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Only people causing trouble on European holidays are Brits!

233 replies

TeenyQueen · 01/10/2022 21:01

I'll preface this by saying that not all British holidaymakers are causing trouble, far from it. However, my experience is that it is always British people who do cause trouble when abroad by getting too drunk and becoming aggressive etc.

We're currently on a European holiday in a nice 4* apartment complex. We've had a lovely time so far, even managed to get DH off his phone for a change after a serious chat.

HOWEVER, three nights ago a British family arrived and they're staying at the opposite end of the corridor, parents and two pre-teen boys. First the whole family was making an absolute racket every time they got back to their apartment past 8pm, and they were especially loud at 11pm when they seemed to call it a night. They were so loud that I popped my head out and asked them to be quiet. The following night the boys decided to start knocking on our apartment door loudly at 11pm, waking up our baby in the process. I went over to knock on their door to speak to the parents, expecting them to apologise. Far from it! Dad (who was massive) opens the door, swears and shouts in my face and slams the door shut. I obviously contacted reception immediately and I believe they dealt with it because so far tonight it's been quieter. I did see the boys running around the bar and the dad drinking at 3pm this afternoon. The receptionist actually told me that the parents had both been really drunk last night.

Everyone else has been lovely, there are mainly families and older couples here and lots of different nationalities. No trouble with anyone else, so why is it just British people?

Now I'm actually scared of going into the corridor with my children in case I see them. 😧

OP posts:
worriedatthistime · 02/10/2022 01:15

@antelopevalley reac again she mentions 8pm first so hard to work out the first time
And whats noisey ? They could of been just chatting, which people do going to their rooms

Mfsf · 02/10/2022 01:17

The reality is brits , specially English have a reputation for a reason . Every single place I traveled to they seem worst . This is by far not me saying all brits are bad , I know it’s a minority but that minority gives a bad reputation

antelopevalley · 02/10/2022 01:19

worriedatthistime · 02/10/2022 01:15

@antelopevalley reac again she mentions 8pm first so hard to work out the first time
And whats noisey ? They could of been just chatting, which people do going to their rooms

She says clearly it was at 11pm.

bloodyplanes · 02/10/2022 01:20

Im British and i agree! The vast majority of the time it's always the British causing problems, especially after drinking to much! However a close runner up for bad behaviour and bad manners is the Russians!

worriedatthistime · 02/10/2022 01:27

@antelopevalley no she does not say it clearly can you not read the 8pm bit
Regardless its 11 pm not 1 am and we have no idea how she spoke to them or how noisy they were
They were rude when she knocked granted , but depends on noise level if that was warranted

worriedatthistime · 02/10/2022 01:30

Some of you really can't grasp that you mostly go to british resorts so will see more bad behaviour as well as the fact most of you don't speAk German , Dutch etc
HolidY companies in uk sell to hotels that will have a large number of brits, holiday companies in Germany will sell to hotels that have a large number of germans
Yes you have a mix but generally a majority in many hotels
To say you have never seen another nationality behave badly ever i struggle to believe

NaturalBae · 02/10/2022 01:32

You’ll find dragged up, drunk and generally badly behaved people from every corner of the World. Therefore, is not okay to generalise or target a whole nationality or race based on the behaviour of a minority.

Although there’s no guarantee, try upping your game to 5* to have more of a chance of avoiding this type of drunken behaviour when travelling. Also conduct thorough research on the location and always read accommodation reviews.

GnusSitOnCanoes · 02/10/2022 01:35

She clearly says she knocked on their door because the neighbour’s children were banging on her door at 11pm and woke her baby. That’s totally unacceptable. I would also have gone over to speak to the parents.

On the first night, she says they returned home at 8pm and then were noisy. She asked them to be quiet at around 11pm.

DdraigGoch · 02/10/2022 01:37

You should see what several Asian countries think of Chinese tourists. No drunkenness, but defecation and desecration.

Drunken louts aren't a purely British phenomenon, Russian tourists are known for hitting the bottle (their football hooligans make Millwall look tame) and I get occasional trouble at work from drunken Irishmen.

DdraigGoch · 02/10/2022 01:41

IsThePopeCatholic · 01/10/2022 21:43

Yes, agreed. Brits abroad are often feral. I’m afraid it’s their sense of entitlement and superiority over Johnny Foreigner. So embarrassing .

Nothing to do with any supposed sense of entitlement. Everything to do with an unhealthy drinking culture.

FarmhouseLiving22 · 02/10/2022 02:14

I think it depends where you go. We went on holiday (in Europe) this year and it was actually other nationalities being incredibly rude and obnoxious at the beach and in restaurants whilst the British tourists were just sat chatting or having a quiet drink.

But I don't think 11pm is considered "late" on holiday for people getting home from having a meal etc.

maddiemookins16mum · 02/10/2022 03:21

One family (albeit sounding pretty grim), does not make all Brits bad.
We’re on holiday in Majorca, no badly behaved Brits here, in fact the worst behaved are the Spanish families in the dining room and their screaming, ill mannered wains who can not sit at a table or manage a single meal without wailing.

keeprunning55 · 02/10/2022 03:50

On my holiday to France, it was the French who were unpleasant to a Irish family. Brits were fine. I think it depends on where you holiday.

BigChesterDraws · 02/10/2022 04:11

People drinking at 3 pm and going to bed (or “calling it a night”) at 11 pm on their holidays? Shock horror!

You need to lighten up a bit. They’re on holiday. Rent your own villa in the country, miles from any neighbours, next time if you find people enjoying themselves on holiday so abhorrent.

Hearthnhome · 02/10/2022 04:58

Op, how do you live in Britain and think British means English? Scottish people are British.

I have travelled all over. I am British though not English and live in England. I have also worked in the tourism and hospitality industry in England.

Some people are rude. Some people don’t care about disturbing others. These people exist in every country. When you travel you come across some. You happen to have come across some English people who are disturbing you and don’t seem to care.

But people from any country can be rude or not think of others. In my experience it’s not usually the British that come at the top of that list.

waffless · 02/10/2022 06:56

This is very often the case. The Spanish for instance do not like British tourists very much. However, my worst experience for bad behaviours have been in hotels in SOBE Miami with people coming back to party in hotel rooms. Calling drug dealers, loud rap music, etc… pointless to call them out directly. You are always better of calling reception.

70billionthnamechange · 02/10/2022 07:23

shedwithivy · 01/10/2022 21:06

I'm not sure if a sample size of one really proves your point about the whole British nation.

😂😂😂😂

YellowTreeHouse · 02/10/2022 07:44

GnusSitOnCanoes · 02/10/2022 01:35

She clearly says she knocked on their door because the neighbour’s children were banging on her door at 11pm and woke her baby. That’s totally unacceptable. I would also have gone over to speak to the parents.

On the first night, she says they returned home at 8pm and then were noisy. She asked them to be quiet at around 11pm.

Actually they only knocked on her door and woke the baby the night after she had copped an attitude and spoke to them.

Dumbitdown · 02/10/2022 07:49

I worked in a business that caters mainly for Italian, Spanish and French tourists and sells food & drink packages as part of its product. The 'all inclusive' was probably bought by about 40% of the clients. It was popular but the tourists weren't happy with the cap on bottled water and felt the package was expensive. You could order as much as you wanted of any of the other drink listed in the package (some cocktails were out, for example).

The company had been in business for over 50 years already so weren't new on the scene but they weren't ready for what happened when they opened up to the UK market. The all inclusive package was astounding value in the UK tourists eyes!

I remember having an emergency meeting one season because our bars were being drunk dry and were making a loss. The staff behind the bars and on the floor were horrified at the behaviour of (sorry to say they did say 'English'). Disgusting toilets, broken furniture, injuries, arguments, abused staff, vomit in the corridors, lost drunks wandering about looking for their rooms. It was ridiculous.

They changed the package soon after that to put a cap on alcohol. Didn't affect sales for the main markets.

mrschocolatte · 02/10/2022 08:07

I have travelled a lot in my life and outside of Europe whenever I’ve encountered fellow Brits I have seen very little trouble. In fact I’ve made a lot of new friends!

However, when I’ve been in more popular tourist destinations in Europe (E.g Greece, Turkey, Spain) you do notice more bad behaviour - usually drinking related which then results in lots of loud shouting and swearing so from a visceral perspective it’s quite jarring and upsetting. But I also think the more you pay the better the experience. We have just come back from a 5 star resort in Corfu where pretty much everyone was British and it was completely chilled and relaxed.

The one thing that has shocked me in recent years is the attitude of other nationalities when they find out your British. I was in a pub in Iceland with DH that was showing a football game and we settled down to watch. Two American guys sitting to our left got up and one of them looked at me with genuine disgust and said to his friend ‘let’s get away from the British scum’ and flounced out. It really shook me. A couple of other Americans who overheard came over and were really nice about it and we ended up having a really good chat but what we learnt from the nice Americans was the British are really not as liked as I thought we were! Since then I have noticed other occasions when people have been less than friendly to us when we’ve been abroad.

BarrelOfOtters · 02/10/2022 08:13

Not sure why O P is getting a hard time from some posters.

russians were dreadful in Egypt. Vodka at 9 in the morning, rude to staff. But obviously not all Russians, been to Russia and have Russian friends.

in Cambodia and Egypt and Russia it was the Chinese tourists who were most complained about,

Hearthnhome · 02/10/2022 08:16

mrschocolatte · 02/10/2022 08:07

I have travelled a lot in my life and outside of Europe whenever I’ve encountered fellow Brits I have seen very little trouble. In fact I’ve made a lot of new friends!

However, when I’ve been in more popular tourist destinations in Europe (E.g Greece, Turkey, Spain) you do notice more bad behaviour - usually drinking related which then results in lots of loud shouting and swearing so from a visceral perspective it’s quite jarring and upsetting. But I also think the more you pay the better the experience. We have just come back from a 5 star resort in Corfu where pretty much everyone was British and it was completely chilled and relaxed.

The one thing that has shocked me in recent years is the attitude of other nationalities when they find out your British. I was in a pub in Iceland with DH that was showing a football game and we settled down to watch. Two American guys sitting to our left got up and one of them looked at me with genuine disgust and said to his friend ‘let’s get away from the British scum’ and flounced out. It really shook me. A couple of other Americans who overheard came over and were really nice about it and we ended up having a really good chat but what we learnt from the nice Americans was the British are really not as liked as I thought we were! Since then I have noticed other occasions when people have been less than friendly to us when we’ve been abroad.

That really odd considering Americans, in general, really try an claim their European Heritage. Especially, Scots and Irish. Americans whose families haven’t set foot in Ireland for 4 generations will claim they are Irish.

It’s actually ‘a thing’ that Americans are really shocked the rest of the world isn’t in awe of them, wether at home or in someone else’s country. The latest saying that’s upsetting Americans is that ‘America is a 3rd world country with a Gucci belt’.

I think the Americans who refused to drink near ‘British scum’ and the ones who explained it, yet again, don’t know what British actually is.

Aposterhasnoname · 02/10/2022 08:23

Justanotherlurker · 01/10/2022 23:13

We're actually very well travelled.

You're really not, your op is slanted into waning a certain response and you are showing a lack of nuance,

You're not as travelled as you think you are if you think that Brits are as much of a problem as your leading question tried to insinuate

Absolutely this.

mrschocolatte · 02/10/2022 08:23

@Hearthnhome I suspect had we were not been English we may not have had that reaction.

newyorkbreakfast · 02/10/2022 08:31

I agree. It's alcohol fuelled. Other Europeans don't seem to drink as much. I'm always pleased when other holidaymakers around me are not British. I also like not hearing english being spoken when I'm abroad.