To Buy Shein??

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Hi, tempted to make some purchases from Shein and wondering whether anyone who’s bought from them would recommend their clothes or not?! Money’s right but really need some new winter clothes, however as Shein is so cheap I’m sceptical! Any experiences of their clothes welcomed! Thanks!

'can you not see the link between buying loads of crap from somewhere like Shein and the apocalyptic predictions of what their future might look like?'

More worried about Putin and his threats regarding anything apocalyptic tbh rather than a 5quid top from Shein versus a 30quid top from Zara who possibly use very similar production systems impactpolicies.org/en/news/226

That's just a copy & paste from one of those far right sponsored "Life was better in the 70s so stop being woke" Facebook pages. 🙄

So many people looking for so many reasons why they don't need to try. The one I can empathise with is the PP that said life's tough, sometimes you just want one thing that's new for your kids. I can see that. Been there years ago.

Lecturing people as to how they should shop, behave, and consume comes across as bloody high and mighty and is a sure way of getting people to ignore you. Despite meaning well.

Buying from Shein is not illegal. If it is so bad then maybe Governments should be boycotting the importation of their products by law. Aw but Free Trade Agreements you know?

It starts at the top, not with one person on their uppers or liking the look of something buying from them.

'There is a difference between getting in a car, or buying food shopping, or owning a mobile phone, as compared with shopping from shein. The latter is just totally unnecessary and people could very easily stop it with little adverse impact on their life.'

Well of course you'll say it's different because you probably have a car and a phone. Get the bus! Use a landline. Be ethical all the time rather than selectively ethical if you want any credibility,

Vinted is the way to go. Good quality brands for a couple of pounds. I used to work in a high end shop and sold a lot of things I got for 'uniform' cheap as chips and like new condition. I'm sure a lot of sellers are similar.

Seriously and with no hidden agenda try charity shops . You can buy fabulous quality clothes for the same price as Shein and not have the fast fashion guilt

You can look for clothes made in the UK they are expensive though. I've bought a few pieces. I'm betting most of MN don't have any UK made clothes but preach about sustainability. makeitbritish.co.uk/best-of-british/uk-clothing-brands/

Charity shops don't have online shopping and delivery. That's the way many people shop these days correct? And charity shopping is fine if you have a few nearby with decent stock and have time to browse.

I've bought a few bits from there and honestly never had an issue. Came well packaged, fits well, washes well..

I fully plan on buying more from there.

Putin’s goal is to control Ukraine’s food production and therefore control a bigger slice of the global food supply, to ready Russia against the coming long-term worldwide food security crises the climate emergency has in store. His war, Shein, Zara – it’s ALL related to the climate crisis. And people on this thread who are against Shein aren’t advocating for switching to Zara at all – they’re saying that the world is full of clothes (and shoes, furniture, crockery, ~stuff) already, does anyone really need more new things Vs buying second-hand?

How many clothes do people need though? Society seems to have normalised having vast wardrobes with dresses and coats and trousers and tops of every colour etc. There's no need. Buy better but buy less.

Kids need more as they keep growing but there's ways to make stuff last - buy big and roll up sleeves etc. But people don't do it because they can buy loads for cheap instead.

It's only been the last couple of generations when people have had so many clothes. Before that unless you were rich, you had some practical day clothes and one or two "Sunday best" outfits that lasted forever. Kids lived in hand me downs that were repaired if needed. Surely that's more frugal in a cost of living crisis than seasonal Primark or Shein hauls.

Fast fashion has destroyed any sense of normality of how many clothes a person needs.

Choice, time and money. That's what people need to buy ethically. What if the charity shops don't have the black trousers you need urgently? What if you do not have time to trawl through Vinted etc.? What if a wire has popped out on your only bra and you've only got £6 spare?

I'm not a Shein shopper myself but I do understand that not everybody can afford principles, especially in an emergency.

I do have a phone, yes. You’re telling me that it would be as easy for me to exist in modern society with no mobile phone as it would be not to buy a new dress from Shein?

You can’t see that one is a totally unnecessary luxury and the other is pretty much a necessity if you want to participate in modern society? And I am acknowledging my privilege, and trying to mitigate my own footprint with my phone - I don’t buy the latest phone when it comes out or upgrade when I can, but use a phone till it breaks. My current one is cracked to fuck and years old, but still works. Your attitude is I’ll do what I want without a second thought and don’t give a shit.

The mental gymnastics you are engaging in to justify the fact you have no moral compass at all are staggering.

You obviously missed the point, but never mind.

Well I understand that people buy new sometimes, especially when they need something. I think that’s true of most of us. We have to be realistic most of us are consumers to a greater or lesser extent.

I think the issue is unapologetically buying lots of brand new unethically made high fashion items on top of the plenty of clothes you already own, to be worn once or twice then sent to landfill.

I agree we have to be realistic but some of the posters on this thread haven’t been buying only what they need or only in an emergency.

Is it?
Do you think everyone has FB and no mind if their own?
Do you seriously think that everyone relies on shit like FB for information?
You're being silly.

'I do have a phone, yes. You’re telling me that it would be as easy for me to exist in modern society with no mobile phone as it would be not to buy a new dress from Shein?'

I'm saying stop policing others prople's choices. Clothes from Shein may well be essential for some people who can't afford expensive locally sourced stuff. Stop judging others. The whole of the high street comes from China.

'I think the issue is unapologetically buying lots of brand new unethically made high fashion items on top of the plenty of clothes you already own, to be worn once or twice then sent to landfill.'

Maybe they sell them on ebay or whenever or give to charity shops . Recycling is a good thing you know.

Crikey, can everyone shut up about bloody vinted.

Most of Europe does not have Charity shops.
Most people do not stock pile SHEIN products, they get the odd thing (usually for teens)

I have never bought anything from SHEIN but if my 14 year old wants to, she can. The PP who slated tweens and said "I am not there yet with my DCs" No, you are not.

Posters are now just piling on for the sake of it.

Correct.
However, the objects and methods that they use to achieve those things are built on slave labour.
Enjoying your cup of tea or coffee? The process is started by people with little or no rights, even fair trade came under fire for being unethical.
So, you can argue, but your argument falls short if you yourself uses a mobile phone as opposed to a landline.
You CAN manage with a landline, but for your own convenience you choose to use a mobile. At a cost to those people who constructed it.

Other people’s choices affect me, and my children. You for just fuck the future for yourself but for everyone else too. So it affects me and I will have an opinion.

If someone is buying essentials and the only place selling what they need at a price they can pay is shein, and the alternative is their kid goes to school in bare feet, that is a different situation to buying stuff from there that you don’t need just because it’s “fashionable”. The genuinely struggling shouldn’t be used as a smokescreen to justify others’ refusal to curtail their excess.

And yes most fashion brands are unethical but some are worse than others. Buying from H&M for example is better than buying from Shein. Saying they’re all from China as though that makes them equally bad is not correct.

Each and every one of us have used, still use, owned or still owns a product made in a sweatshop somewhere in the world where human rights is laughed at.
So, I'll carry on buying from where ever I choose and you carry on your own way.

It's fine. We all do our bit to live our lives and be happy. And it's the same as digging on people for buying their cheap meat at a supermarket rather than the bijou butcher where you know the cows have been massaged and handfed buttercups and dasies before being gently despatched. We buy what we can afford.

However, we should be constantly questioning ourselves about what we are buying and what we need. So yes, i have a phone and a laptop and a car and i flew once this summer. I did carbon offsetting for my flight, and i drive as little as possible and get the best consumption i can. With tech and so on it's harder: so i try to recycle or buy refurbished tech where possible. Our old tech is donated or sent to the recycling places (I'm in Germany, it's pretty easy to track these things)

in a lot of respects demand drives supply (fashion is a weird one there with a weird structure) and if we demand better we will get better. And again, people will do what they can afford over their conscience every time. Generally.

People turning up their noses at 2nd hand clothes though is bonkers. A lot of the clothes still have the original swing tags, and lots of people are going to have to change their tune soon, unfortunately, i suspect, unfortunately.

Charity shops are absolutely swamped with crap second-hand fast fashion that takes up storage space, hanger space, and doesn’t sell well. Every massive decluttering bin bag of fast fashion clothes needs volunteers to sort it, space to hang it, needs pricing to make it worth the shop’s while, and makes charity shops unappealing: who wants a bobbly second-hand £4 Primark T-shirt from a charity shop when you can get a new trendy one for £6 in actual Primark?

And recycling clothes for fabric uses energy, which burns fossil fuels. Selling on eBay, donating via Freecycle, Freegle, Olio etc, and buying secondhand is part of the solution but not the whole answer. Because there’s also the carbon print and ethics of the whole supply chain to consider – passing something on via eBay or charity doesn’t negate the CO2, water and slavery used to make it in the first place. Ultimately the goal is for everyone to buy less, not “carry on shopping because you can sell it on eBay later”.

I buy all my things from there. Occasionally something isn't great but most stuff is fine and has lasted. I look again again the reviews with pictures and the size they ordered and their measurements. I am a UK 14 to 16 and will often buy xl.