*trigger warning* Should we let pedophiles go?

[killthemall]

I'm just thinking outloud here but I'd be interested in opinions.

I was groomed and taken advantage of by an older relative when I was a teenager. Didn't learn my lesson and was groomed again by his brother! (I wised up at the similarities though and nothing happened a second time)

Anyway the point is as I know them personally (and they are both still very much involved in the family, I was blamed as the evil temptress obviously) so I know all of their dirty little secrets. And theg have both gotten themselves into positions of power, given themselves access to vulnerable people. I don't know I'd anything has gone on but u wouldn't be surprised. What I do know is that they both preyed on vulnerable women for partners and abuse them now. I don't know the full extent but I know enough to know they haven't changed and are a source on society.
My children aren't allowed near them.

Now I was talking in a group about paedophiles, as you do when there is yet another case in the news or on the television, or on netflix.
Anyway, we were chatting and we got along the lines of whether it is an illness or not.
I don't believe so. Thinking the thoughts may be unpleasant but acting on them is another thing entirely.
Then it was said that if they aren't attracted to women then perhaps they wouldn't reproduced and if there was a peado gene maybe it would have died out.
And then we were saying that in the old days if you found out uncle Jim hurt your child like that then you would kill him and that be that. Because let's face it, you would if there was no law against it.

But what I've seen time and time again is creating, sharing and possessing indecent images of children isn't given a 15 year sentence. It's given a tap on the wrist 2 years 18 months with good behaviour.

I was watching a program about the police and there was a paedo and he had disgusting videos and images on his laptop, admitted to it, and was let out on bail on the same day waiting for his devices to be checked by whoever does that, Despite them already finding them!

Now I think if I was like that and I knew I'd get a couple years for possessing and sharing images like that then that's a minor deterent.

Or the ones who actually go through with it and hurt children. Oh god. I think they should be locked away indefinitely. I really don't feel safe knowing anyone could be one, but even ones who are caught are let go, ready to do it again. Loads of them do.

this was sparked by the should be bring back state murder thread and my first thought was 'not for murderers'' but then someone posted about paedophiles and I thought "oh yeah they can die" without a second thought.
I really think harsher sentences and they should be locked up. I mean that man who got caught and let out has surely just been shown that he can do it and he gets 24 hours in custody and then he's free basically (I know its on bail but they said he could be waiting 12-24 months to have his devices checked. imagine what he could do after being arrested and the videos were found and he confessed and then let go? Je is going to be exhilarated and possibly fearful of what's coming in a few years. he might go out and do what he can! he's just go away with it basically.

If they don't act on it, then they have nothing to worry about. They have to control thier sick urges.

My understanding is that paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation, but a paraphilia, which is basically a fetish. They are nearly always men, because it's nearly always men who have sexual paraphilias.

I don't really have any compassion or sympathy for such men, and I do think sentencing should be harsher, and child safeguarding should be stronger. I have some reservations about the death penalty - if we could guarantee no innocent person would be put to death, then I wouldn't object to it. I do think such men should be removed from society permanently.

Unfortunately there is quite a push against stigmatising and discriminating against "MAPS" these days. The woke are pushing it as part of their "queer" umbrella. Even Blocked and Reported did an episode which was very sympathetic to paedophiles. A lot of talk about how they can't help it, it's just like being gay, we need to be more accepting and understanding so that they can make good choices... It's worrying.

It's something that is just unforgivable, a child is helpless, naive and trusting. There should be no grey area here. There should be a precedent set, that if you commit this crime, you get this punishment. For instance, I would never go and murder someone ( apart from a paedophile) but I can see how murder can happen. I think the law needs to change and if it doesn't stop paedophiles then they'll be sentenced to death. People have no consequences these days.

For instance, I would never go and murder someone ( apart from a paedophile)

Lol

I know the difference between right and wrong is my point. It's not difficult to know, it's actually very easy. If I did kill a paedophile, I would accept the punishment for my crime.

Would you murder a paedophile who has never acted on his urges/hurt anyone? Really?

This is exactly the problem. Why would someone who is a paedophile who wants to get rid of these urges and get help ask for help if they think someone would murder them or wish them death. This mentality means we'll never be able to tackle this issue and try to focus on prevention and actually help children.

I wouldn't kill them for thier urges and asked for help. I would only take these measures if they did something to one of my children. Sorry if that wasn't clear

There's a convincing school of thought that they all claim that when caught.

So sympathy and pop psychology can help them.

Funny how do many victims (the majority) of child sex abuse are female, yet so many of the offenders are male (in fact pretty much all, and if you see a case with a woman, it will almost always have a man influencing & procuring somewhere). Why aren't the majority female if that's the case?

This x100

It just doesn’t compute. Women csa survivors don’t generally go on to sexually abuse children. See Dr by

Don’t know where last sentence came from

Didn't learn my lesson and was groomed again by his brother!

Please don't blame yourself OP. This was NOT your fault.

I agree with you. I think they should be put away for life.

I actually think it is an illness , we are biologically designed to have children and care for them until adulthood. We are not "designed" to be sexually attracted to younger people.

I think the only way to make it safer for children is to accept that it's an illness , get rid of the stigma and promote treatment options.

I think its more of a fault in our genes or something. We are designed, as you say, to reproduce. You can't reproduce with children any more than same sex couples can.

It's a sexual orientation in that sense, they can't help it any more than someone can help being gay, they can't help feelings but unlike gay relationships, paedophilia is wrong. It hurts the children. Acting on it is a choice.

I have a lot of respect for paedophiles who never offend, it must be a horrible thing to live with. There should be a lot more research into it and treatment options to try. Less stigma as you say.

They shouldn't be driven underground to the point of being unable to seek help. They haven't offended, they aren't criminals.