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Madonna… wtf??

358 replies

Teenyliving · 22/09/2022 21:43

Madonnas Instagram just popped up on my feed.

erm.

is it genuine? She has had so much work done that she looks about 25 - in the pics - I imagine in real life it looks kinda weird.

and it all seems to be some kind of weird porn inspired vibe - but in a very clunky and unsubtle way.

I am genuinely shocked. I haven’t really seen anything of her for quite a while.

is this a surprise to anyone else or have I been totally out of the loop??

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PickAChew · 22/09/2022 23:41

Hopefullysoon2022 · 22/09/2022 22:49

Nobody says anything about Cher or Tina Turner getting plastic surgery.

Its just another stick to beat Madonna with.

Oh, we did. Back in the late 80s, we were all discussing cher's alleged rib removal.

Manekinek0 · 22/09/2022 23:45

I've seen her pop up on tiktok and I pity her. She seems very insecure and I'm surprised any plastic surgeon would have happily done that to her face.

Gwen Stefanis recent transformation has put me off ever having fillers.

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/09/2022 23:52

Hopefullysoon2022 · 22/09/2022 22:49

Nobody says anything about Cher or Tina Turner getting plastic surgery.

Its just another stick to beat Madonna with.

You are kidding, right?

Cher was pulled to pieces in the press for YEARS for her plastic surgery. She called herself the "poster girl for plastic surgery".

Cher used to get the piss ripped out of her mercilessly for it, it was a standing joke.

You're way off the mark with this.

TheGoodFighter · 22/09/2022 23:56

Fucking hell, since when does a woman's looks have anything to do with whether they think you want to fuck them or not?!

The fuck planet do you live on? Womens looks have ALWAYS had everything to do with whether they are deemed fuckable or not, This has to be one of the stupidest questions ever on MN

LadybirdsLadybirds · 23/09/2022 00:01

When I first saw her recent pics I thought damn, plastic surgery has certainly improved and is absolutely amazing now. I thought WTF, she looks 25. But it's all filters. As this article so kindly pointed out:

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10080929/Madonna-looks-different-without-filters.html

She actually used to look younger than her age, but looks every day of her real age now. Not that there's anything wrong with looking her age but the Whatever Happened to Baby Jane styling, not so much.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 23/09/2022 00:02

BadNomad · 22/09/2022 22:39

The woman is behaving the same way she has always behaved. I.e. doing her own thing. People always had an issue with that. But now even more people have an issue with it because of their own bias and judginess of how women should behave after a certain age.

Thankfully, Madonna still doesn't care what people think. Nor should she.

You're deluded if you think Madonna doesn't care about what people think. So much of her stchick has been the "I'm so shocking/I'm so outrageous/I so don't give a fuck" routine which is , well , Desperately Seeking Attention.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 23/09/2022 00:02

TheGoodFighter · 22/09/2022 23:56

Fucking hell, since when does a woman's looks have anything to do with whether they think you want to fuck them or not?!

The fuck planet do you live on? Womens looks have ALWAYS had everything to do with whether they are deemed fuckable or not, This has to be one of the stupidest questions ever on MN

I meant as in women don't always give a shit whether you think they're "fuckable" or not.
That they dress for themselves.
I know I do and Madonna comes across as the same
Does her own thing. Doesnt care if not everyone approves.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 23/09/2022 00:03

Desperately Seeking Attention
Even if she is - so what?

TheClogLady · 23/09/2022 00:05

Re: the ‘Sex’ book a few pages back on the thread…

Does anyone else remember the 90s punk band, Wat Tyler’s spoof version of it?

It was wonderfully, pathetically British.

As if Madonna was called Maude and lived in a caravan in wet and rainy north Wales:

(I hope I censored these enough for Mumsnet!)

Lioness100 · 23/09/2022 00:06

The sad thing is that we berate these women and bring them down as other women. In my friendship group I have the divided camp- “oh no, no Botox or fillers, grow old gracefully”…(while sniggering at, and putting those down who do). The open- “yip, get Botox, fillers, can’t understand why you wouldn’t”… (you old looking hags), and the quiet, non disclosers… (perhaps they have… perhaps they haven’t? 🤷‍♀️.

The issue I have as a mother is the overarching message. You must look a certain way- at 13, at 16, at 18, at 21, at 30, at 40, at 50, at 60.

I 100% think any female should do whatever they like to their own body to make them feel good about themselves but I don’t ever think that should sacrifice the mental health of our girls/children.

I also don’t think our lovely, unfiltered, unedited CHILDREN, should feel ‘bad’ about themselves because of lies on social media- sometimes to the point of suicide.

I did my Higher English dissertation about the Information Super Highway in the 90’s (Teachers didn’t have a clue what I was talking about) basically social media/the internet). My main point was that it was unpoliced. Not much has changed.

This is a very simple fix to help mental health… remove filters… have legislation written in to any adverts/posters, regarding false advertising and false representation. Job done… for now. As in, had Botox, had fillers, had teeth done, had XYZ then you must disclose this if you’re promoting yourself as a business/obtainable entity to your audience.

Disclosure, and honesty, and integrity are absolutely key to building a safer and more ‘policed’ online community with a much better outcome for mental health.

As I said, I support all women to do what they want with their bodies/faces… but the open and honest platform would hugely help mental health. It’s ok to do whatever you want to do… just don’t lie about it and promote it… simple 🤷‍♀️

Molly Russell is very much in my thoughts in all of this. There is a wider picture to all of this. There’s a collective responsibility and there’s a need for ‘policing’. We have opened Pandoras Box and we need to find a way to return to healthier times before it was opened. The social media companies clearly won’t do it… so we need too. Every time you comment, I want you to think, Is that how I’d comment to my friend, to myself, to my daughter or son? We have the power… we need to use it.

Kitchenlight · 23/09/2022 00:07

I find it disturbing and unseemly in the same way I found Michael Jackson disturbing and unseemly. Something is off. She is a monster.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 23/09/2022 00:08

She is a monster.
😕🤣
WTF, because you don't like the way she looks?!

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 23/09/2022 00:09

Hopefullysoon2022 · 22/09/2022 22:49

Nobody says anything about Cher or Tina Turner getting plastic surgery.

Its just another stick to beat Madonna with.

Cher's plastic surgery definitely gets discussed.

Here's a recent picture of Tina Turner- apart from the highly unlikely to be real hair colour if she has had work done, it looks fine.

Madonna… wtf??
EmeraldShamrock1 · 23/09/2022 00:11

There is a thin line between eccentric and a being a twat.

I find her disturbing too in the same way I thought MJ was disturbing.

HatThatWearsYou · 23/09/2022 00:13

Parkingmoan1 · 22/09/2022 23:31

I've just had a look on her Instagram and there's something strange about her head in most of the pictures and videos, it doesn't look in proportion.

Does she wear big heavy wigs? A shit load of filler in her head ?

Can anybody else see what I mean or am I losing the plot.

I'm too young to know and appreciate her older music but I'm sure she didn't look like this in 2006..

She's been known to steal pictures from other women online and photoshop her head on them so maybe that's why it looks odd.

www.buzzfeed.com/terrycarter/madonna-photoshopped-face-body-tiktok

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 23/09/2022 00:14

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 23/09/2022 00:03

Desperately Seeking Attention
Even if she is - so what?

Not sure what your point is. I was refuting the frankly nonsensical idea that Madonna never cared what people think. I made no comment on whether her attention seeking was good or bad- simply that she has always sought attention.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 23/09/2022 00:19

She is a predator kissing Britney the American sweet heart ATT and Christina on stage.

Now mauling another young woman in the latest video, she's no better than any 62 y.o man using their power and influence on young women.

I doubt Tokischa wouldn't kiss a random 62 y.o woman.

I never heard of Tokischa before tonight so Madonna the predator done her job.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 23/09/2022 00:25

Tabbouleh · 22/09/2022 23:24

I have always thought Madonna exceptionally uncool and try hard, even when young. I prefer a more disheveled rock look.

Soon somebody will be along to accuse me of being jealous:) But it's just a preference.

I would like to age like Joan Baez.

Same here. I'm a year younger. I've never liked her music and never found her particularly attractive. She's never held a candle to women like Stevie Nick's, Natalie Merchant, Maria McKee, Linda Ronstadt or Emmylou Harris.

Harrystylestutu · 23/09/2022 00:27

Sorry if it's been said, I only read the op, but she looks great from a distance...I feel so mean saying that. Ageing is a privilege I guess, but if she feels good then what's the harm.
that's a pointless post to be honest haha, so I vote Yabu and yanbu.

EntertainingandFactual · 23/09/2022 00:31

I look amazing with a filter! 50 something minus 3 decades…

Harrystylestutu · 23/09/2022 00:31

Also, no I don't think she's got the strongest voice, but when @EmeraldShamrock1 puts it like that, you've said what I thought in a better way than I could.

MintyGreenDreams · 23/09/2022 00:35

I don't know why but I thought "but its Madonna?'" As soon as I read the Op.
It's expected of her and I'm surprised she didn't have work done years ago tbh.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 23/09/2022 00:38

That video made me feel a bit sick.

Was she even mentally fit enough to adopt those children.

littleburn · 23/09/2022 00:42

One thing that strikes me in a lot of the unfiltered pictures is she looks so hunched over nowadays, like she has physical issues that are affecting her posture. Which is probably to be expected in your 60s after years of touring and dancing, but it just makes the filtered unreality look even more ridiculous.

Madonna… wtf??
kateandme · 23/09/2022 00:55

Please please please don’t beleive instagram pictures. They are all fake.you can even fake live action stories now too.