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I hate foxes

204 replies

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 07:31

Honestly I HATE them. I mean I know they look sort of nice but they are just awful. I've taken to trying to shoot them with a super soaker like a crazy woman not that it makes any bloody difference.
They scream all night, that horrible noise that sounds like someone being murdered. They have figured out how to get into our 'fox proof' food waste bins so we often go out to see manky bits of food strewn around. And if we manage to keep ours somewhere they can't get to it then a neighbour will have probably forgotten so it will still be up the pavement. We had to stop using the milkman because they figured out how to knock the milk bottles over so the foil lid would be dislodged and then milk would go everywhere and stink, and they'd probably only lick a little bit of it and just leave the rest in a big smelly puddle, they terrorise my poor cat, they dig my grass and they like to mark their territory with diarrhoea. Leaving little pools of it on our stuff. There's a load which has gone partly on the wall, then run down it and pooled at the bottom this morning. Ugh. Any ideas how I can get the little fuckers to bugger off? We've tried those noise things now and they make no difference.
There is a massive problem in this area. If you remember the news story where a fox went into a house and killed a baby a few years back that wasn't far from here...
Help!

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StickywithSuncream · 26/09/2022 13:44

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 12:57

I think most of the people on this thread who love foxes probably haven't got much experience of London ones tbh.

I live in inner London and we have loads of foxes in the area, they cross my garden wall daily, and I love them, so.... 🤷‍♀️

My experience is that they know how to peacefully coexist with us and live very close by, without drawing too much attention to themselves, so they're left alone.

LucyInTheSkyWithDiamond · 26/09/2022 13:44

Ludo19 · 26/09/2022 13:42

Big fox fan. No experience of London foxes but surely an urban fox is an urban fox ?

Nah, the London ones pickpocket you on the tube and tut at you if you forget to stand on the right

Ludo19 · 26/09/2022 13:49

@LucyInTheSkyWithDiamond

Wow! Very different to the ones here in Central Scotland then 😁

Hoppinggreen · 26/09/2022 13:50

Soubriquet · 26/09/2022 08:22

I love foxes. One of my favourite animals

I also don’t believe the fox killed the baby

same here

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 26/09/2022 14:32

LucyInTheSkyWithDiamond · 26/09/2022 13:44

Nah, the London ones pickpocket you on the tube and tut at you if you forget to stand on the right

and their Dens are considerably more expensive than those foxes who are living in the Home Counties..

Rockingcloggs · 26/09/2022 14:44

Personally I would swap every single person in the world except my family (obvs!) for foxes. They are beautiful and I still get excited when they come into my garden. The most beautiful things on the planet.

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 14:55

You're more than welcome to mine if you want them @Rockingcloggs

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Rockingcloggs · 26/09/2022 14:57

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 14:55

You're more than welcome to mine if you want them @Rockingcloggs

Absolutely! I'll swap them for the cats that come in too!

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 26/09/2022 15:06

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 12:57

I think most of the people on this thread who love foxes probably haven't got much experience of London ones tbh.

Yes... Those pesky London foxes HmmGrin

HouseOfEssex · 26/09/2022 15:17

I've hated them ever since I saw what they did to a field of lambs on the livery yard I was at. Other people kept tripping the humane traps so the farmer strung up the lamb bodies for all to see. The foxes had just killed them for fun

WagathaChristieMystery · 26/09/2022 15:24

I love them but am very lucky not to have had any particular problems with them so far.

My main worry is your poor cat, and I really sympathise with you, as I’ve had cats and always get nervous about whether they’ll have a run-in with foxes. Do the foxes come into your garden during the day? If not, hopefully things should all be okay, as long as you let your cat in before it gets too dark and try not to let him/her out until it’s light-ish the next day - say, 6 or 7am?

On the bins and milk front, and the fox poop front, I also really feel for you there, but think there’s definitely solutions to explore! Is there any way you could get a more secure set of bins? I know it’s a pain to spend more money and time to look for new bins when you shouldn’t have to, but it will likely be worth it in the long run. I can’t advise on which bins to go for, but wonder if others on this thread can?

And re the milk deliveries, can you buy a zippable cool bag, perhaps with a bottle rack inside, so the bottles don’t knock around too much, and ask your milkman to leave the bottles in there, so the foxes can’t get at them?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 26/09/2022 15:42

HouseOfEssex · 26/09/2022 15:17

I've hated them ever since I saw what they did to a field of lambs on the livery yard I was at. Other people kept tripping the humane traps so the farmer strung up the lamb bodies for all to see. The foxes had just killed them for fun

No. No they didn't... Jesus Christ

Fucking hell the complete bullshit spouted on here

HouseOfEssex · 26/09/2022 15:44

@AllThingsServeTheBeam There were at least 10 lambs that had been killed and no part of them eaten. Please educate me. Why did the foxes do that?

catmania · 26/09/2022 15:46

I absolutely love foxes. I volunteer as a hunt monitor and cannot abide the cruelty and vilification directed at these gorgeous animals who are just living their life that obviously bothers some people. Hunts still continue under the guise of trail hunting but that is an utter lie. I have seen first hand the cruelty involved, not just to foxes but the hunts own hounds. Hearing a fox being torn apart while still alive is heart wrenching.

If nature bothers you so much go and live in a sterile bubble and you might be happy.

CeltictigerMum · 26/09/2022 15:47

Human male urine will deterr them. Get someone (partner or other adult) to pee around the boundary to your house, or collect wee in a jug throughout the day( to avoid neighbours seeing the said male peeing !) then sprinkle all around outside before you go to bed . It honestly works really well !! We've had foxes in out garden and this stopped them. You need to carry on with it for a while though so they gont return. They were gone from ours from day one of pee sprinkling.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 26/09/2022 15:47

HouseOfEssex · 26/09/2022 15:44

@AllThingsServeTheBeam There were at least 10 lambs that had been killed and no part of them eaten. Please educate me. Why did the foxes do that?

They kill them and then come back for them one at a time and take them to their 'larder' as it were.

I have yet to meet a fox with a trolley. Their mouths are only so big. If they get interrupted then they obviously don't fetch them all.

Wtf point would killing 10 lambs be to a wild animal that needs to hunt?!?

And you are aware of what the vermin that are humans do to these lambs?

PinkButtercups · 26/09/2022 15:55

I don't like them either but our housing estate was built on their home and it makes me sad how many I see around here at night. I see at least 4 a night.

thinkfast · 26/09/2022 15:59

Reading this thread and the diversity of opinions I was thinking people's experience of foxes must be so very different. But then I remembered our neighbour a few doors down hand feeds foxes, so must be encountering the same ones as me. So it must be down to personal choice. They look cute but they stink.

From my perspective it's the sheer number of foxes here that's the main problem. If it were the occasional one or two and the occasional shit in the garden, I don't think I'd mind. Instead we have the following:

We cannot go into our front or back garden without carefully checking where we step.

We frequently have to clean up sloppy fox shit from our deck and garden furniture. This stuff is not possible to clean up from our lawn. It is incredibly stinky and sticky. They spray it round to mark their territory. Their piss stinks too.

In the mornings, and then from dusk onwards we often see foxes in our garden. Sometimes several. In the summer they sleep on our lawn. They chew and destroy our plants and possessions. We've had to replace a garden fence as it simply buckled under the weight of large foxes scrambling over it several times a day.

They are not scared of us. If we go near them they do not move away.

We have not had a single apple from our apple tree since it was planted 10 years ago. Foxes have had all of them.

They leave rubbish in our back garden. This can range from half a pigeon, a takeaway food container with chips spread around, Strangers' shoes, clothing, children's toys.

They are incredibly incredibly noisy, it is not unusual to have upwards of 10 foxes outside the front of our house. There is a public bin a few doors up, and it is a fox hang out zone. They extract the rubbish and leave it strewn in the road. They fight noisily over it.

On either side our neighbours have dogs who bark noisily when the foxes are outside.

We had a lovely nest of birds in a small in our garden. While we were sitting on our deck, a fox came into the garden, reached up and knocked the nest down. It ran off with a chick in its mouth.

It's fucking terrifying when you're having your breakfast in your kitchen and there's a couple of large foxes sitting at your garden door staring at you through the glass!

Tbh if they didn't shit everywhere I could put up with the rest.

Nothing seems to deter them.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 26/09/2022 16:02

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 12:57

I think most of the people on this thread who love foxes probably haven't got much experience of London ones tbh.

I live in the country, and I dislike foxes My farming ancestors hated foxes as they killed not only chickens, geese and turkeys but young lambs.

my friend lost all her geese, that she was rearing to make some Christmas money when the fox somehow broke into her apparently secure enclosure. It looked as if it had just run against the fence continuously until he managed to get in.

I was quite upset by the lamb’s leg ( with fur and hoof still attached) which the fox left on my doorstep.

it’s a pity they don’t go after the grey squirrels of which we have an infestation. Like to like I suppose.

Faciadipasta · 26/09/2022 16:04

All these people saying foxes don't attack! They definitely do. Why not just Google it? There have been quite a lot of news reports of people getting attacked by foxes in their homes over the last 10 years. I was wrong about the story of the baby getting killed. I'm sorry I remembered that wrongly but there are plenty of reports of people being injured and the baby WAS attacked. She lost a finger and had to have surgery to re-attach it.

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Eggcupy · 26/09/2022 16:08

Well said @AllThingsServeTheBeam I t is more likely they were unable to take them away. They do return for them (speaks from experience), though chickens rather than lambs in my case.

They are not scared of us. If we go near them they do not move away.

Not unusual for the urban fox.

thinkfast · 26/09/2022 16:16

Those of you who love them so much, could you please explain why.

Crunchymum · 26/09/2022 16:26

We have an issue with urban foxes here.

The noise and the mess (their piss and shit and the mess the leave when they do get into rubbish bags) is constant.

Generally people have lidded bins and don't put actual bags out until early on bin day we get weekly collections - yay but we can't leave bins out on the street it has to be bin bags only and the fucking foxes come by once the rubbish is out. I put mine out at 6.30am and by 6.45 I am chasing some wily little shit out of the bags.

My almost 10yo DC has an affinity for foxes (as he does for pigeons - the more manky they are the more affinity he has) in that they didn't ask to be urban foxes / city pigeons living off of our scraps and being hated and they are just being the animals they are. So I can't hate them too much.

Gooseysgirl · 26/09/2022 16:34

YANBU

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 26/09/2022 17:03

thinkfast · 26/09/2022 16:16

Those of you who love them so much, could you please explain why.

Because they're better than most people

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