but the optics are bad. Cutting tax for the richest whilst everyone else is struggling looks bad and people were furious about it. But really, it was £3billion out of total tax cuts of £45 billion.

Not only will voters not care about what the French do, but as they feel they have less and less money, they will pay close attention to their politicians. Saying you have learned or listened is the kind of stuff you can get away with when the economy is growing.

As it, the scrapping of the rate is marginal. It was the handling, and there's no sign they understand that.

Apparently the new name in the City for GBP is the Great British Peso.

Yes, the friends of the Tories have set their direction and that won't change now.

For the past year tory apologists have been keen to brush off polling, suggesting the gap between parties was cyclical, a short phase, or just that week’s msn onslaught.

Well, now the gap’s a 25-30 point gorge. The context is totally different. For the tories it needs to be damage limitation to ensure they’re not wiped out for a generation instead of just a parliamentary term.

We’ve repeatedly been told in the last few months that Labour’s lead in the polls should be bigger - that’s right, isn’t it @HRTQueen? Big enough now? Or are you still in denial?

Well, now the gap’s a 25-30 point gorge

Although 19% of respondents in YouGov's poll (for example) replied "don't know" when asked their voting intention.

Is that now counted as votes for the Tories? The stench of desperation is becoming overwhelming.

Let's just assume by some miracle that Truss and her team don't make any kind of mistakes in the next six months. This story, like a fairy tale bogeyman, will survive. It is too good, too simple and too potent.

Over. Like Michael Foot in the 80s

It’s not GOING TO anyone - it’s the people who worked bloody hard earning it and who already pay a huge amount of tax KEEPING a little more of THEIR OWN MONEY that THEY earned.

Blossomtoes
Is that now counted as votes for the Tories?

No idea - but worth noting that "don't knows" are excluded from the headline results.

I know this is going to come as a shock to you @Skidaramink but lots of people work bloody hard and get paid an awful lot less. They pay taxes too, not just income tax which is isn't a huge percentage of the total tax take for the UK, but everytime they go shopping, fill up the car etc Nobody is immune from taxes.

Bit like death, being rich means you might die in a bigger bed, with better quality linen, but that's about it.

From Johnny Mercer MP (Con)

When I came into this, I was always told I would never achieve anything I set out to. From winning in Plymouth initially, to setting up the UK's first Office for Veterans' Affairs, and then establishing the UK's first Cabinet Minister for Veterans' Affairs - all rather ground-breaking stuff that took it's toll. We did all that, and then Truss cancelled it all at a stroke - it felt like seven years of work for the guys and girls down the drain
I acknowledge it isn't. So much has been achieved. Take Op Courage which I drove through against the system - the UK's first dedicated care pathway for veterans mental health - 19,000 referrals in it's first year alone - a huge unmet need. I'm just so sad that my Party's commitment's to veterans seems to be so superficially skin deep, and it is that sadness which has caught me so off-guard

Tory U-turns, real world effects.

That's not like you to bring up the don't knows.

We all know that you have to also look at the likely to vote as well.

Oh - and I would be really annoyed if I were you as you could probably waste a lot of time and links defending the Conservatives only for them to change their mind the next day.

cakeorwine
That's not like you to bring up the don't knows

I disagree!

We all know that you have to also look at the likely to vote as well

Indeed - Redfield & Wilton;

After weighting by likelihood to vote, 18% of the sample says they do not know how they would vote, including 22% of those who voted Conservative in December 2019 and 6% of those who voted Labour.

A net competency of -45%

redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-gb-voting-intention-2-october-2022/

Just 12% of people polled find the Government competent and 57% find them incompetent.