AIBU to not have the 4th covid jab ?

[clovid]

I've had all my covid vaccines up to date. I also had covid a few months ago.. I think I can get the next vaccine too if I want it. I was a bit surprised to be invited again..

Covid was just like a cold for me.

I'm 35, have MS ( not on any medication and I don't really have any symptoms apart from fatigue ). So no disability from it, no trouble walking or anything in my body- except fatigue.

I don't really want to have another vaccine. Is that unreasonable ?

Yeah I've been offered one because of my career/job, I'm 32, I won't be having it.

I had astrazenica 2 doses was fine, then I had that spikevax/moderna one, bloody hell I was rough after that one! Never again.

I've not had covid, never caught it, tested daily for work and I was frontline working with covid + people before there was a vaccine. Everyone else around me caught it not me.

But also oddly nobody in my immediate family has had it either, me, my mum, my nan, my son or my brother. Despite loads of people around us testing positive 🤷🏻‍♀️

My brother's wife was positive and he lived with her still didn't get it.

My mother's a secondary school teacher too, she was like the only staff member in at one point because she never tested positive 🤣

Maybe we have like a random family immunity 🤣

Jut had mine. Slightly sore arm - had flu jab at the same time and that arm is worse.

Are you having your flu jab @clovid ?
If so why not the Covid jab?

If not are you just anti all vaccines?
If you didn’t have the vaccine would you expect the same anti virals etc if you caught Covid that you had before or would you refuse treatment then too?

If you have MS you are eligible for the antiviral drugs if you get covid, my exh had tested positive twice this year & has had them twice, I would still have the covid jab as a precaution. Are you on disease modifying drugs for your MS?

@rickandmorts sorry I didn’t tag you to the other post

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/pregnancy-breastfeeding-fertility-and-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination/

I'm really surprised at the number of people putting their foot down at the thought of having to get another vaccine. It's quite refreshing to see people starting to wake up to this utter nonsense. They don't work. There are serious risks that were firstly denied and now starting to come out of the woodwork.

The people that chose to question their safety and decided against getting them during the first round were bullied, called disgusting things, labelled anti-vaxers, had friendships ruined, banned from social media platforms and silenced. And now so many people saying enough is enough.

I have a question for those of you who are saying no to this booster - how would you feel if in 6 months you were all considered unvaccinated and you were risking the health of the entire country by mixing in public. You were banished from some public places, and barred from going on holiday unless you were forced to get the jabs required (could be one or more) to bring you up to 'fully vaccinated' status again?

Seems pretty bonkers doesn't it??

@Thatboymum interested to know which neurological condition was triggered?

I haemorrhaged after getting the booster. I’ve no intention of getting another vaccine.

Was there a date on the screenshot? I think it would have been the correct advice when the vaccines first came out but has been superseded now. WHO advice from August 2022 also tallies with greying’s link.

@rickandmorts I'm 34 weeks also unsure what to do

@Berlinlover as in you had a period or?

@clovid so that response was pretty direct! but I think realistically you have to weigh the benefits and risks of getting Covid again versus getting another vaccine rather than the risks of getting vaccine versus not getting vaccine or Covid.

I think if it’s on offer to you it will be for a good reason. Your immunity from both vaccination and infection will have waned and will continued to wane significantly through the winter. With each reinfection of Covid your risk of long Covid seems to increase, I imagine long Covid could be particularly difficult for you given your main MS symptom is fatigue. The rates of infection are very high and likely to remain so, so there’s both a good chance you could get it again, and a increased risk of long Covid, and probably increased inconvenience if you already have a long term illness.

In terms of risks, all medical interventions have real risks and typically short term side effects, but if you didn’t suffer a severe reaction before the chances are very good that you won’t have a severe reaction again.

Personally I got another booster and a flu shot because I really wanted them in advance of a hospital stay. No side effects, just a sore arm. I’m not particularly at risk of complications but I know a few people who have long Covid and it just doesn’t feel worth the risk to me. However, that’s just me, as a general rule I am extremely pro vaccine, I’d probably take any I was offered because I think they are the best and safest medical interventions ever invented and the diseases they protect against are usually fairly consequential. I think if you got long Covid this time round you’d probably really regret not getting the booster.

I’m 46 and don’t get periods anymore.

@tha fun fact, leeches are still used for microsurgery, they are very effective

As a midwife can I ask why? I have seen women end up in ITU extremely ill with covid.

That is seriously worrying advice she has given you unless there is a very good reason for it.

Yes

Sounds fine to me.

I've never had a covid vaccine, never had covid and currently working abroad for a few weeks with no requirement anymore for vaccination status or lateral flow testing.

Yes. Thank you.

All the people saying this midwife is an idiot might want to look up the information on the gov's own website about the safety of the vaccine for pregnant women. The midwife is actually staying up to date with knowledge!

www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/summary-public-assessment-report-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

I completely agree @MrsFezziwig - my two DC are autistic so we have been arguing for years against the bullshit “MMR jab causes autism” nonsense, and now this.

I’m classed as a carer for my two, so I get offered the covid jabs. I’m 46 so would t qualify otherwise - I am grateful to have the opportunity of the extra protection.

HansZimmerframe · Today 00:14
I'm really surprised at the number of people putting their foot down at the thought of having to get another vaccine.

No-one has to put their foot down because surprise surprise, it’s not compulsory.

It is in Australia in Health

I've just had my 4th. Felt ok. The usual sore arm and felt tired for a couple of days but having seen a couple of people with long covid I would rather have the vaccination.

🙄🙄🙄 ok, let me clarify so you understand...

Going against the grain. Does that make more sense for you?

If I was you and I had MS I would have it. Personally I won't have another booster unless forced by work because I've felt terrible after every jab. It's unlike any other vaccine I've had and I have the flu one annually for work.

So is it perfectly acceptable to mandate Covid vaccination in health?
And don't use the argument that others are compulsory. That's fine cos they work!
Australia has massive nurse shortages and are importing Asian nurses who can't speak English well. That's ok?