Page 9 | AIBU to not have the 4th covid jab ?

clovid · 2022-09-29T20:04:48+00:00

I've had all my covid vaccines up to date. I also had covid a few months ago.. I think I can get the next vaccine too if I want it. I was a bit surprised to be invited again.. Covid was just like a cold for me. I'm 35, have MS ( not on any medication and I don't really have any symptoms apart from fatigue ). So no disability from it, no trouble walking or anything in my body- except fatigue. I don't really want to have another vaccine. Is that unreasonable ?

MrsFezziwig · 30/09/2022 01:40

Felixfeather223 · 30/09/2022 01:23

@MrsFezziwig 😂 oh dear, I have slightly spammed this thread! I’m very pro vaccines- basically I see them like the medical equivalent of a having superpower like invincibility (to a point obvs) so I tend to get a bit carried away in these discussions

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Well, that’s fine by me! I don’t have particularly strong views but I hate misinformation and it seems as though that screenshot has been taken completely out of context. Much earlier in the thread someone mentioned it was attached to an article, I’d be really interested to know what the article purports to be about!

TheOnlyBeeInYourBonnet · 30/09/2022 01:41

I had unpleasant side effects from the first three. Like all of us I know dozens if not hundreds of people who've had covid and there's been no obvious pattern in their vaccine status vs severity of illness.

I'm not rushing out to get a fourth dose and won't unless it becomes compulsory for work/travel etc.

ThatWasThat · 30/09/2022 01:43

Not everyone get their just deserts but when it comes to science there is cause and effect, and while not every individual will reap the consequence of their actions, on average they will.

Marmite17 · 30/09/2022 01:44

Entirely up to you OP. I'll be having mine plus flu jab but have been fine afterwards.
Strangly, never, touch wood have had Co

Marmite17 · 30/09/2022 01:45

Covid. Screen flicked!

GatoradeMeBitch · 30/09/2022 01:46

I'm undecided. As far as I'm aware I've avoided C-19 so far - no idea how. I have been around people with covid, still didn't get a positive result or any symptoms.

But all three jabs made me feel wretched. I was sick with the first for three days, almost as bad for the third. Lots of lightning strike type headaches. My arm only stopped aching this summer. I'm unsure...

Chooksnroses · 30/09/2022 01:50

Your immunity will have declined, and that's the reason for revaccination. Covid is still around, and it's such a small thing to have done. Why would you not?

Unicorn2022 · 30/09/2022 01:51

What I don't understand is that the majority of people posting on this thread have had multiple covid jabs and boosters and many of them have had covid several times. So what's the point of the jab if you still get covid? And don't tell me "oh but the covid would have been so much worse if I was unvaccinated" as that's just speculation and there's no way of actually knowing that.

I remember going on holiday and having to get yellow fever and malaria jabs, among others. I would never have expected to contract any of those diseases after being vaccinated and would have considered the vaccine a failure if I had. But people have no such expectations of the covid jab.

Marmite17 · 30/09/2022 01:56

Been through phases of being pretty ill. Not well now, v dodgy stomach, sore throat, burning chest. Most likely acid reflux. But, test after contact with people who had tested Covid positive a couple of days later and always negative.
Wonder if I'm getting very mild illness tbh which isn't showing up.

mustbetheseasonofthewitch · 30/09/2022 02:02

Going against medical advice has really not worked out well for two women I know with MS. You may or may not have a headache after your fourth shot.

sallyanne10 · 30/09/2022 02:10

The biggy here is when you say you've just had Covid itself recently. This really should be giving you best protection of all.

miltonj · 30/09/2022 03:07

Anotherguy · 29/09/2022 22:01

Anyone not taking the vaccine is extremely arrogant, medical advice is to have it, by ignoring that you are basically saying you know better than the medical profession, absolute arrogance

Lol

mjf981 · 30/09/2022 03:44

I've had 3 and covid once. I'm also around hundreds of people daily so have been exposed many times over. Felt miserable after all vaccines, and I'm done now. I won't get vaccinated again unless a much more pathogenic strain emerges (unlikely).

Dishh · 30/09/2022 04:30

@clovid

They've said that I'm not at any greater risk than any other woman my age really.

They say that if you have MS, it's never great to have any infection, because it can cause a relapse. Especially if the infection is accompanied by a fever.

However, I've had so many colds and stomach bugs recently and I've not had any kind of relapse. Aside from increased fatigue, which they don't count as a relapse.

I'm guessing you have RRMS, OP?

You're correct in that illnesses/infections can cause relapses. I have MS and this has occurred to me many times. I simply wouldn't want to risk it. Covid can cause additional serious systemic issues that you really wouldn't want to handle in addition to your MS. In causing a relapse, Covid could also bring on new neurological symptoms you haven't experienced before - this means new lesions on the brain/spinal cord.

I do think it is best to protect yourself as much as you can. Any damage to the brain/spinal cord can't be repaired. Try to keep them as healthy as possible as long as you possible - my brain has too many lesions to count now.

Poppchipps · 30/09/2022 05:37

Jeez are they on to 4 and 5 now?!

I've had none. I've had Covid twice. Bad flu like symptoms, I still worked, felt crap for a while like any bad cold.

Most people I know who've had the vaccines have been hobbling about in pain after - and some have been severely ill.
I'll choose a few days of feeling like I have a bad cold instead!

Poppchipps · 30/09/2022 05:43

@Unicorn2022 Absolutely.

The endless "boosters" is just madness.

I'm unvaccinated and I've had Covid twice.
My mum has had every vaccine under the sun and has had Covid once.
We both had the same symptoms to the same level, still both worked from home, similar recovery time.

She'll be getting every other "booster" that appears because "It could have been much worse without the vaccine." Really?

Goosygandy · 30/09/2022 05:46

My son had long Covid after getting it in the summer and was really ill for weeks. He was perfectly healthy before. It's a myth that it is just like a cold. It's a calculated risk whatever you do, but the illness has always been a bigger risk than the vaccine, that's the point. It's up to you though, obviously.

MangyInseam · 30/09/2022 05:48

Given that you've had the actual infection recently, I wouldn't be particularly concerned with the booster which after all just simulates an infection. And probably a less current version of it too.

user16480478 · 30/09/2022 05:52

Unicorn2022 · 30/09/2022 01:51

What I don't understand is that the majority of people posting on this thread have had multiple covid jabs and boosters and many of them have had covid several times. So what's the point of the jab if you still get covid? And don't tell me "oh but the covid would have been so much worse if I was unvaccinated" as that's just speculation and there's no way of actually knowing that.

I remember going on holiday and having to get yellow fever and malaria jabs, among others. I would never have expected to contract any of those diseases after being vaccinated and would have considered the vaccine a failure if I had. But people have no such expectations of the covid jab.

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clovid · 30/09/2022 05:54

YorkshireYarns · 30/09/2022 00:04

I’m surprised you had the antiviral treatment if you aren’t on any immunosuppressive meds for your MS. I thought they were the trigger for the antivirals not MS itself.

It’s unusual not to be on treatment for MS itself these days - I assumed everyone was offered it, and you clearly aren’t completely anti medication if your had the other covid vaccs?

i think lots of people will be wary of the 4th vaccine .

I had a baby. So I wasn't on treatment because of that. I'm waiting to go back on treatment. So I'm currently not on treatment.

I didn't have antiviral, as I was pregnant when I had covid and they gave me an antibody drip instead.

I'm definitely not anti medicine AT ALL.

I'm just freaked out about getting very ill/ dying from having another vaccine. There is a small risk of that.

There's a small risk of dying from covid as well. I'm trying to weigh up which risk I want to take.

Someone says if you didn't have a bad reaction to the other covid vaccines, you're likely not to have a bad reaction to any more covid jabs. That's given me some hope. I'll do some more research.

I hesitating this time because I'm scared. I'll need to be methodical about it and look up the risk of a 35 year old woman being hospitalised / dying from covid vs the vaccine.

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Goosygandy · 30/09/2022 05:56

Unicorn2022 · 30/09/2022 01:51

What I don't understand is that the majority of people posting on this thread have had multiple covid jabs and boosters and many of them have had covid several times. So what's the point of the jab if you still get covid? And don't tell me "oh but the covid would have been so much worse if I was unvaccinated" as that's just speculation and there's no way of actually knowing that.

I remember going on holiday and having to get yellow fever and malaria jabs, among others. I would never have expected to contract any of those diseases after being vaccinated and would have considered the vaccine a failure if I had. But people have no such expectations of the covid jab.

All I can say is that I had Covid before I was vaccinated and was really ill for months with it. As I understand it one of the reasons you still get it even when vaccinated is that it's a virus that mutates so quickly, like a cold. Which is why we don't have cold vaccines and why we need a different flu jab every year. As someone who had really bad flu a few years ago, I certainly wouldn't miss out on my flu jab again, even though I need to have it annually. I've had Covid again since the jab and this time it really was like a bad cold.

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clovid · 30/09/2022 05:59

Dishh · 30/09/2022 04:30

@clovid

They've said that I'm not at any greater risk than any other woman my age really.

They say that if you have MS, it's never great to have any infection, because it can cause a relapse. Especially if the infection is accompanied by a fever.

However, I've had so many colds and stomach bugs recently and I've not had any kind of relapse. Aside from increased fatigue, which they don't count as a relapse.

I'm guessing you have RRMS, OP?

You're correct in that illnesses/infections can cause relapses. I have MS and this has occurred to me many times. I simply wouldn't want to risk it. Covid can cause additional serious systemic issues that you really wouldn't want to handle in addition to your MS. In causing a relapse, Covid could also bring on new neurological symptoms you haven't experienced before - this means new lesions on the brain/spinal cord.

I do think it is best to protect yourself as much as you can. Any damage to the brain/spinal cord can't be repaired. Try to keep them as healthy as possible as long as you possible - my brain has too many lesions to count now.

Yeah @Dishh, it's RRMS.

I guess I've just been ill so much the last year, including fevers and didn't get a relapse.. I feel like it's not that likely. My MRIs have also not changed. But yes, the risk is there that damage will be done.

The risk of that vs the risk of a deadly blood clot...

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clovid · 30/09/2022 06:05

Also if you've already had 3 vaccines and have had covid, your body does remember having covid.

You may not have antibodies flying around at all times l actively, but when your body encounters covid again, it will remember and make new antibodies from memory. ( T cell immunity ) I am no expert on this though obvs.

But everyone is talking about it like having covid and 3 vaccines means you have NO immunity at all. I don't think that's that's true.

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Belladonnamama · 30/09/2022 06:45

I've had 3 jabs. Don't think I will get the 4th. It's not being pushed at all where I live.

Dishh · 30/09/2022 07:05

@clovid

Yeah @Dishh, it's RRMS.

I guess I've just been ill so much the last year, including fevers and didn't get a relapse.. I feel like it's not that likely. My MRIs have also not changed. But yes, the risk is there that damage will be done.

The risk of that vs the risk of a deadly blood clot...

The risk of becoming ill after a Covid vaccine is much, much smaller than if you suffer the disease itself. It isn't a risk I was advised to take.