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Diana and Charles Questions

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AdoraLovesCake · 21/09/2022 06:51

So this is not a AIBU but it's an ATBU for are THEY being unreasonable.

I have seen a lot of you tube shorts marking the 25 year death of Lady Diana Spencer/the princess. They say she was a devoted mum and participated in the boys' school events, gave them macdonald's ect. Was a lovely, normal mum. I don't dispute that. Even though she died just before I was born so i hardly know anything about her, i think she is amazing and did not deserve to die. That brings me on to how some people said she wrote in her diary that she thought Charles was planning to kill her (staging an accident) so he could marry Camilla and that she knew something was wrong with the brakes in her car. For any of you who don't know, she died in a car accident in Paris on August 31rd 1997.

She was the people's princess and adored by all, she was one of us as her children went to public schools, she dressed casual. ect.

I also have some questions:

  • Where was Diana buried, I know she had a state funeral thing?
  • Did Diana see her kids much after the divorce?
  • If Diana was alive now, what would her position be?
  • Charles did not mention Diana in his becoming king speech - he could have said 'And the boys' mother who taught them so much' or something - do you think he should have?

YABU: They are being unreasonable and Charles did not order Diana's murder
YANBU: They are not being unreasonable and Charles did order Diana's murder

OP posts:
Dinoteeth · 26/09/2022 12:04

Diana was from a rich family. I'll assume she had a private boarding school education. And was working as a nursery assistant.

If anything proves the point if a kids not got the brains private school isn't going to help its that one 😬

Charles had as normal an upbringing as he could get in the circumstances keeping in mind his Mum needed to be seen round the commonwealth and attend many functions etc.
The person with the horrendous upbringing was Philip. That man turned out comparatively normal given the shit he went through.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 26/09/2022 12:06

The person with the horrendous upbringing was Philip. That man turned out comparatively normal given the shit he went through

as far as we know ;)

MissyB1 · 26/09/2022 14:22

Dinoteeth · 26/09/2022 12:04

Diana was from a rich family. I'll assume she had a private boarding school education. And was working as a nursery assistant.

If anything proves the point if a kids not got the brains private school isn't going to help its that one 😬

Charles had as normal an upbringing as he could get in the circumstances keeping in mind his Mum needed to be seen round the commonwealth and attend many functions etc.
The person with the horrendous upbringing was Philip. That man turned out comparatively normal given the shit he went through.

I work as a nursery school assistant. I’ve got plenty of brains thanks.

Dinoteeth · 26/09/2022 14:38

Sorry I didn't mean to offend. What I meant was I'd expect someone with a £££ private education to be going on to university or something.

Did she even have a nursery teacher qualification?

x2boys · 26/09/2022 15:18

Dinoteeth · 26/09/2022 14:38

Sorry I didn't mean to offend. What I meant was I'd expect someone with a £££ private education to be going on to university or something.

Did she even have a nursery teacher qualification?

No I don't think, so a nursery teacher is a qualified teacher anyway ,but I'm not sure she had a nursery nurse qualification .

Connie2468 · 26/09/2022 16:09

She didn't have a qualification in anything, she was just a posh teenager doing a bit of babysitting for another posh family and helping out in a fancy kindergarten to keep her occupied before she got married.

RoseAndRose · 26/09/2022 16:13

Dinoteeth · 26/09/2022 14:38

Sorry I didn't mean to offend. What I meant was I'd expect someone with a £££ private education to be going on to university or something.

Did she even have a nursery teacher qualification?

I don't think so - it was something like 1 O level and a commendation for guinea pig care

Jibbajabba1 · 26/09/2022 16:27

@MrsLargeEmbodied

whats the name of that documentary please?

Changechangychange · 26/09/2022 16:32

Dinoteeth · 26/09/2022 14:38

Sorry I didn't mean to offend. What I meant was I'd expect someone with a £££ private education to be going on to university or something.

Did she even have a nursery teacher qualification?

She went to West Heath School didn’t she? Known for turning out Posh Gels who are very jolly-hockeysticks, rather than being an academic hothouse.

it was for upper class girls who would never have to work anyway, so no need to over-burden them with knowledge. Now shut, as obviously the market has changed and people expect a little more for their money.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/09/2022 21:28

As mentioned above, I am the same age as Diana. Less than 10% of our age group went to university, only a minority took A levels, and most kids left school at 16, without necessarily even taking O levels or CSEs (precursors to GCSEs). Diana was not in the least academic, so university would never have been on the cards for her. It was easy to get a job straight from school in those days, for the wealthy and well-connected, anyway. She worked in a Montessori nursery school as an unqualified nursery assistant, which probably meant mixing the paint and tidying up, nothing like the work of a TA these days.

Starsinyoureyes13 · 26/09/2022 21:36

To be fair to Charles he only had an affair with one person, he knew before diana and went on to marry her after Diana's death... They shoulda married in the first place but were not allowed it would have save all of this mess. What's happened has happened and though I'm not a royalist the blame cant just be laid at charles feet. To many people interfered and to many people got hurt. No i dont think the royal family or at least charles wasn't responsible for the death of Diana.

Starsinyoureyes13 · 26/09/2022 21:37

I mean they weren't responsible for Diana's death. Just a terrible accident

EdithWeston · 26/09/2022 22:00

Camilla was not Charles only mistress before (and possibly during) his marriage to Diana, or before marriage when he had other girlfriends.

There were far more than three in the marriage!

JudgeJ · 26/09/2022 23:10

LouisCatorze · 26/09/2022 07:16

On the subject of Diana not being a saint, I was reading a book review about Raine Spencer in The Sunday Times. Apparently Diana pushed her step-mother down the stairs at one point when she was already married to Charles. That is not normal behaviour, is it?

The Spencer children hated her when she married their father, they nicknamed her Acid Raine, when her husband died allegedly the 'children' had her stuff packed and removed from Althrop immediately. Diana was supposed to have grown closer to her in later years though.

JudgeJ · 26/09/2022 23:19

MissyB1 · 26/09/2022 14:22

I work as a nursery school assistant. I’ve got plenty of brains thanks.

I think that 40+ years ago the job was not as it is today, same as classroom assistants. My cleaner left me because she's got a job as a classroom assistant, neither job then needed much in the way of qualifications. Now the standards are much higher thank goodness.

BMW6 · 26/09/2022 23:35

EdithWeston · 26/09/2022 22:00

Camilla was not Charles only mistress before (and possibly during) his marriage to Diana, or before marriage when he had other girlfriends.

There were far more than three in the marriage!

Well you can certainly add in all the men (3 married at least) that Diana had affairs with during the marriage.

Her hypocrisy was astounding

MetaphysicalMoet · 27/09/2022 02:15

I find it very interesting, that after a period of relative quiet about Diana, suddenly the press and social media are stuffed full of negative stories about her again. Funny how this has coincided with the proclamation of the new king 🤔

x2boys · 27/09/2022 07:05

JudgeJ · 26/09/2022 23:19

I think that 40+ years ago the job was not as it is today, same as classroom assistants. My cleaner left me because she's got a job as a classroom assistant, neither job then needed much in the way of qualifications. Now the standards are much higher thank goodness.

Yes exactly I'm nearly 49 when I went to playschool ( there were no nursery classes in those days ) in the 70,s it was just an informal group of mums that used to help out in the church hall, no qualifications DBS checks etc .

LouisCatorze · 27/09/2022 07:12

@JudgeJ yes, the book review did go on to say that Diana almost regarded Raine as a second mother by the time she died.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 27/09/2022 07:18

@Jibbajabba1
i think it was Diana, in her own words, no longer on netflix but probably available somewhere

newnamethanks · 27/09/2022 07:25

Poor Lady 'Kanga' Tryon. Charles treated her abysmally and she reached a very sad end. Look her up, those of you who believe C3 was simply so 'in love, whatever that is' with Camilla. Ha!

newnamethanks · 27/09/2022 07:31

On the day Diana was buried, a small crowd was gathered outside the gates of Althorpe to see her home. One of them commented sadly to a reporter "of course, what you have to remember is that the Spencers are just as mad as the royal family". Which has always summed it up the whole farrago rather succinctly for me.

Inkanta · 27/09/2022 07:39

I don't think Camilla wanted to marry Charles anyway in the early days. She loved Parker Bowles and married him.

LouisCatorze · 27/09/2022 07:51

I'd forgotten all about 'Kanga' and had no idea she died so relatively young Sad.

EdithWeston · 27/09/2022 08:05

MetaphysicalMoet · 27/09/2022 02:15

I find it very interesting, that after a period of relative quiet about Diana, suddenly the press and social media are stuffed full of negative stories about her again. Funny how this has coincided with the proclamation of the new king 🤔

It had started before the death of the Queen.

This year was 25th anniversary of her death, and there's always more when it's a landmark number.

And then chat about any and all aspects of the royal family really took off from the time of the death onwards