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To ask parents in law not to use racist slurs around DC

107 replies

OneLittleLamb · 25/09/2022 16:25

DC (twins) are only 6 months but have used slurs around them such as ch*nky (to describe someone from Asian decent) and sometimes discusses black people in casually racist ways.

DP says babies are too young to know right now but I feel it's setting a precedent. How do I address this? It makes me feel sick tbh

OP posts:
properdoughnut · 25/09/2022 18:26

They shouldn't even be saying it around you ffs

MessyBunPersonified · 25/09/2022 18:27

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 25/09/2022 18:24

@MessyBunPersonified Again, I recounted an experience with a particular group of people, at a particular time, so no, not all Scottish people -- however hard you try.

👍 🙄

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/09/2022 18:27

That's the issue here, not that he has racist relatives, it's that he doesn't do anything about it.

That would be my take too. No one says that crap in my house or near my child. But I'm not divorcing DH because his dad said something shitty in his own house which both DH and I challenged him on and he apologised.

hattie43 · 25/09/2022 18:28

VladmirsPoutine · 25/09/2022 18:05

Do people vet peoples family for racism before deciding to stay together?

Yes. I know you're attempting to be facetious but the answer to your question is yes.

Hilarious

Shall we all get personality questionnaires filled out and how wide a family member shall we go to , uncle , Nan , great aunt Ethel twice removed ?
Should we all get formal psychology qualifications so we can route out anyone hiding their true feelings .

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/09/2022 18:30

Should we all get formal psychology qualifications so we can route out anyone hiding their true feelings .

It's generally not that hard. And if they're hiding it, great. It can stay in their heads.

FurAndFeathers · 25/09/2022 18:32

OneLittleLamb · 25/09/2022 16:32

@AnneLovesGilbert no, every time I hear it I come away (pre babies) and rant at DP about it because I find it vile. He gets it but he just thinks let them get on with it. However now twins are here it's another level for me.

I knew the answer to this, I think I just needed to hear from others

You chose to have children with a man who believes that racists ‘should be left to get on with it’?

wow!

he sounds delightful

candycaneframe · 25/09/2022 18:32

@hattie43

Why do you find it hilarious that some people have 0 tolerance towards racism?

As a civilised society we should all have no tolerance towards racism.

The OPs husband tolerates racism, the OP is tolerating racism. And for most that would be a relationship ender.

AnuSTart · 25/09/2022 18:33

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 25/09/2022 16:47

Are you in Scotland OP? I have only ever heard one of those words casually used in reference to a takeaway meal 'we're having an x tonight.' Not maligning Scotland as a whole btw, just a one off experience. If it is in context like the above do they recognize that it's racist, rather than just being a term for that particular thing IYSWIM? I would tell DH that you will not move on this and then let him deal with it.

How utterly ironic. Do you realise this? Are you being disingenuous?

I am from Scotland and moved to the south of England for work, where I heard this said at the office. I had to ask my very English colleagues not to use such terminology.

Good grief.

And yes everyone knows a racist. It's up to you OP where you draw the line.

FurAndFeathers · 25/09/2022 18:33

hattie43 · 25/09/2022 18:28

Hilarious

Shall we all get personality questionnaires filled out and how wide a family member shall we go to , uncle , Nan , great aunt Ethel twice removed ?
Should we all get formal psychology qualifications so we can route out anyone hiding their true feelings .

Do you seriously think you need formal psychology qualifications to know that racist slurs = racism?
you sound a bit dim tbh.

it’s really not that difficult.

hattie43 · 25/09/2022 18:39

candycaneframe · 25/09/2022 18:32

@hattie43

Why do you find it hilarious that some people have 0 tolerance towards racism?

As a civilised society we should all have no tolerance towards racism.

The OPs husband tolerates racism, the OP is tolerating racism. And for most that would be a relationship ender.

Because it is beyond ridiculous to suggest OP leaves her husband because of his relatives . Everyone has a relative they aren't proud of so should we all divorce . Daft

candycaneframe · 25/09/2022 18:42

@hattie43

Who has said she should leave her husband because he has racist relatives

She should leave because he tolerates racism, to be honest she should have never had children or married someone who tolerates racism. As it makes him just as bad as them, and the OP tolerating it is also shit.

There is a very clear and pretty obvious difference there which you seem unable to understand

ThinWomansBrain · 25/09/2022 18:42

It's not just that they use such appaling language - presumably they think like that too? - and concerning that "D"H thinks it's OK.

Personally would have been v low or no contact from the start - but would definitely do that now, and let them know why. Let "D"H visit them on his own

Thelnebriati · 25/09/2022 18:43

I'd find it really hard to believe they are doing this innocently, surely no one today thinks its OK (including your DP) I wonder if they are trying to provoke a row?

Whataretheodds · 25/09/2022 18:47

OneLittleLamb · 25/09/2022 16:30

Exactly. It makes me cringe so much. I think il just call it out next time despite the awkwardness

Far more awkward to handle when (not if) your DC start repeating those slurs in public.

VladmirsPoutine · 25/09/2022 18:50

Why have you name-changed to make this thread? It's hardly got an outing storyline?

ElephantsintheCupboard · 25/09/2022 18:53

hattie43 · 25/09/2022 17:03

Next time you hear it I'd just say that language is not appropriate these days and you don't want your DC's picking it up or they could be in trouble at nursery etc etc .

I think that is wise. It is a fact that what words that are considered racist do change with time. Older people can't always keep up with what is considered racist or know what terminology to use instead . That is not an excuse for racism.

Although of course some people that use those words are actually racist!

FurAndFeathers · 25/09/2022 19:11

ElephantsintheCupboard · 25/09/2022 18:53

I think that is wise. It is a fact that what words that are considered racist do change with time. Older people can't always keep up with what is considered racist or know what terminology to use instead . That is not an excuse for racism.

Although of course some people that use those words are actually racist!

Oh good! A nice dose of ageism too.

please do tell us at what age does using ‘chinky’ become acceptable because you’re unable to figure out what the appropriate term is?

Westfacing · 25/09/2022 19:17

At 68 I'm probably older than the OP's parents and have never used racist language; nor did my mother who died aged 92.

Some things don't need to be learned - you just know.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/09/2022 19:36

Older people can't always keep up with what is considered racist or know what terminology to use instead

My grandmother, who would have been over 100 now, didn't tolerate racism. And she used to call it out in others. Memorably when I had a Nigerian boyfriend as a 20 yo. The shit she gave my Aunt who made a comment... It was something to behold.

Terminology is the smoke screen. People pretend it's about that. But no one used or uses P@ki shop or going for a Ch1nky without knowing full well it's racist. It was racist 30 plus years ago FFS. Unless you live under a rock, you know. It's not the same as not knowing if 'PoC' or 'Black British people' is preferred.

ElephantsintheCupboard · 25/09/2022 19:36

FurAndFeathers · 25/09/2022 19:11

Oh good! A nice dose of ageism too.

please do tell us at what age does using ‘chinky’ become acceptable because you’re unable to figure out what the appropriate term is?

I have no idea. It's not particularly easy for people who aren't using the internet, don't particularly keep up with the news or modern life to just "work it out". How do you suggest people do that?

Lesina · 25/09/2022 19:42

You don’t ask. You tell. You also tell them if they persist in using abusive racist language they will not be around your children ever.

FurAndFeathers · 25/09/2022 19:42

ElephantsintheCupboard · 25/09/2022 19:36

I have no idea. It's not particularly easy for people who aren't using the internet, don't particularly keep up with the news or modern life to just "work it out". How do you suggest people do that?

Who are these mythical people? 🤔
it doesn’t appear from the info in the OP that the in laws are off-grid ignoramuses with no concept of terms such as ‘Chinese’ rather than Chinky.

honestly assuming racists have to be old just shows your own prejudice -
ageist and a racism-excuser.

ElephantsintheCupboard · 25/09/2022 19:48

FurAndFeathers · 25/09/2022 19:42

Who are these mythical people? 🤔
it doesn’t appear from the info in the OP that the in laws are off-grid ignoramuses with no concept of terms such as ‘Chinese’ rather than Chinky.

honestly assuming racists have to be old just shows your own prejudice -
ageist and a racism-excuser.

I didn't say racists have to be old and I have not excused racism.

The point is that not everyone who use racist language realise that it is racist . Obviously it's different if they keep using it after having been told .

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MrsTerryPratchett · 25/09/2022 19:49

The point is that not everyone who use racist language realise that it is racist .

It was racist when I was a teenager. They know. Everyone knows.

hattie43 · 25/09/2022 19:50

@ElephantsintheCupboard

Don't try and have a rational conversation with these zealots . Not worth the aggravation