Jack Monroe off Twitter

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The latest in the ongoing saga is that JM has left Twitter after being 'hounded off'. The incident that seemed to provoke this...someone critiquing a photo of her mums roast potatoes. It just gets more and more bizarre.

To be clear, I don't like to see public pile ons and some of the abuse directed at Jack has been unpleasant. But a lot has also been reasonable, polite requests for information regarding her patreon which have largely been totally ignored. And her supporters have to be some of the most cruel people on Twitter. It seems like it's fine for JM to voice her opinion but as soon as others do the same they are called out for bullying. And ironically subjected to vile comments from her followers. Go figure.

Am I the only one who thinks she's probably best having a little Twitter break? But eventually if she's ever to redeem her reputation she needs to show some transparency regarding public donations.

She's responded - apparently when she said "the landlady lets me paint and decorate as I want to" what she actually meant was "the landlady lets me repaint in the white that was already here".

I posted earlier about her haircut and her sleazing over the Turkish barber etc and when I read it as a post I thought it sounded so spiteful and unkind I was ashamed of it and asked for it to be deleted - I was actually feeling sorry for her because she very obviously has few or no friends and has very possibly alienated her family, and she is so desperate for attention it is embarrassing. Honestly - if a man posted about a woman the way she has been commenting on this barber, people would be furious with him. There are 14 year olds with more maturity.

Now I'm reading some of her tweets and wish I'd let it stand. She doesn't deserve any consideration - her behaviour is appalling.

I'm glad her son's father is a good parent to him. He needs someone in his life who can be relied on.

I don't know how people like her get away with it - I really don't.

She's trending, the predictable suicide crumbing in response to being called out again.

She also had a light on in one of her photos, looks like she has had a windfall since her blogpost a couple of months ago and has not only put them back in but can afford to switch them on!

@Emotionalsupportviper I thought that post was absolutely hilarious, you could write for Private Eye.

I must say this is the best explanation I have read about why things are off with her.

It also gave me flashbacks to the awful poverty porn shows of the 2010s including Cant pay, take it Away etc.

I was on income support at that time and she did not speak for me. I tried her recipes and would be upset with myself that they weren't working.

I managed to get myself off income support and into employment and cannot fantom how she is always complaining about being in poverty. She could've gotten a normal job years ago buts its as if she gets out of poverty then she will no longer have an act to sell.

Oh - you saw it!

Thank you! I did think it was cruel of me, though - don't sink to her level etc, but I wish I hadn't had a twinge of conscience now. 😄

She depends on twinges of conscience. She's a brilliant manipulator I'll give her that.

What are you all going to do if she eventually does attempt suicide?

Fein innocence? Pretend you've only told the truth?

Obviously I know 'Be Kind' means absolutely nothing on Mumsnet, that's been obvious for years , but seriously, do we really need a thread this huge persecuting one person?

It matters not how dishonest you think she is. You're all entitled to think that way. Is there really a need for such a hate campaign though?

I guess this dangerous pile on is fine with mumsnet HQ..it's only their mates like Kate McCann that get protection.

Just have a think please .

Let's just all shhhh about a scammer who scammed enough to buy a flat (most likely) and tens of thousands in stuff.

I doubt she will - she's a survivor - and probably at the expense of many others.

I wonder what she would do if she found out that one of the many people she grifted from had taken their lives? Turn it round to be about her, no doubt. I know that's a horrible thing to say, but she has taken many people's trauma and made their dreadful experiences her own, so I don't think she'd do anything differently.

I think that as @Appleandcarrots says she has got herself enough capital to buy herself a property outright - or has found someone to fund her (her dad?). She's been careful to imply she's renting, but hasn't stated it outright - to me that suggests she's buying somewhere. How many landlords can you think of who will rent to someone with pets - one of them a dog the size of a small donkey? Demand for homes is high - landlords can afford to be picky.

However, if she admitted that she was buying it would look pretty bad when she has been holding out a tin cup for loose change until very, very recently, and claiming that she has been too poor to buy shower gel and had to boil soap.

A thread on a forum isn’t a ‘hate campaign’. Jack would only read this if she seeks it out, and there’s no reason for her to do that.

What are you all going to do if she eventually does attempt suicide?

Absolutely nothing.
If she attempts suicide it'll be because of the choices she has made. People are only pointing her own choices out to her.
If she chooses to scam people and lie, that's her decision. Any mental strain or stress or anxiety she may be feeling is because of those choices.

She should stop twitter, delete it all, delete patron out our a press release and apologise profusely for taking people's money and spreading false narratives to illicit emotion response and donations. All anxieties and stress she may be under would immediately vanish.

So take your blame game and blame the person deciding to perpetuate the situation, not the people pointing the situation out.

Incredibly odd woman. Overactive imagination, bleating middle class drama queen, pronouns then no pronouns, queer, straight, gay, straight again, utter bullshitter who seeks constant praise for being a middle class single parent with millionaire parents. Hasn't got a clue and would be well advised to try living in a high rise, raising a child alone on benefits surrounded by addicts, poverty and no support. That's tough. She's a tit and hopefully does not return to Twitter.

You're not wrong.

It absolutely does matter if she's been taking money meant for charity to line her own pockets @Fairydoors

I feel a bit sorry for her. I think the Molly stuff was eye opening but overall I think she really needs validation - when she kept posting in the beauty FB group it felt really regular and a bit needy (of course people were a bit awed by a sleb and praised her) and on Twitter she doesn't seem to cope with any implied or direct criticism.
I think there's a lot going on, and I hope she does achieve stability. I don't feel like her main aim is cold scamming.

I get so angry at her - the way she has treated people - the lies, the poverty-porn, the doubling down, the refusal to take any responsibility for her own actions, the HORIBLR recipes - everything about her.

i think she's a very unhappy woman, and I pity her for it, but not as much as I pity the people she has taken advantage of.

Only she can change her attitude, and until she does she will continue to have her own lies thrown back at her. She has said that her son manages her Twitter account - or accesses it at any rate. She knows this, yet posts stuff no child should read about his mother.

@VioletLemon is right - she should step away from social media for his sake and her own.

What are you all going to do if she eventually does attempt suicide?

Literally zero do I want her to absolutely not, not ever. But by same token not my problem Its all on her but she would never anyhow.

But eventually you have to make up with your bullshit, either deny it or admit you are full of it

*HORRIBLE - not whatever that monstrosity above was. Sorry

So no-one should criticise someone's behaviour and words online, even if they think it's harmful and potentially scamming others?

Everyone should just look the other way when someone continually contradicts themselves while asking for money?

It's not a pile-on here - it's a discussion of what she has said and done. She's not here being attacked, she would have to seek the thread out. A pile-on is when someone gets their followers to attack other accounts, like, oh, she's done multiple times, not caring who the other person is or what their vulnerabilities are.

Fairydoors what is so special about her that makes her above all questioning and criticism? Because that's essentially what you're saying here.

Or are we never to question or discuss anyone's negative behaviour again in case feelings are hurt?

She frequently weaponises her health to avoid criticism.

She's shameless

I'm autistic and have an autoimmune condition.

I have never taken regular payments from people online for zero content.

It's a flimsy deflection.

If she had any remorse she’d pause the Patreon whilst she catches up but the apology was her usual manipulation of poor me and referring to £2k per month ( likely a whole lot more ) for zero effort as a small income shows you imo the sort of person she is

@Fairydoors

Obviously I know 'Be Kind' means absolutely nothing on Mumsnet, that's been obvious for years , but seriously, do we really need a thread this huge persecuting one person?

Did you ask JM to 'be kind' when JM was taking around £2k a month for the last two years via patreon, in return for quite literally nothing that was promised? Not anything at all in fact. Zilch. For context, that's £24,000 a year. For entirely nothing.

Patrons did operate under 'be kind' when they asked JM, kindly, for an update on what was happening, for months on end. JM ignored them. Not for a month, or two, or three... for two years. Then JM apologised, behind the Patreon paywall.

JM has repeatedly and gleefully driven social media followers to go after JM's detractors, critics or perceived competitors. Has behaved like a bully repeatedly.

If you read Awfully Molly's summary, you'd be asking where JM's own 'be kind' attitude has been.