To Buy Shein??

[GarthElgarsGlasses]

Hi, tempted to make some purchases from Shein and wondering whether anyone who’s bought from them would recommend their clothes or not?! Money’s right but really need some new winter clothes, however as Shein is so cheap I’m sceptical! Any experiences of their clothes welcomed! Thanks!

I've had some lovely things, bought a jumper almost 4 years ago and it still looks great!
I got some bits for my little girl over summer too and they've been really nice quality.
Some bits feel awful but some have been really lovely. I would say, read the reviews for sizing tips :)

Yes

Some of the responses on this thread are shocking. I wonder how they’d feel if they actually came face to face with the child forced to work in the factory?

I'd recommend Justine Leconte's channel generally if you want to understand more about how the fashion industry is killing the planet.

And lots on how to choose purchases mindfully.

She has very hypnotic hands too 😁

Thanks
Why wouldn't they be viable? Are there some people whose ONLY option is to buy from Shein. How can that be true? What did they do before it existed?

I buy from Shein regularly, most recently bought shoes, bedding, curtains, Halloween decorations and autumn/winter clothing for me and the kids. They're insanely cheap and the items are actually pretty good quality, delivery doesn't take long either and most stuff is delivered by Hermes (now Evri I believe) so you can track delivery. I've been slowly browsing and building up my next order over the last couple of days

No one “needs” new clothes every 5 minutes or to wear something new every time they go out though.

They don’t “need”15 different styles of jeans or a different bikini for every day of their holiday. Want is not need.

All my clothes fit in a standard double wardrobe and a small chest of drawers.

The willingness to overlook how clothes are made and the effect on our one and only habitable planet basically means that as a species we are doomed. The will to save the planet has to come from the ground up. Shein and it’s like would be out of business overnight if no one bought their products. Rather than looking to world governments to do something we need to look hard at our own behaviour. Dutifully recycling waste is pointless unless we ALL stop buying waste creating consumer products.

Sadly on the evidence of this thread that will not happen.

I do wonder what the slaves would like to say to you…

That's right just keep buying the crap in large quantities.

Will do!

Personally, I prefer to go to a charity shop (ideally in a wealthy area because they have the good brands 🤭)
I've found some really lovely, good quality winter coats in charity shops (and it makes me happy that the clothes get a second life with me haha - watching Toy Story as a child traumatised me and I feel sorry for inanimate objects that aren't appreciated and enjoyed😅)

See you back on MN in a few years with a “Help my house is filled with clutter and I’m overwhelmed” thread!

If you want to go down the ethics route then take a good look at yourselves.
Got a headache? Pop a paracetamol from Bayer.
Doing the housework or decorating? Careful, the chemicals are most probably produced by BASF or AGFA, which are the satellite companies of IG Farben, who produced Zyklon B.
Admire or own a Smeg, AEG, Miele, Siemen domestic appliance? Oh dear.
What are those components in your electronic devices? Oh they'll be a chip produced in a Chinese sweatshop.
Clothes from H&M, Zara, even Marks and Spencer among others. Tsk Tsk. Up there with Shein for slave labour.
Need to go out in motorised transport? Have shopping delivered? That will be driven on the fuel produced in the middle east, mainly by slave labour.
Japanese products and cars? They have a terrible human rights record.
Let's not forget recently the Russians echoing the camps of Hitler by sending 2.5 million Ukrainians, including 38.000 children into so called ' filtration camps ' which use interrogation, torture and murder to ' determine loyalty ' of those Ukrainians.
So when you're beating your drums about ethnicity and environment, take a good look at yourselves.
Each and every one of us have used, still use, owned or still owns a product made in a sweatshop somewhere in the world where human rights is laughed at.
So, I'll carry on buying from where ever I choose and you carry on your own way.

@GoingThatWay Good points. I was just about to ask (in a non snarky way, really wanting to know) which clothes companies DO have a good record re human rights? Everyone's posting 'don't buy from HERE' but not where TO buy from?

I have 2 kids, my house is already filled with clutter.

Out of curiosity, if you're so against the rumoured sweat shop/child labour style brands, other than making snide sarcastic comments to people online about purchasing from them, what are you doing? Are you raising awareness of the conditions? Are you working with aid groups, human rights groups to end it? Are you going to the factories and documenting the "slavery" to show the world? Are you creating your own ethical and affordable products as an alternative? Are you contacting manufacturers regarding their slave policies, their workers rights? Are you actually doing anything? Also if you don't shop from Shein because you're so against their workers conditions, I assume you also don't shop at H&M, Next, Primark, Amazon and many many other well known brands who do the whole "we're ethical and support workers rights/safe working conditions" act.

All the whataboutery, @GoingThatWay . ALL the nonsense about buying stuff from companies involved in a regime 80 years ago, when none of us were alive and none of us were consuming. As opposed to consciously choosing, now, in 2022, to buy cheap shit from enslaved labour in China.

I really hate this argument that unless you have spent your entire life, living in a cave knitting your own clothes from nettles, you have no right to an opinion. It's a very lazy justification for having no moral compass.

And the poster "filing her basket" with cheap tat decorations/landfill from China, shame on you.

I wouldn't. For ethical reasons. To me a £4 top isnt' worth someone basically working as a slave.

I would also expect the quality is pretty poor, and I am not a fan of disposal fashion.

Do you literally not care at all about your childrens future, or can you not see the link between buying loads of crap from somewhere like Shein and the apocalyptic predictions of what their future might look like?

Im genuinely curious as to how you can give so little of a shit that you’re bullishly showing off about the way you are needlessly polluting the planet.

Exactly.

@BrownOrangeRed I quit my fashion career 10 years ago to work in the sustainability sector and atone for my sins, at a B-corp that donates significant profits and pro bono time. And you assume correctly, I don’t shop at those places. Nor do I fly, drive a petrol car, whatever whataboutery you want to throw my way, etc etc. Pissing about on Mumsnet – with its concurrent energy use and all the history of its threads held on servers, and the footprint that entails – is probably my biggest environmental sin.

How about you?

The entire western way of life is predicated on an immoral basis. We pretty much all live a life of privilege here in a nation of plenty. Some of us acknowledge it and try to do better, others just use whataboutery to justify continuing to do what the fuck they want regardless of anyone else.

There is a difference between getting in a car, or buying food shopping, or owning a mobile phone, as compared with shopping from shein. The latter is just totally unnecessary and people could very easily stop it with little adverse impact on their life. Not owning a mobile phone or not buying food is really rather harder for people to achieve. It’s not the same thing at all.

That’s a bit like saying there’s no point recycling because you have a car and use an airplane.

aka the sort of stupid shit Nigel Farage would say

Well said

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