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School is awful!

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anerki101 · 20/09/2022 09:56

DS has just started his second week in reception. It'd bloody awful, miserable and I hate every moment of it.

Firstly, getting up early is just dreadful. I'm not a morning person. I can set various different alarms, with different tones on different devices and I don't hear a single one. I have to rely on poor DH to wake me up. Sometimes I don't hear him and he has to flick me with water.

Before I had DS I had this problem with working FT too. The drudge of waking up at an ungodly hour five days a week. Spending all day in an environment you'd rather not be in with people you'd rather not be with. I'm terrible with routine and having commitments.

Then there's navigating the school run which is the worst kind of torture and you have to do it twice a day. Getting there early enough to find somewhere within walking distance to park or end up trudging miles in the pissing rain. All the parents seem to know each other already and stand around chatting in cliques.

DS is incredibly shy and struggle socially. He seems to get overlooked, forgotten and ignored. I worry dreadfully about him. He doesn't know how to interact with the other children. I fear he's going to get lost in the system both socially and educationally. He didn't eat his Yoghurt one day at school because he couldn't open it. My fault for sending something he couldn't open but I felt terrible he wasn't confident enough to ask one of the lunch time supervisors for help.

I can't help but feel it's wrong as a society that we inflict this on our four year old children. Dragging them out of bed when it's still dark, ignoring their natural body clock, shoving a slice of toast down their throats and sending them off into an unfamiliar environment five days a week. DS has only just turned four and can't yet wipe his own bum. I dread him doing a poo at school and prey that he at least does it towards the end of the day so he doesn't have to spend long covered in his own shit. He still has to be reminded to drink and every day so far he's come home with his water bottle still full to the rim.

It feels so wrong to send a just turned four year old into an environment where he has no help with wiping his bum and no encouragement to drink.

Before anyone starts, I don't for one minute blame the school or DS' teachers. They are brilliant. My issue is with the system itself. The society that requires us to send our children into this environment.

Yes, I know I don't have to. I could homeschool. But it's not that easy is it. Society isn't set up for parents to home school. Mostly, both parents need to work outside the home full time just to keep a roof over their heads.

Nursery was a far better environment. Ds went 15 hours a week. Enough for him to spend time with people outside rhe immediate family and enough for me to have a bit of time to get things done without him in tow. We could choose the hours best suited to us and what worked best for DS. Drinking wasn't an issue. He had help when using the toilet.

I know there was the option to defer school for a year and keep him in nursery for another year but we simply couldn't afford to do this. Also, DS was ready for school in an educational sense just not in an emotional and social sense.

The house feels empty without him too. I feel his absence in the silence.

Just musing really. It's nice to get my thoughts out.

Every day I pick him up from school he isn't himself. He's tired and emotional and has a tantrum over something minor before we've even walked through the front door. It's like he's holding himself in all day and letting it out when he's back with me.

He didn't even manage the first week at school, he caught covid on day four!

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unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:39

More than happy to chat @SpinCityBlues Grin

ClaraLane · 20/09/2022 12:39

Withdraw him from school and send him again next year, in the meantime you can try and get yourself a diagnosis of neurodiversity so you’re in a better mental space for when he starts next year. You’ll still get the government funding for him so shouldn’t be any worse off than you have been so far.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 12:40

Burgoo · 20/09/2022 12:25

@anerki101
Regardless of what we think/feel about it, this is the system we have. We can either resist it and be miserable or accept it and at least have less suffering.

I think you may be miserable and need to do something about it. I say that because:

"Firstly, getting up early is just dreadful. I'm not a morning person"
"Drudge of waking up at an ungodly hour five days a week"
"I am terrible with routine and having commitments"
"School run which is the worst kind of torture"
"I felt terrible he wasn't confident enough"
"My issue is with the system itself"
"We could choose the hours best suited to us"

Some ideas:

Have you not spoken to them about the bum wiping and yogurt issue? That's a fairly simple win I'd say.

You seem to have a problem with life rather than this being especially challenging? I'm curious as to how you thought having a child would not require a huge amount of organising, planning and commitment to things?

I'm hearing a lot of push back rather than acknowledgement that maybe you need to get the motivation, energy and enthusiasm to do this parenting thing. I'd suspect you may be a "yes but..." type of person though I may be completely wrong.

I'd be VERY reluctant to pathologise this. Everyone needs a label to justify their inability/unwillingness at "doing" life and I think we need to stop with labels and start thinking about solutions. Regardless of the cause (unless its something that can get treated, even then "life" isn't a diagnosis) you have to do it anyway. That's painful, horrendous and tedious AND you have no choice because you have a kid.

What can you do to make things easier? List a bunch of potential solutions to these problems and then work out how to go toward doing them.

Good luck!

I am on medication for anxiety disorder.

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unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:41

ClaraLane · 20/09/2022 12:39

Withdraw him from school and send him again next year, in the meantime you can try and get yourself a diagnosis of neurodiversity so you’re in a better mental space for when he starts next year. You’ll still get the government funding for him so shouldn’t be any worse off than you have been so far.

This is sound advice, give you and him a bit of breathing space

GingerPushkin · 20/09/2022 12:41

aw, Op! I get it- my now 16 year old son was born in August- he's my first-born.
I really feel that school has not been the best fit for him.
I mean, not dreadful, but not great.
He's a late developer to boot and has always been the little one.
certainly in secondary school i've felt he's been totally forgotten by teachers- and i understand- it's a huge school.
BUT- over time he has gained sweet, small friendship groups in both primary and secondary (often with other, summer-born boys!). and other kids have generally been fine with him- children don't necessarily like or gravitate to the loud ones, sometimes the lack of drama can attract other children.
try not to worry too much- it does get easier as they progress through the years- just small increments but it happens. the most obvious gap between your son and his peers is going to be now, when the difference between just 4 and almost 5 is huge!! my son was so very behind his peers in reception- he didn't have a clue what was going on- the teacher made no concession to this and it was a horrible time for me! i think my son was oblivious, thankfully
My son is shy, too, so i totally understand. I used to worry so much about that, but he's become his own person and I see it as a good thing now- his friendships are genuine, solid.
My biggest regret is sending him to a fucking massive city comp!! i wish i'd moved to a naice market town and found him something less daunting.
I have a daughter who was born in the winter months- my second child. The difference is huge- it's been an absolute breeze school-wise with her! but i put that down primarily to her age and circumstances.
by the way, my son insists that school has been fine- he's adamant that he prefers being one of the youngest. obviously he has nothing to compare that with, bit it's very possible that we mothers worry much more than our children.
Oh and I hear you regarding the school run- hideous at the time. Now there's a weird part of me that misses some of the mums and dads, but not all of them!

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 12:42

unicormb · 20/09/2022 11:58

I do sympathise with you OP, but there are some things we just have to do, even though they're harder for us, as neurodivergent people.

For example I'm exhausted from the three day weekend and having both of my kids at home, today was going to be my respite day to be by myself for a few hours, watch tv and do whatever I wanted (I am autistic and have an autoimmune condition, also a chronic bowel condition, and arthritis too).

But my youngest (summerborn and in reception like yours) had croup last night and looked so tired first thing I knew the right call was to keep them home to have a quiet day with me. As I type this my muscles and wrists are aching. I could probably have sent DC, but it wouldn't have been the right call for them. So here I am, more tired now and still in pain. That's parenting, though, isn't it? It's what I signed up for.

You've replied quite a few times on this thread, just wanted to say thank you. Your replies have been really helpful :)

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GingerPushkin · 20/09/2022 12:43

soory if the thread's moved on a bit since my epic post- i just wanted to offer solidarity!

Pr1mr0se · 20/09/2022 12:43

If your son is tired and emotional this is just because he is just that! Children have to operate within a lot of rules at school and when they are with family again they 'let it all out' so this reaction is completely normal. Give him a snack and drink and a hug and he'll feel better. As for the commute to school, there are possibly options if you socialise with other parents at the school to arrange shared pickup/drop off some days? That might help with your routine.

fratellia · 20/09/2022 12:43

I'd be VERY reluctant to pathologise this. Everyone needs a label to justify their inability/unwillingness at "doing" life and I think we need to stop with labels and start thinking about solutions.

Sorry but this comes across quite ignorant. Often when somebody is struggling with ‘normal life’ to such an extent there IS an underlying reason other than they are just an inferior lazy human 🙄
A diagnosis CAN be extremely helpful in many ways. Not feeling alone, connecting with others with similar diagnosis, boosting self-esteem as you realise you were not ‘broken’ or failing, medication options, finding tips and strategies that ACTUALLY WORK rather than neurotypical people harping on about ‘have you just tried a to-do list or going to bed earlier?’ because when you are neurodiverse you need to look at strategies and solutions that help neurodiverse people and usually we don’t work in the same way to ‘normal’ people. A diagnosis is often invaluable and the start of an easier life coming together.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 12:45

GingerPushkin · 20/09/2022 12:43

soory if the thread's moved on a bit since my epic post- i just wanted to offer solidarity!

No, thank you. Love the solidarity. It was a really nice and helpful post! ☺

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Rosewaterblossom · 20/09/2022 12:45

It must have even difficult to study full time with your ds at home all the time then work part time in the evening. See this as you being able to study without distraction whilst your ds is in a safe, fun environment where he's going to make friends.

Scarydinosaurs · 20/09/2022 12:47

When you think of the children DESPERATE to go to school, particularly in other countries where access is difficult, and particularly female children who have had their right to be educated taken away from them…does it not make you feel absolutely ridiculous that you’re moaning about getting up early?

We are so lucky to have the education system we have. Life is what you make of it and not a single one of your moans is actually worth time stressing about. There are so many positives about going to school they completely drown out the drawbacks.

I would go in search of a grip if I were you.

Teach12 · 20/09/2022 12:48

Why are you sending a just turned 4 year old to school? Why is he not in nursery? Yes, far too young, poor wee soul.

unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:49

You're welcome @anerki101 - ignore the people that don't understand. They won't. Can't.

Some of it is just really hard. And tiring. But you can do it, honestly. If I can, you can!

unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:50

Teach12 · 20/09/2022 12:48

Why are you sending a just turned 4 year old to school? Why is he not in nursery? Yes, far too young, poor wee soul.

Standard in England.

Gerdticker · 20/09/2022 12:52

Speak from experience, be wary of letting your negative thoughts about school impact your DS....

My own Mum had a huge chip on her shoulder about schools. For her we had to go because the law said so, no other reason. She would always side with us if we had a disagreement with a teacher, never encouraged us to do homework or after school clubs, or engage in school projects such a charity fun-runs or whatever.

I was very academic and enjoyed the work, but hated school and the teachers, and my mum encouraged these feelings.

Somehow I made it to a reasonable university but I am sad now that I wasn't encouraged to shine more at school and stretch myself further. No wonder the teachers got frustrated with my family. I think I probably had the ability to get to Oxbridge and would have enjoyed that...

Just something to be aware of x

unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:53

MistressofMuppets · 20/09/2022 12:20

@unicormb

I am keeping an eye on it. I spoke to our GP who told us that most referrals came from the school as they can check the behaviours of the child. Her primary school did an initial report but it got derailed by covid, and the teacher doing it left the school for her last year so back to square one.
So when she started secondary I spoke to the SENCo and they're putting together a fuller report.

I'm 99% sure she's on the spectrum but without a diagnosis that means nothing.

You can start the diagnosis problem. Schools don't diagnose autism.

MacarenaMacarena · 20/09/2022 12:54

If at all possible, try reframing the school run as a privilege not all mums get to enjoy. I had to work all the time, my arrangements were always costly and I never had the chance to make those friendships for my children or myself at the school gates. I'd really recommend volunteering in your child's class a couple of afternoons a week - you'll have a stronger understanding of how to support him and reinforce confidence with school routines. It could do you both a lot of good xx

unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:55

MacarenaMacarena · 20/09/2022 12:54

If at all possible, try reframing the school run as a privilege not all mums get to enjoy. I had to work all the time, my arrangements were always costly and I never had the chance to make those friendships for my children or myself at the school gates. I'd really recommend volunteering in your child's class a couple of afternoons a week - you'll have a stronger understanding of how to support him and reinforce confidence with school routines. It could do you both a lot of good xx

Nobody has to force themselves to feel lucky just because people like you don't do the school run. That's ridiculous.

Quitelikeit · 20/09/2022 12:55

I felt sad reading your post. You are struggling massively but you need to be careful as your reluctance to enter the school is giving off signals to your son that you clearly don’t like or enjoy going there.

you talk about kids on bikes and footballs - that is totally normal and you should encourage your son to be a part of it regardless of your own discomfort

when your MH impacts on your children you really do have the responsibility to fix yourself so that your behaviour doesn’t impact him

if you don’t seek help then as your sons role model he is highly likely to be just like you. V anxious.

the point of school is that it mimics work, in all sorts of ways.

encourage. Encourage. Encourage

do play dates, chat to other mums - gradually set yourself small targets eg get out of the car earlier and show your son that you think school is a good place to be not a fearful place

Mimilamore · 20/09/2022 12:56

I agree with everything you say, it's not for everyone..... glad it's all behind me now

Rosewaterblossom · 20/09/2022 12:57

unicormb · 20/09/2022 12:49

You're welcome @anerki101 - ignore the people that don't understand. They won't. Can't.

Some of it is just really hard. And tiring. But you can do it, honestly. If I can, you can!

You appear to have diagnosed the OP based on a thread on Mumsnet. The OP might not have anything of the sort and won't know anything until she goes to her GP and get referred for tests.

Honestly, people diagnosing people on Internet forums is an awful thing to do. It's like people giving "legal advice" on here when the person really should be going to a solicitor!

It's one thing to guide and to advise they go to their GP as they are showing signs of certain things. It's another thing entirely to tell them you've been diagnosed with something and it sounds like they have it too and telling them if you can do it so can they, indicating that's what they must have.

BlackeyedSusan · 20/09/2022 13:01

So sorry you are finding it difficult. I know we struggled at first. It's always an adjustment going back after the holidays too. I was hoping to have finished school runs by the time my youngest was in Secondary but one of them has additional needs and is still getting taken to school.

It does usually get better with time and practice. If it does not you could look into home schooling. There are loads of groups and activities for homeschoolers.

(Ps just seen someone has raised the neurodiversity. I am autistic and your description was similar to how I felt) going to read the rest of the thread.

ChineAndWheeseParty · 20/09/2022 13:03

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 10:25

I have to sit in the car now and wait for all the other children to go into school in the morning before I take DS in because the noise is awful. Kids on bikes, kicking footballs, shouting, etc. It's so overwhelming.

Overwhelming for who - you or your DC?

CoastalWave · 20/09/2022 13:04

amijustparanoidorjuststoned · 20/09/2022 10:39

Hi OP,

I'm going to ask something very gently and kindly here. Are you/your son neurodiverse? It isn't usual for adults to not be up and about around 7am when they have young children. You also mention about feeling overwhelmed when there is lots of noise and your son struggling socially. Have either of you ever been assessed for autism/ADHD?

If you are your son are neurodiverse, you could potentially have some extra support from the school/more options available to you if you aren't liking the school system.

^^ This.

Other it's all a bit embarrassing and you just need to stop moaning and man up.