To all those wondering why police aren't investigating crime

What % of the 17 crime related calls would be attended to?

The police need to stop being so risk-averse and go back to fighting crime in the most efficient manner possible, "human rights" be damned.

I'm sure the people who the police have to visit for mental health reasons, will stop calling when they are told "Grow up . Stop being a self entitled attention seeking numpty and if you need help get it" by a police officer on a discussion forum. That's one way of reducing the workload I guess.

@CatGrins I think they should care very much that a huge amount of the British public have no confidence in them. The last couple of years particularly has been terrible.

Yes, this is a good parody of a tory voter but I'm not sure how it helps the discussion at hand.

I'm sure the force would just prefer better funding, to be honest.

All the police officers I know (about as 10 lots of police in my family) vote Tory so I am not sympathetic when they moan about cuts, Not saying you do OP, I just do not get it.

Having been sat in my local A&E for 12 hours recently I saw at least 8 officers (2 x 4 pairs) over that period very patiently waiting with people having mental health crises. But I don’t think it’s fair for you put this on the public. They shouldn’t have to choose between a functioning NHS and a functioning police force. Aim your frustration at the government.

As a member of the public I would like people with mental health crisis to get appropriate help and I don’t think the police are right for this. I would also like the police to help me when I am stuck in my house because men are fighting outside on the street damaging cars or when teenagers are throwing stones at people walking past. It’s not right I have to choose between the two.

The police spend too much time on non crime hate incidents, wagging fingers at people because someone got offended.

What % of time was spent on that category?

But not YOUR human rights eh? Only people you don’t deem worthy to have human rights?

And we have above any explanation for the underfunding of the services this nation needs. Why we have an unelected PM who believes in cutting taxes, in not caring for those who cannot care for themselves.
Who decides who are wastrels and rifraf, the undeserving poor?
I don't suppose the PP goes to church so referring to Matthew 25 about who we are supposed to be responsible for will fall on deaf ears. And don't expect the police to come when the w and rr get past your ring doorbell and your alarm system and your cctv, because you won't have paid for them.
Please note, this is not addressed to those of you with a mature understanding of society, just one person above.

Don't take even more of my money subsidising the wastrels and rif-raf of society who don't bother.

Bollocks to that. We pay tax so that we can live in an ordered and caring society. If the government is mismanaging where that money goes, and the organisations are pissing it up the wall on other things, that is something that can be changed.

Vote for the right people.

This won't go well OP, but I agree with you.

How many people on MN are told to 'phone 101 to log it with police' when their neighbours put their bin back for them and other such nonsense.

I recommend everyone should spend a shift working in an emergency services call centre. It is another world!

But the police shouldn't be there to pick up the pieces because there isn't enough mental health support.
I know exactly what the OP is referring to, the person on the other thread specifies that police spent hours with her, getting her antibiotics and taking her home.
How many crimes were committed whilst they looked after that one person with mental health issues?

OP clearly wasn't blaming those having mental health issues, they are asking they people acknowledge the reasons they didn't turn up to your bike theft, or your ex texting you over and over instead of slating them. The media and the current cancel culture has royally fucked the publics perception of the police. For the most part, as with the rest of society, police officers will help when you need and are not the arseholes they are portrayed to be.

@stillvicarinatutu - it’s not true that every incident is attended. Over the past 6 years I’ve been in my town here is what the police refused to attend and never followed up on from just me alone:

• drug dealer stood at the top of the street for 2 hours dealing drugs like he had a market stool.
• men in my front garden wasted, smoking drugs and refusing to leave, threatening me and my baby through the window
• man being attacked in the street by two thugs, I was asked to move closer to assess how bad the beating was and when I said no they said well we can’t help.
• teenagers throwing stones at passing people and cyclists
• two men fighting in the street slamming into cars.

The police spend too much time on non crime hate incidents, wagging fingers at people because someone got offended.

would be interesting to see a breakdown of % of police time spent on the various categories. Of that 83% how much is mental health? how much is public engagement (dancing at pride), policing football matches (do the clubs pay for that, or part of that?) non-crime incidents, etc etc

From where i am sitting i think the police have 2 huge problems to overcome.
One is not being used for what they are intended (eg attending MH calls) the other is the public perception of them as doughnut eating sexist, racist twunts. The second they can probably get a handle on by themselves. The first? funding. And i wonder how many police officers voted for the current government?

Have to admit after reading Sussex police force's Twitter feed this week I have precious little sympathy.
they care more about a poor ickle paedophile being misgendered than they do about the actual victims of crime
spend time dealing with crime not criminalising people for staying facts

You’re not being consistent. You say only 17% of the calls you get are about crimes. Suggesting people aren’t reporting crimes. Then you say you’d rather be dealing with crime and criminals but you don’t have time. Suggesting people are but they aren’t getting the help they deserve.

You also can’t decide who you’re blaming. Or what you expect MN users to do.

And don’t blame the idiots whinging about stuff on Facebook. If there’s no crime taking place don’t indulge the bloody complaint!

Maybe if the police stopped targeting people for wrong think and so called non crime hate crimes, it might free up their time a bit to get on with actual policing.

Just a thought.

I get what you are saying @stillvicarinatutu , its pity that so many officers are being wasted by being put on pride marches etc so they can post stupid grins on twitter feeds. You see so many officers just standing around watching the insulation protesters etc. Seeing as nothing is done to remove them then you only need a couple, not busloads. If its down as preventing possible crimes, well I would prefer to see them walk the beat especially at night.

Its not just get the govt, ss or nhs in order, its also down to whoever decides to waste officers time with the pointless ineffective crap too.