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GarthElgarsGlasses · 2022-09-22T21:39:16+00:00

Hi, tempted to make some purchases from Shein and wondering whether anyone who’s bought from them would recommend their clothes or not?! Money’s right but really need some new winter clothes, however as Shein is so cheap I’m sceptical! Any experiences of their clothes welcomed! Thanks!

GoingThatWay · 23/09/2022 15:18

@WowStarsWow Wrong. I don't dress her in anything. She dresses herself in her favourite things, from her favourite store.

EveSix · 23/09/2022 15:21

woodhill, I agree.
On eBay, the filter I use to screen out poor quality clothing is 'Material'. Ticking the natural fibres ensures you don't get synthetic stuff in the feed, and is a pretty accurate indicator of quality.

GoingThatWay · 23/09/2022 15:32

The point is.... everything we own, have owned and potentially will own has been made on the back of slave labour.
Yet today people are foaming about today's offerings being made on the back of slave labour.
Everyone posting anti slave labour stuff on this thread is more than happy to own say, a mobile phone which contains parts made from various slave labourers, right down to the plastic casing, yet here they are having hissy fits about cheap clothing.
Whether it's a company that engaged in slave labour eighty years ago or a company that engages slave labour today, there is no difference. You're still happy to own it.
A poster upthread said she couldn't work without her mobile, yet banged on about the ethics of cheap clothing.
If you feel so strongly about it then ditch your job which requires a mobile ( built by slave labour ) and get a job where no mobile is required.
That won't happen though because it's more convenient to bleat on about ethics, like someone claiming to love animals while tucking into a steak, or that person who bangs on about the environment while booking a holiday abroad.
Hypocrisy at its best.
People need to accept that slave labour will always be around as long as humans are and banging your tambourine about it isn't going to change it.
Do you really think that if people stop buying from such as Shein, that it will go away?
If course not, because for every Shein that goes under, another one will take its place.

feemcgee · 23/09/2022 15:34

I've been happy with almost everything I've bought from Shein, my teenage DD buys from them too. I've got some lovely summer maxi dresses, they feel nice and are flattering.

EveSix · 23/09/2022 15:38

RealBecca, that's it for me too. How does that ability to separate oneself so blithely from the suffering of another occur, that you can say: "I want this thing. My kid wants this thing. It's made by a woman like me or a child like mine through forced labour in conditions that are unsafe and coercive. I'm OK with that." ?
Especially as there are so many non-exploitative alternatives.

It's the "Well, the plane is going to leave the runway anyway, so it might as well be me and my family in those seats,"-way of justifying frequent or gratuitous flying in the face of climate refugees: "That stuff is going to be made anyway, so what does it matter if I buy it?"

woodhill · 23/09/2022 15:49

EveSix · 23/09/2022 15:21

woodhill, I agree.
On eBay, the filter I use to screen out poor quality clothing is 'Material'. Ticking the natural fibres ensures you don't get synthetic stuff in the feed, and is a pretty accurate indicator of quality.

Yes and lots of other useful variables like sleeve length, neck etc

Brefugee · 23/09/2022 15:50

If course not, because for every Shein that goes under, another one will take its place

so we should do nothing. Just as well those who fought for women's votes, weekends, paid time off, unions, etc etc didn't just think "fuck it, i can't change anything"

Ein · 23/09/2022 15:58

Depends how you feel about buying cheap ‘fast fashion’ from a country that kidnaps its ethnic minority citizens and forces them to work for free in concentration camps that use torture. Child labor also an issue.

If the price is so good despite being shipped around the world, ask yourself who made it and if they got paid at all.

Maybe google things like ‘Shein child labor’…

EveSix · 23/09/2022 16:02

GoingThatWay, you are trying that angle again, the one which basically says "Everything is already compromised, so what's the point?" as a way of shutting down the argument.
This thread is full of really good examples and suggestions but you're pursuing the 'purity vs hypocrisy' angle which is so disheartening to see. The mobile phone issue was addressed upthread: posters sharing how they use second hand phones as a way of not further adding to the demand for manufacture and distribution of new mobile phones (I do too, my second hand Samsung is 10 years old and absolutely fine, ditto the rest of my family). Yet here you are, dragging it up a few pages later. Tiresome.

IrisVersicolor · 23/09/2022 16:06

I bought a couple of boho ‘folk’ cotton dresses this summer that were a absolutely fine. Way better than Primark.

Meili04 · 23/09/2022 16:20

wellhelloitsme · 23/09/2022 14:04

I have looked on eBay , vinted and most of it is shite , vinted have people trying to sell Boohoo for nearly the original price.

So discounted and means that yet more garments aren't being made and yet more garments aren't being put in landfill. That's good, not bad, surely?

Nearly the original price for people's worn clothes ? No thank you. If it was 50 percent off yes maybe.

Meili04 · 23/09/2022 16:24

I just googled about uyghur child labour.It's actually more nuanced than just shein . 20 percent of the entire world's cotton is produced in Xinjiang , 80 percent of Chinese cotton. There is a good chance we are all wearing clothes from exploited workers especially from the high street.

Qwerkie · 23/09/2022 16:32

BrownOrangeRed · 23/09/2022 10:08

I buy from Shein regularly, most recently bought shoes, bedding, curtains, Halloween decorations and autumn/winter clothing for me and the kids. They're insanely cheap and the items are actually pretty good quality, delivery doesn't take long either and most stuff is delivered by Hermes (now Evri I believe) so you can track delivery. I've been slowly browsing and building up my next order over the last couple of days

Do you wonder why it’s so cheap? Do you think about how all that tat you’re buying is produced? Who’s making it?

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 23/09/2022 17:36

GoingThatWay · 23/09/2022 15:32

The point is.... everything we own, have owned and potentially will own has been made on the back of slave labour.
Yet today people are foaming about today's offerings being made on the back of slave labour.
Everyone posting anti slave labour stuff on this thread is more than happy to own say, a mobile phone which contains parts made from various slave labourers, right down to the plastic casing, yet here they are having hissy fits about cheap clothing.
Whether it's a company that engaged in slave labour eighty years ago or a company that engages slave labour today, there is no difference. You're still happy to own it.
A poster upthread said she couldn't work without her mobile, yet banged on about the ethics of cheap clothing.
If you feel so strongly about it then ditch your job which requires a mobile ( built by slave labour ) and get a job where no mobile is required.
That won't happen though because it's more convenient to bleat on about ethics, like someone claiming to love animals while tucking into a steak, or that person who bangs on about the environment while booking a holiday abroad.
Hypocrisy at its best.
People need to accept that slave labour will always be around as long as humans are and banging your tambourine about it isn't going to change it.
Do you really think that if people stop buying from such as Shein, that it will go away?
If course not, because for every Shein that goes under, another one will take its place.

Once again deciding not to buy shit fast fashion (amongst other better decisions one can make) is in no way comparable to ditching your job so you don't need to ever use a mobile phone.

What do you suggest? And I'd love to know what you recommend regards global warming ... the planets fucked anyway so live and let live?

It is totally possible to make better choices now and make a tiny difference because if we all do it change can happen.

I can't believe you can't see there is at least a middle ground.

RIPQueen · 23/09/2022 17:46

GoingThatWay · 23/09/2022 15:32

The point is.... everything we own, have owned and potentially will own has been made on the back of slave labour.
Yet today people are foaming about today's offerings being made on the back of slave labour.
Everyone posting anti slave labour stuff on this thread is more than happy to own say, a mobile phone which contains parts made from various slave labourers, right down to the plastic casing, yet here they are having hissy fits about cheap clothing.
Whether it's a company that engaged in slave labour eighty years ago or a company that engages slave labour today, there is no difference. You're still happy to own it.
A poster upthread said she couldn't work without her mobile, yet banged on about the ethics of cheap clothing.
If you feel so strongly about it then ditch your job which requires a mobile ( built by slave labour ) and get a job where no mobile is required.
That won't happen though because it's more convenient to bleat on about ethics, like someone claiming to love animals while tucking into a steak, or that person who bangs on about the environment while booking a holiday abroad.
Hypocrisy at its best.
People need to accept that slave labour will always be around as long as humans are and banging your tambourine about it isn't going to change it.
Do you really think that if people stop buying from such as Shein, that it will go away?
If course not, because for every Shein that goes under, another one will take its place.

If people had your attitude slavery would be rife still. Things have been made with slave labour historically, yes, and since that time; companies have had to find other means and other methods. Why? Because it’s an inexcusable practice and they were forced to stop or loose money. If people actually boycotted unethical practices eg stopped buying from
shein and the like then they would have to stop what they are doing. Society is supposed to learn and change. “They did something wrong in the past and no one seems to mind” is stupid. The companies you’re talking about aren’t doing it anymore so there’s nothing to boycott. The problem is gone. But here the problem is very real and you’re still buying from
them!

stayinghometoday · 23/09/2022 17:48

Going on to buy from companies as these is the exact same thing as agreeing with what was done to black slaves in (north or south) america that were separated from their kids and flogged and worked till death. I bet that people back then looked at that and said: yeah but it makes the cotton cheaper so I don't care.

People should watch Uncle Toms cabin again and recognise themselves as the evil plantation owners who saw black people as cattle.

limitededitionbarbie · 23/09/2022 18:07

There are loads of Shein ads on this thread when I scroll.

I've bought stuff from there op, it's true to size. I've sized up for my daughters stuff who is 9. I've bought 11 - 12 for her.

I've sent very little back.

Same quality as primark or boohoo etc.

WildfellAnne · 23/09/2022 18:10

Out of curiosity, I asked my late teens, early 20s DDs what they knew about Shein and if they would buy from it - all said no way immediately. None of them have much/any money, but they wouldn’t buy from Shein.

mamabear715 · 23/09/2022 18:13

So.. I'm still waiting, for about the last four pages, for someone to tell me where I SHOULD be shopping?

TheColorIndigo · 23/09/2022 18:17

mamabear715 · 23/09/2022 18:13

So.. I'm still waiting, for about the last four pages, for someone to tell me where I SHOULD be shopping?

Several people have mentioned Vinted. And charity shops.

Mojitoo · 23/09/2022 18:19

So.. I'm still waiting, for about the last four pages, for someone to tell me where I SHOULD be shopping?

Read the last four pages. Loads of people have replied on this.

Mojitoo · 23/09/2022 18:22

GoingThatWay · 23/09/2022 15:32

The point is.... everything we own, have owned and potentially will own has been made on the back of slave labour.
Yet today people are foaming about today's offerings being made on the back of slave labour.
Everyone posting anti slave labour stuff on this thread is more than happy to own say, a mobile phone which contains parts made from various slave labourers, right down to the plastic casing, yet here they are having hissy fits about cheap clothing.
Whether it's a company that engaged in slave labour eighty years ago or a company that engages slave labour today, there is no difference. You're still happy to own it.
A poster upthread said she couldn't work without her mobile, yet banged on about the ethics of cheap clothing.
If you feel so strongly about it then ditch your job which requires a mobile ( built by slave labour ) and get a job where no mobile is required.
That won't happen though because it's more convenient to bleat on about ethics, like someone claiming to love animals while tucking into a steak, or that person who bangs on about the environment while booking a holiday abroad.
Hypocrisy at its best.
People need to accept that slave labour will always be around as long as humans are and banging your tambourine about it isn't going to change it.
Do you really think that if people stop buying from such as Shein, that it will go away?
If course not, because for every Shein that goes under, another one will take its place.

Ah, the tired old "hypocrisy at best;" when it's just not.

You don't need me to point out the gaping, problematic holes in all this. Other posters have done a better job, and you won't listen anyway.

stuntbubbles · 23/09/2022 18:25

mamabear715 · 23/09/2022 18:13

So.. I'm still waiting, for about the last four pages, for someone to tell me where I SHOULD be shopping?

Did you miss the post that for some reason was called selfish that listed:

eBay
Vinted
Charity shops
Car boots
Jumble sales

Plus: Dotte for kids wear, Depop which skews younger, endless fashion rental sites, even Selfridges resells these days, and there are a few high-end shopping sites for second-hand handbags and such, fashion “swap” events, any old “top 10 ethical fashion brands” list in the fashion media, which will usually suggest Birdsong, Lucy & Yak, People Tree, etc.

Look for brands that take responsibility for the whole life cycle of the garment, from fabric origin and labour to packaging, delivery, and offer repairs and accept items back and recycle them. Can’t remember the name of the jeans brand but it lets you rent the jeans rather than buy, and you can trade in after a year if you want a new style.

Discovereads · 23/09/2022 18:28

@GoingThatWay
People need to accept that slave labour will always be around as long as humans are and banging your tambourine about it isn't going to change it.

Banging a tambourine won’t change it, but refusing to fund the companies built on slave labour will. Besides I’m pretty sure this same argument was used by pro-slavery MPs when Parliament was debating abolishing the slave trade. It’s not the zinger you think it is.

mycatisannoying · 23/09/2022 18:37

Team Vinted here!