Only people causing trouble on European holidays are Brits!

[TeenyQueen]

I'll preface this by saying that not all British holidaymakers are causing trouble, far from it. However, my experience is that it is always British people who do cause trouble when abroad by getting too drunk and becoming aggressive etc.

We're currently on a European holiday in a nice 4* apartment complex. We've had a lovely time so far, even managed to get DH off his phone for a change after a serious chat.

HOWEVER, three nights ago a British family arrived and they're staying at the opposite end of the corridor, parents and two pre-teen boys. First the whole family was making an absolute racket every time they got back to their apartment past 8pm, and they were especially loud at 11pm when they seemed to call it a night. They were so loud that I popped my head out and asked them to be quiet. The following night the boys decided to start knocking on our apartment door loudly at 11pm, waking up our baby in the process. I went over to knock on their door to speak to the parents, expecting them to apologise. Far from it! Dad (who was massive) opens the door, swears and shouts in my face and slams the door shut. I obviously contacted reception immediately and I believe they dealt with it because so far tonight it's been quieter. I did see the boys running around the bar and the dad drinking at 3pm this afternoon. The receptionist actually told me that the parents had both been really drunk last night.

Everyone else has been lovely, there are mainly families and older couples here and lots of different nationalities. No trouble with anyone else, so why is it just British people?

Now I'm actually scared of going into the corridor with my children in case I see them. 😧

Try taking your blinkers off. As ever mumsnet’s legendary classism turns to unwavering solidarity when it comes to justifiably unfavourable comparisons with Johnny Foreigner.

Bollocks are they:
www.rbth.com/politics_and_society/2017/08/01/why-are-russian-tourists-so-unpopular-abroad_814590

www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/chinese-tourists-warned-behaving-badly-wang-yang

Yeh as I said if that’s the best you can do I’m not surprised your clinging to it.

Actually in a pp you mangled the following,
British doesn’t not mean English.

I was going to let it slide but I’m now going to disregard all your previous and future posts as you can’t have a point if you don’t have a basic grasp of British English grammar. 😉

Haha, yeh another classic, the “well, the Russian’s are worse!” excuse. I don’t let my children pull that one!

😂😂😂 you were ‘going to let it go’ 😂😂😂. What are you going to do? Tell my dad? 🙄

It’s such a shame you just can’t grasp that if you don’t know what something is, you don’t have a point.

Its not everyone else’s fault, you agreed with the Op without realising she didn’t understand that Scottish people are also British.

Op clearly meant English. Not British. So she made no point at all. Because she didn’t mean British people.

I didn't make other claims to who was "worse". I was simply disproving your assertion that "holiday troublemakers are always British".

You clearly said “British doesn’t not mean English.” So you made no point at all. Because you didn’t not mean English.

Wtf. Did you read the part where their dc's were banging on their door, waking the baby. I am sure you would be super chilled about that if your baby was being woken by entitled children with no boundaries.

Yanbu op about this family. Hopefully the hotel will sort it. Though they will only be a small minority. Its just these types of families are more noticable

British doesn’t mean English. It includes English people. It does not mean English.

That’s like saying European means French. If you mean French people, you say French people. Not Europeans.

Its obviously beyond your comprehension.

Also in Spain. Most of the stories you hear about tourists behaving badly are Brits, with balconing entering the Spanish language from that quarter. A hoteler I know specifically doesn't offer all inclusive with meals in the Canary Islands specifically to avoid attracting that type of tourist. My preference for holidays is to the north, with Galicia, Cantabria, the Basque Country and Asturias in part to avoid the tourist type looking for a lobster red boozy beach holiday.

That said, a lot of it depends on where you live/go on holiday and who the major tourist clients are. In Spain, you say Brit or German behaving badly, and everyone nods along knowingly. Other places have different behaving badly demographics. In Australia, it was often the locals (schoolies) who were the worst. They were often followed by American, New Zealander and British exchange students.

Read the op properly. They were banging on the door at 11pm. How is this remotely acceptable ? Saying goodnight my arse

You know the room number, is it a package holiday? Worth contacting the company if it is.

@Betahydroxybutyrate I've had and seen similar from several nationalities.
From memory...In Cuba at a local bar many Cubans loudly discussing a British family and calling their kids fat.
On a train in Italy a group of Italian men talking about the women in the next carriage and how they should be at home.
Americans who thought I didn't understand English slagging me off for taking up too much space on a shared bench. (I was just sat down as far as I could without hitting the cast of the kid next to me and his broken leg, and they had enough room to sit.)
And lots of very loud Spanish tourists on the tube in London every week saying awful things about the people around them. It happens all the time.

Not to downplay the British arses you encountered but just to add another view. Again, not only a British thing to think it's OK to be rude if you think people don't understand you.

Another one who missed the bit about the other family banging on the door at 11pm waking the baby. Aye. You would be just grand with that wouldn't you? The attitudes and making things up on here are getting right on my wick now

One of the bigger upper class grocery stores near me is located in a huge department store that prior to COVID would get bus loads of Chinese and Korean tourists specifically going there.

There are grocery store sort of protocols, like certain sections you ask for fruit and veg, and then they get it and bag it for you, put the ID code on it for the register. They had to put signs up in Mandarin saying don't touch the fruit and veg, and don't eat it.

And having had to navigate the odd time behind these Chinese tourists in grocery store, I would arrive in say the aisle with bags for rubbish to find one or two of each kind had been opened and had been half strewn around on the shelf as they assessed quality. That made shopping a huge difficulty.

Luckily, the pandemic seems to have killed most of that.

(I've also been blocked while shopping by American visitors with a local expat guide who do things like marvel at the aisle containing only olives and the other aisle that is almost only olive oil. Thank you. Glad you're impressed. Still a supermarket. Kindly stop taking pictures and move. I've yet to have issues with a Brit, be they English, Scottish or Welsh, at that supermarket.)

Loads of potential generalizations can be made. As an American in Spain, I can't say who is worse for volume, other Americans with voices that penetrate brick walls or the Spanish. (And while Brits may be the drunken ones on the beach, they are not out in force at 8am on a Sunday morning in Madrid or Segovia or Toledo. That's the local youth.)

And another one 🙄Read the op fgs

How can you bear to live in the UK amongst the dreadful Brits?

A) You said "Brits" which includes Scots.

B) Over 6 years ago now, but my last resort holiday abroad was to Crete where without doubt the worst were from somewhere in Eastern Europe (wouldn't be able to guess from the language(s))

We holidayed in a lovely hotel in Spain this year. There were people of every nationality: British, Spanish, French, Dutch, Italian, American, Canadian, Iranian, Chinese, Polish. Everyone was so friendly and well-mannered. It was a lovely atmosphere.

Then one afternoon, a huge group from Essex arrived…

I felt ashamed to be British.

Have just booked a remote villa for next year; we do not want ANY neighbours, not b/c we don't like people but because we love solitude. I guess I could have mailed the agent to ask if they could guarantee that the neighbours at any of the other properties I was interested in were not likely to be 'Brits', but I have the maturity to understand that any human being, irrespective of their country of origin, has the potential to be rude, loud and inconsiderate & if I heard a British voice abroad, I am not so prejudiced to think that would instantly make them a trouble maker. This is a horrible thread chock full of xenophobia that would not be allowed if it was being directed at any other nation.

And yet lots of people, including myself, have detailed incidents where troublemakers were a variety of different nationalities. So, very far from being always British. 🙄

Where did I say otherwise? I’m pointing out it’s no ok that their kids were knocking on her door at 11pm and woke her baby. Multiple posters above (you included) seemed to be glossing over that.

Unless you’re suggesting that’s acceptable retaliation for her asking them to be quiet (in line with the building rules) at 11pm the night before?

Just be glad you don't live next door to them!

Lived abroad for a bit working with many nationalities - I can confirm, in my experience, that Croatians, Polish people, Americans. Australians, Irish and Swedes are all equal to the British 'getting drunk and being asshats' - it's not just a British issue

Also - holidaying in Europe a lot, Dutch families (I have met) while lovely have also been mad - lots of day drinking, chain smoking and feral children (great kids but wild wild wild! like they have never had an adult say no to them!) - I don't think that's reflective of all Dutch people though! (Also Belgians drive like blind drunks - but only the ones I've met on the Brussels ring road!)

No, you said, “British doesn’t not mean English”. Double negative, so that’s “British means English”, so you were agreeing with OP. Or have you changed you mind now? You sound confused.