Only people causing trouble on European holidays are Brits!

[TeenyQueen]

I'll preface this by saying that not all British holidaymakers are causing trouble, far from it. However, my experience is that it is always British people who do cause trouble when abroad by getting too drunk and becoming aggressive etc.

We're currently on a European holiday in a nice 4* apartment complex. We've had a lovely time so far, even managed to get DH off his phone for a change after a serious chat.

HOWEVER, three nights ago a British family arrived and they're staying at the opposite end of the corridor, parents and two pre-teen boys. First the whole family was making an absolute racket every time they got back to their apartment past 8pm, and they were especially loud at 11pm when they seemed to call it a night. They were so loud that I popped my head out and asked them to be quiet. The following night the boys decided to start knocking on our apartment door loudly at 11pm, waking up our baby in the process. I went over to knock on their door to speak to the parents, expecting them to apologise. Far from it! Dad (who was massive) opens the door, swears and shouts in my face and slams the door shut. I obviously contacted reception immediately and I believe they dealt with it because so far tonight it's been quieter. I did see the boys running around the bar and the dad drinking at 3pm this afternoon. The receptionist actually told me that the parents had both been really drunk last night.

Everyone else has been lovely, there are mainly families and older couples here and lots of different nationalities. No trouble with anyone else, so why is it just British people?

Now I'm actually scared of going into the corridor with my children in case I see them. 😧

If you go luxury op you’re more likely to notice ‘influencers’ than noisy Brits

As per our last trip

@Maireas I would hope that anyone who goes on holiday anywhere was being classy, wouldn't you? Would you like little *nobheads banging on your door and waking your baby up at 11pm?

I'm British! I'm obviously ghastly on holiday! 😂😂😂

@MarshaBradyo as long as they're not trying to cause trouble and disturb us I'm happy with Brits, Russians or influencers.

I'm quite amazed at your level of entitlement in that you expect people to put you and your baby first at all times.

No trouble they look great though

We hadn’t been for a while and really noticed it

@Maireas did you read my OP? I very clearly said it's NOT all Brits, but my own experience is that it has always been Brits, unfortunately.

I'm reading the title of your thread, pet, it's right above your comment.
The only people causing problems?
Anyway, happy holidays, tovarich! 😉😂😂

My own experience, and those of others on here is clearly different.
I had a fantastic holiday in Russia, mostly they were great people. I know others beg to differ.

😁

Then one afternoon, a huge group from Essex arrived…I felt ashamed to be British.

that's a bit extreme @lizziesiddal79 I am from Essex so not only went on holiday with others of my ilk but have spent a long time absorbing the essence of the county within the bosoms of my family.

I've never felt ashamed to be British even when my uncle got a discount on a two-tone gold and bronze Capri for working at Ford's Dagenham.

Obviously it would be for you to judge me but I feel I can behave reasonably well in the company of people who come from other parts of the world. On the whole I like the good people of Essex. My brother doesn't tip which I think is appalling behaviour but that habit would go down well according to many threads on Mumsnet.

What is it about people from Essex that you don't like? Is it our unlovely accent our propensity to crave material goods? Do tell me where you come from so I can pass ignorant comments about people from round your way.

Just checking back to see if the OP has told us where her and her Dh are from?

Nope. Thought not.

In fact I just had that conversation last week while abroad , completely out of the blue we were asked where we were from and we said our country of origin but we lived in Scotland . He went on to rant about English tourists for a good 5 minute and how he cannot understand why Scottish and Irish are so nice but English are so arrogant and bad mannered . This is not exactly my view but this seems to be what most people on holiday destinations think .

So is this 'person from abroad' a fluent English speaker? He can instantly tell the difference between 'arrogant and bad mannered' English tourists, and 'nice' Scottish and Irish tourists? Does he go up and ask them their nationality or just assume from their accents?

And why is this random person's opinion so important at any rate? If someone here went on to 'rant' (your word) about how dreadful German or Spanish or Polish people were, would you repeat that as some sort of insight, as you are doing here?

Sadly I don't think we will ever know where OP comes from originally. Makes this discussion somewhat unbalanced in that we may never know if her country men/women are prone to obnoxious behaviours at any time or if, in fact she hails from some oasis of social perfection which us grubby Brits can only observe longingly from afar, unable to surmount our multiple shortcomings and/or improve our tarnished reputations on the world stage

This is very typical on threads like this.

People will start a thread with the obvious intention of bashing all things British, or rather English, while adding about how 'in my country' things are so much better. Ask them to name this magical mystery land, however, and they clam up because it's 'outing'. They're happy to drop a load of stealth brags about their Indian Ocean villas however.

I'm fascinated by this international fraternity of taverna and tapas bar owners who scowl chicly at Brits but break into beaming smiles when it turns out they're from Lockerbie rather than Berwick, say. The insistence that Brits (specifically English ones) are the worst tourists ever reminds me of people who insist that English football fans are without doubt, the worst football fans ever too. I can only assume these people haven't travelled very far or spoken to many people other than their Air B&B hosts.

@TauCeti too true. Mumsnet is generally innocent of the livelier parts of eastern and northern European football hooliganism where memories of Nazism remain strong.

I wouldn't want to go to Faliraki or Ayia Napa but I can't help wondering if things would be quieter if bar owners there stopped pouring cheap alcohol down the throats of foreign teenage tourists of all nationalities and concentrated on providing cultural pursuits for older retired couples like me and my husband.

We have lots of money to spend but perhaps the bar owners are more interested in whingeing while taking money hand over fist than spending it providing the kind of culture I pursue in other places.

They're helped by snobs like @TeenyQueen who likes the kind of place I wouldn't touch with a bargepole either.

DH is half British and I am mixed European, so are not staunch Brits. We live in holiday destination that attracts tourists from all over the world and have not observed Brits being noticeably worse than other nationalities. In past years, it was mainly Russians that were the most obnoxious but this year we did not notice them and there didn't seem many around. Among the young adults partying in nearby beach clubs, behaviour was pretty much the same across all nationalities. As for families with children, we actually found German kids to be the worst behaved with parents doing little to deal with them.

I do think it depends a lot on where you go. All over tourist destinations, there are enclaves of particular nationalities, like Torremolinos is little Britain, so their antics are much more noticeable. Mallorca on the other hand is overrun by Germans, often jokingly referred to as the 17th federal German state. So, there tend to be more loud drunk Germans. If locals are disparaging about them, then they are bloody hypocrites because they do rely on their money.

@TeenyQueen if your teeny mind can conceive of people other than Britons being appalling on holiday, who would you say was in the wrong here?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11265299/Dutch-cycling-fans-say-Mathieu-van-der-Poel-victim-knock-run-assault-Novotel.html

Like Switzerland I'm remaining neutral.

@Keyansier yes quite, but I got deleted for pointing out similar.

So all I'll say is I think the OP's anger is being misdirected towards her holiday neighbours, instead of the awful husband she's stuck there with.

Was about to say I can't understand why you got a post deleted for pointing that out, but it seems mine has been deleted too I was only quoting things from OP's own posts and words.

I guess where OP comes from shall remain a mystery to us all and she is given free reign to continue slagging off citizens from another country whilst simultaneously upholding her own as moral beacons.

This year we encountered several loud smug Dutch families with too many children yelling whining and destroying the peace. The English and French families were lovely.

I've found on holidays that I've been on that's a common recurring theme when it comes to families and especially older teenagers/young adults from those parts.

And where is it you are from again, OP?

Exactly. It was literally only what she'd posted herself on this public forum.

And yet this xenophobic, bigoted thread is allowed to stand.

But MNHQ make the rules so 🤷‍♀️