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School is awful!

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anerki101 · 20/09/2022 09:56

DS has just started his second week in reception. It'd bloody awful, miserable and I hate every moment of it.

Firstly, getting up early is just dreadful. I'm not a morning person. I can set various different alarms, with different tones on different devices and I don't hear a single one. I have to rely on poor DH to wake me up. Sometimes I don't hear him and he has to flick me with water.

Before I had DS I had this problem with working FT too. The drudge of waking up at an ungodly hour five days a week. Spending all day in an environment you'd rather not be in with people you'd rather not be with. I'm terrible with routine and having commitments.

Then there's navigating the school run which is the worst kind of torture and you have to do it twice a day. Getting there early enough to find somewhere within walking distance to park or end up trudging miles in the pissing rain. All the parents seem to know each other already and stand around chatting in cliques.

DS is incredibly shy and struggle socially. He seems to get overlooked, forgotten and ignored. I worry dreadfully about him. He doesn't know how to interact with the other children. I fear he's going to get lost in the system both socially and educationally. He didn't eat his Yoghurt one day at school because he couldn't open it. My fault for sending something he couldn't open but I felt terrible he wasn't confident enough to ask one of the lunch time supervisors for help.

I can't help but feel it's wrong as a society that we inflict this on our four year old children. Dragging them out of bed when it's still dark, ignoring their natural body clock, shoving a slice of toast down their throats and sending them off into an unfamiliar environment five days a week. DS has only just turned four and can't yet wipe his own bum. I dread him doing a poo at school and prey that he at least does it towards the end of the day so he doesn't have to spend long covered in his own shit. He still has to be reminded to drink and every day so far he's come home with his water bottle still full to the rim.

It feels so wrong to send a just turned four year old into an environment where he has no help with wiping his bum and no encouragement to drink.

Before anyone starts, I don't for one minute blame the school or DS' teachers. They are brilliant. My issue is with the system itself. The society that requires us to send our children into this environment.

Yes, I know I don't have to. I could homeschool. But it's not that easy is it. Society isn't set up for parents to home school. Mostly, both parents need to work outside the home full time just to keep a roof over their heads.

Nursery was a far better environment. Ds went 15 hours a week. Enough for him to spend time with people outside rhe immediate family and enough for me to have a bit of time to get things done without him in tow. We could choose the hours best suited to us and what worked best for DS. Drinking wasn't an issue. He had help when using the toilet.

I know there was the option to defer school for a year and keep him in nursery for another year but we simply couldn't afford to do this. Also, DS was ready for school in an educational sense just not in an emotional and social sense.

The house feels empty without him too. I feel his absence in the silence.

Just musing really. It's nice to get my thoughts out.

Every day I pick him up from school he isn't himself. He's tired and emotional and has a tantrum over something minor before we've even walked through the front door. It's like he's holding himself in all day and letting it out when he's back with me.

He didn't even manage the first week at school, he caught covid on day four!

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FredrikaPeri · 20/09/2022 12:17

He needs to learn resilience op.
You also need to make sure that you are not transferring your bad vibes about school to your son.
Can you make a list of all the positives and try to focus on that?
Do you work?
Can DH do some of the drops?

Januarytoes · 20/09/2022 12:18

I used to have a big problem with this and this really helped me:

Get everything completely ready the night before. Your clothes all ready, DS clothes all ready, right down to coats and shoes.
Breakfast lined up.
Schoolbag ready, suitable packed lunch ready, car facing in the right direction for school.

You will not have to get up as early.
In the morning all decisions are already taken, you won't get distracted, and you just have to follow a list:

Get dressed, eat breakfast, clean teeth, walk to school.

DS will enjoy the routine.

FredrikaPeri · 20/09/2022 12:19

Oh and go to bed earlier for sure.

SpinCityBlues · 20/09/2022 12:20

(I am autistic and have an autoimmune condition, also a chronic bowel condition, and arthritis too)

@unicormb are you on any other threads on other boards? I'd love to chat to you about this. Similar combination here. Don't want to crash the OP's thread about her specific issue.

MistressofMuppets · 20/09/2022 12:20

@unicormb

I am keeping an eye on it. I spoke to our GP who told us that most referrals came from the school as they can check the behaviours of the child. Her primary school did an initial report but it got derailed by covid, and the teacher doing it left the school for her last year so back to square one.
So when she started secondary I spoke to the SENCo and they're putting together a fuller report.

I'm 99% sure she's on the spectrum but without a diagnosis that means nothing.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 20/09/2022 12:20

It's the rigidity of routine, 4 year olds being on basically a 9 - 5 working pattern five days a week

This sets them up for life. Or do you expect their future employers to revolve around 11am - 7pm? Or working whenever it suits them?

I didn't feel like this when he went to nursery so I can't understand why I feel like this now.

There is something else going on here. Please see your GP.

Softplayhooray · 20/09/2022 12:21

It's just so emotional when they first go, isn't it! Maybe he could stay at home another year if that works for your family with childcare, etc?

Everything you mention takes getting used to, but you'd be amazed in a few weeks how much better things feel when everything is more settled and familiar (for you and him).

Mine are ND and one was having accidents at school until he was 6 or 7 (kids were kind about it - he didn't get given a hard time) so I get the worry! And it is what it is with school runs...it's quite jarring going from you having them all time to this full on schedule and not seeing them for hours a day suddenly. You have my sympathy! But embrace it however you can, as there are lots of lovely things that you'll discover about it, too.

Mulhollandmagoo · 20/09/2022 12:22

Have you seen your GP for some bloods? It sounds as if you could be deficient in some vitamins for you to be so tired?? I thought something was seriously wrong with me, turns out I was severely vitamin D deficient, felt so much better once I had some high strength supplements.

DysmalRadius · 20/09/2022 12:22

MyNameIsAngelicaSchuyler · 20/09/2022 10:38

This sounds more about you than him. Try an earlier bedtime to make sure you get enough sleep. 7am is a completely normal time to get up in the week.

it also seems you’ve made your life harder by choosing a school you need to drive to, I’d consider moving him to the closest one. He’ll be nearer all his friends that way and it makes your mornings easier. I could not have coped with driving every single morning, my two have always gone to the closest school.

Isn't that a bit contradictory? On the one hand you're saying that it's all about the OP, but then you're saying that you chose your kids' school based on what was easier for you!

The OP has chosen the school she thinks it's right for her son and needs help adjusting - surely it would be more about her to send him to a less suitable school just to make the morning routine easier.

AloysiusBear · 20/09/2022 12:25

It sounds like these issues are yours, not your sons.

If he is waking between 8&10am, you aren't putting him to bed early enough. You need to gradually move his bedtime earlier - it will take several weeks. Most children don't have to be dragged from their beds for school, its more common for children to be early risers in my experience!

At four he should be able to wipe. If he can't, its because you haven't taught him - they dont magically wake up overnight able to do this at age 6. He won't be perfect at first, it takes practise. Im surprised his nursery weren't encouraging independence with this.

Practise opening food tubs etc at home.

Its normal to be shy at this age, loads are whether at nursery or school. Remember reception is Early Years Foundation stage, the same as nursery, so its not a huge shift in expectations.

Lots of children forget to drink from their bottles. He is probably having a cup with lunch anyway.

The expectations for reception in the UK really aren't terrible. Teachers know the children will get tired at first and will be making it a gentle transition. He sounds like he will be absolutely fine OP.

Thepeopleversuswork · 20/09/2022 12:25

In the nicest possible way, it sounds like most of this is about you and not him. You seem to be really struggling to cope with things that most people deal with every day. If you are neurodiverse or suffering from depression and/or anxiety then you might want to get some help with this but if you're not then you need to just learn to deal with it. Unless you're extremely wealthy you're not going to be able to duck out of getting up in the morning, getting your son to school and getting yourself to work. This is normal life.

And the drama about these fairly normal parts of day to day life doesn't send a great signal to your child either. If you can't cope with this and are stressing about pretty trivial stuff like whether he's eaten a yoghurt or not you are going to be passing a lot of this anxiety onto him and you're teaching him in the process that life is something to be struggled with and not coped with. It's not a great life lesson.

Almost everyone I know has jobs and children and we just crack on with it. The idea that you need someone to get you up in the morning and need all kinds of support to deal with normal life sounds, frankly, a bit immature. If you are struggling with your mental health its a different matter but your post made it sound as if you just haven't really adapted to life.

Burgoo · 20/09/2022 12:25

@anerki101
Regardless of what we think/feel about it, this is the system we have. We can either resist it and be miserable or accept it and at least have less suffering.

I think you may be miserable and need to do something about it. I say that because:

"Firstly, getting up early is just dreadful. I'm not a morning person"
"Drudge of waking up at an ungodly hour five days a week"
"I am terrible with routine and having commitments"
"School run which is the worst kind of torture"
"I felt terrible he wasn't confident enough"
"My issue is with the system itself"
"We could choose the hours best suited to us"

Some ideas:

Have you not spoken to them about the bum wiping and yogurt issue? That's a fairly simple win I'd say.

You seem to have a problem with life rather than this being especially challenging? I'm curious as to how you thought having a child would not require a huge amount of organising, planning and commitment to things?

I'm hearing a lot of push back rather than acknowledgement that maybe you need to get the motivation, energy and enthusiasm to do this parenting thing. I'd suspect you may be a "yes but..." type of person though I may be completely wrong.

I'd be VERY reluctant to pathologise this. Everyone needs a label to justify their inability/unwillingness at "doing" life and I think we need to stop with labels and start thinking about solutions. Regardless of the cause (unless its something that can get treated, even then "life" isn't a diagnosis) you have to do it anyway. That's painful, horrendous and tedious AND you have no choice because you have a kid.

What can you do to make things easier? List a bunch of potential solutions to these problems and then work out how to go toward doing them.

Good luck!

sóhâ‚‚wlÌ¥ · 20/09/2022 12:26

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/09/2022 11:21

My child is August born- tbh school in reception is learning through play, it's less hours that a private nursery. Everyone saying they arent ready are being a bit dramatic.

I know what it is because I had three children go through it - and eldest two found it hard despite having school year at preschool and despite being taken out a lot to groups before that.

I think some of it's personality not just age or even sensory overload- even now older two struggle in large noisy settings.

For one of mine it did seem more structured the day happier they were - so more sitting at desks, clear expectations and less noise and free play happier they were - hard to separate from them getting older and school changing but still noticed by teachers.

I do agree the OP should give it time to settle down - it's only a few weeks in.

LilacPoppy · 20/09/2022 12:28

Put him back in nursery you get 30 free hours until term after his 5th birthday. They can't take his place away as long as you send him back by day one of summer term or January term if he turns 5 before then.

YennefersDress · 20/09/2022 12:29

With respect it does sound like this is more about you and the fact that you've never liked getting up in the mornings. It must be quite stressful for your husband too.

You're overthinking about bum wiping, just teach him! If he doesn't get the hang of it perfectly to start with, he will eventually and it's a bit of a non issue to start with. In EYFS they're used to having to help the kids at times and also really used to dealing with accidents. Both my kids had accidents at school- no big deal. There's no point stressing on stuff like this- in a few years you'll wonder why it was such an issue.

He's only just started, it does feel intense in the beginning but it does calm down and become normal- just keep going with it and it will settle down.

Pengwinn · 20/09/2022 12:29

Request a transfer to the school that's nearer. Surely DH can help more with school related stuff. It's only been a few weeks, there will be many other children of a similar personality to him. If you really hate it defer his entry so he starts in Sept. Check nothing medically going on that prevents you waking and getting up at a reasonable time- if ifs just laziness then grow up.

mellongoose · 20/09/2022 12:30

Some helpful advice from PP on here. At the end of the day, it's your job to set him up for the world we all live in.

  • Basic hygiene and skills
  • Daily routine
  • Positive outlook and enthusiasm for life
  • Resilience

I find it difficult from time to time but I suck it up because my child's life and her future chances are what's important.

TheClogLady · 20/09/2022 12:30

I laugh with recognition at your post.

My eldest really needed the structure of school - he has ASD and life with an artsy, spontaneous, rubbish-at-time-keeping mother wasn’t something he was able to appreciate until fairly recently (he’s 22 now!)

you’ll get used to it and your kids will have a rounded experience and know what is expected of them in a variety of scenarios.

I am definitely not equipped to teach my children order and routine and I am thankful that school fills that gap.

I try not to undermine the school nor give my kids whiplash between the two different environments.

i agree with Januarytoes re: creating systems that put the majority of mum-organising in the evening rather than the morning (I am not a morning person either, I’m best around mid afternoon - teatime!)

The older they get, the more organised they become for themselves and the less you have to do on a day to day basis - it’s a gradual change but before you know it they will be walking to school with mates (geography permitting) and you’ll be wondering how to fit yourself back into the workplace!

Aug12 · 20/09/2022 12:30

would you consider home educating at all? Or flexi-schooling so he only attends part time?

Menwithvenn · 20/09/2022 12:32

I do know what you mean - it seems such a lot for a very little person to deal with. My sister is August born and was kept back a year - can you do this? Your son does sound as though he may not be ready.

I myself do wonder if the school environment is the best thing for all kids. I was mostly fine but I definitely preferred secondary school, although I remember very little about primary school and especially my reception year! Sometimes I do think about our school system and how it plays a part in a very unequal society. However it is unfortunately the way of the world and we do have to work. Personally I am looking into finding out more about home ed so I can decide what's best for my son when the time comes.

sóhâ‚‚wlÌ¥ · 20/09/2022 12:32

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 12:13

I just miss him so much. I didn't feel like this when he went to nursery so I can't understand why I feel like this now.

It's more of the day - and if he coming home tired and not in best of mood than the time you do get before bed can feel like not quality time more something to get through.

Can feel like all day fits around the school - you do adjust - they adjust and get more pleasant in time they are around. Plus your worried about him fitting in and coping - so everything feels worse.

Keep positive and talk to his teachers - find things that make it easier for you top cope with school run routine and wait and see if things settle.

LilacPoppy · 20/09/2022 12:36

and as I'm abysmal at maths, DH says DS definitely needs to be at school! and where did you learn maths ? I am guessing at school.

BogRollBOGOF · 20/09/2022 12:37

These petty nuisences of everyday life seem to be disproportionately big, and there are various traits of being neurodiverse in the mix here.

Investigating conditions such as ADHD or ASD isn't about making excuses, it's about understanding behaviours and being able to find more appropriate coping strategies.

Neurodiverse or not, you may find the youtube channel How To ADHD interesting; sometimes she covers overlaps with other forms of neurodiversity. She's covered some of the topics that OP raises.

DS has ASD and was diagnosed at 9. Mainstream school is still the best practical option for him. Just the awareness that he thinks differently and why helps, but while some aspects of school life are hard, he does learn from peer interactions and he does need those external routines to function even if it's not easy.

mam0918 · 20/09/2022 12:37

I also have a 4 year old, their natural body clock gets him up at 6 fucking am rain, sunshine, dark or light.... Im not a morning person either, Im a walking zombie but how are you not getting up early with young kids?

Im disabled (brain damage) and as a result I have a virtual incapability to learn routine and struggle greatly with fatigue, Im what an outsider who doesnt understand my disability would call 'extremely lazy' but your discription sound extreme even to me.

Not physically being able to wake up is a major safety risk when your in charge of children, I genuinely think you should seek out a medical opinion as you could have some disorder and many things like common imbalances can be easily treated.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 12:38

LilacPoppy · 20/09/2022 12:36

and as I'm abysmal at maths, DH says DS definitely needs to be at school! and where did you learn maths ? I am guessing at school.

Yes 🤣 but to be fair, I didn't go to school very much! I just don't have the brain for maths. I'm more of a creative type. I prefer the humanities.

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