AIBU to not have the 4th covid jab ?

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I've had all my covid vaccines up to date. I also had covid a few months ago.. I think I can get the next vaccine too if I want it. I was a bit surprised to be invited again..

Covid was just like a cold for me.

I'm 35, have MS ( not on any medication and I don't really have any symptoms apart from fatigue ). So no disability from it, no trouble walking or anything in my body- except fatigue.

I don't really want to have another vaccine. Is that unreasonable ?

I’m sorry you consider yourself a ‘sheep’. I, on the other hand, am quite well informed about COVID and am aware that it is still killing a lot of people. I will continue to take up any opportunities for vaccination offered to me.

I’ve had three vaccines and am on day seven of my first time having Covid. I’m autoimmune and expected a real ordeal. While not fun, the UTI I had prior was far worse. I doubt I’ll get another booster. The third sent my autoimmune conditions haywire.

@VanillaImpulse it’s quite confusing from the way they’ve posted it but this appears to be the original text from 2020, it’s been superseded now by more evidence that this vaccine is both effective and safe for pregnant women.

It’s not unreasonable. And I say that as someone who wishes I could have it. I caught Covid after two jabs and was so very ill for months. It made my asthma do much worse. I wasn’t eligible for the third jab at the time because this gov threw asthma sufferers under a bus. So I got very il.

now despite worse asthma and long Covid… nope no fourth jab for me.

not Anyone with asthma who takes inhaled steroids every day. You need to have been prescribed two course of oral steroids in the last year. I took one course and refused the second because my body and stomach (Aldi wrecked by Covid) couldn’t handle another course. My dr agreed that while my lungs needed the second course I shouldn’t have it because I need to hold food down and build strength.

so I should be eligible for the booster but I’m not.

i can’t afford to lose another six months of earnings through extreme illness.

sorry I don’t know where that came from

I have MS and it sounds similar to yours. I have had all jabs offered and will continue to do so, as I do with flu vaccine every year. I haven't had any adverse reactions to vaccines so far.

YANBU - at all.
I have asthma and an autoimmune condition. For personal reasons I chose not to have any COVID vaccinations or boosters.
I caught COVID twice. Both times from my fully vaccinated work colleagues. It felt like a bad cold for me but I was able to WFH both times whereas some of my colleagues were really unwell. I think it's different for everyone and for that reason, people have a right to choose what's best for them.

@VanillaImpulse it’s quite confusing from the way they’ve posted it but this appears to be the original text from 2020, it’s been superseded now by more evidence that this vaccine is both effective and safe for pregnant women.

@Felixfeather223 it was updated on 16 August 2022...

@HansZimmerframe in what way do you think it doesn’t work? Most recent evidence I’ve read shows huge studies demonstrating it’s very effective against severe disease and death, but the immunity against infection and symptomatic Covid does wane over time (bit like cold which is another corona virus) so it’s worth getting a booster.

here’s the paper, n=7million (that’s a big old sample for anyone in doubt) bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-022-07418-y

Where did you find the 2020 date?
All I can see is the date that says updated 16th August 2022?

Yes the post was updated probably with links, but if you read closely it also states in the paragraph below that it’s the original text from the initial assessment in 2020. It is really confusing the way they’ve done it though.

Here is the link to the current WHO recommendations for that vaccine www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/who-can-take-the-pfizer-biontech-covid-19--vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

You will see they now recommend it as safe for breastfeeding and pregnant women.

Your choice. Presumably you'll be a private patient if you need hospital treatment for covid?

@VanillaImpulse

Up to date?
The screenshot is from the technical document written in December 2020 at the time of regulatory approval. It has since undergone various updates. No-one is denying that vaccination was not initially advised for pregnant women.

The GOV.UK website gives up to date advice to pregnant women about Covid vaccination.

@MrsFezziwig follow the link and you will find that "screenshot". It was taken just before I posted it, it is on there now

It’s in a grey box just below the index on that page:

“The Public Assessment Report summarises the initial assessment at the time of approval in December 2020. The text in the original report remains unchanged.

Our advice is regularly updated on the basis of significant new data and our latest advice can be found in the Summary of Product Characteristics and the Summary of Coronavirus Yellow Card reporting.”

@VanillaImpulse that date is misleading unfortunately, see my previous post. It’s the original text, the “update” on the post is probably links to the more up to date research

@Felixfeather223 you’re clearly a much faster typist than me!

I would be having it if I had the chance. You might have only had cold like symptoms the first time. But there's no guarantee you will the second time. A friend of mines grandson now has to be tubefed for the rest of his life because of covid. He caught it just before it was his turn for the first jab. He has epilepsy but was otherwise fit and well before.

I’m having it. Of course ; why wouldn’t I want to protect myself?
I’ve had Covid twice this year (from work, I reckon), and the first time was like a mild cold - but this second time…. Oh my god. There was one night I genuinely thought I might be dying. I was really sick for about 10 days, and now, three weeks later, I still feel wiped out.
Once my 4 weeks are up, I’m going for my booster/flu jab.

Oh, and I meant to say, I reckon my first case was mild, because my immunity was still high from last year’s booster. This time was only a few weeks short of a year from having the booster, so my immunity was probably lessened.

@MrsFezziwig 😂 oh dear, I have slightly spammed this thread! I’m very pro vaccines- basically I see them like the medical equivalent of a having superpower like invincibility (to a point obvs) so I tend to get a bit carried away in these discussions

@HollaHolla that sounds very rough, hope you feel better soon, so annoying how easy it is to get reinfected ☹️

I have followed the link. The report dates from December 2020 when the Pfizer vaccine was first approved and the advice at that time was that pregnant women should not be vaccinated. As I stated it is a regulatory document and I would think that the text cannot be changed, only updates made (of which there are many).

Current advice can be found on the GOV.UK page: Covid-19 vaccine: advice on pregnancy and breastfeeding. It is also on the NHS website. Both advise vaccination for pregnant women.

I've not had any.
Have I missed the train? In the year 2047 will I need to have all the 194 boosters to take my grandchildren to Pizza Hut?
How about the grandchildren themselves? Which level do they get in on?

So confused. I'd like to have this one but all the invites have stopped long time ago....I think I have been blacklisted.

Sooooo confused. I can "get in on" the flu jab though. It's at least something I suppose...

I've had Covid. Can I go in at Level 4? Can I hand myself in somewhere? So many questions...

I'm not even antivaxx. I just couldn't be arsed to start with.

It’s entirely up to you!

Ive just had my forth one and have to admit to feeling a bit rough a day or so afterwards.

I have a tip though, to have the vax in the morning (which I did with no 4) rather than afternoon as I did with the other three. Apparently most people get their side effects between 12-24 hours later, so it worked out that I felt worst in the middle of the night when I could sleep through it (obviously I did wake up to know I was feeling rough) and wasn’t so bad the next day. Whereas when I had it in the afternoon, I had a day of feeling fluey the following day.

Worked for me. I prefer to be able to schedule in a day (or night) of feeling crappy than to get ill at an unpredictable time. So far, I had original Wuhan Covid back in April 2020 - really unwell for a good couple of weeks- and then not had it at all since.

Slept in the same bed as my son in June when he had Covid and didn’t catch it - massive bedroom windows were open though.

@MrsMorrisey in what way do they not work? Latest evidence is that they are very effective against infection and symptomatic Covid, with these waning over 4 months (hence the need for boosters) and very effective long term against severe acute illness and death. This is why the death rate and hospitalisation for Covid has decreased despite there being a lot of it around.
No vaccine is 100% effective and for most of them effectiveness wanes over time.
Here’s a good systematic review showing this: bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-022-07418-y