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Wanting to spend Christmas Day in my home

78 replies

Niye · 18/09/2022 14:00

Hi 👋 I'm trying to work out if I'm BU after an exchange with DH.

Bit of background first: I've lived in UK for 12 yrs but am neither Brit nor is Christmas a religious festival for me. And my family live on an entirely different continent
This is important for what I'm about to describe.

For the last 12 years, I've spent Christmas holidays at my now IN LAWS' place. First mostly at now MIL place and then a few times at SIL place. I have respected their Christmas traditions (they aren't religious though, except MIL who goes for Christmas Eve service) and done everything,. perhaps sometimes more, that's been asked of me. For e.g. the first year , I wanted to bring something along as it's rude where I'm from to go empty handed especially for a festival. I was asked to bring a small joint of gammon. I'd never eaten pork before , let alone cook , however was happy to do it and brought that along, which was much appreciated and sort of became my thing to bring in addition to general food items and drinks.

When SIL had kids and they were young, the whole day's set up and routine was shifted to accommodate the children's routines and again, was happy to skip breakfast to be able to eat Christmas dinner at 12pm.sharp.

Guess the point I'm trying to make is that whoever needed whatever doing, I did, happily.

In this time period, I've offered to host Christmas twice. Once when I was the fiance and when I became wife. Both times I was told that DH's grandma would struggle with some thing or the other in our home Vs. in MIL/SIL place so couldn't host at ours. Both times DH grandma didn't attend Christmas at either of those residences.

Anyway, fast forward a few years and now we are a family of our own. DH and DS who is a toddler and understands Christmas enough to partake and appreciate the bells and whistles.

This morning we were talking about Christmas events we've booked and I mentioned needing to keep Fri and Sat free for Christmas prep. To which DH asked if it meant I wanted to spend Christmas Day just us at home. I said yes. Conversation went on back and forth and at one point he said well it'll be boring just us 3. I reminded him of all the times in the past however many years when he has complained about how boring Christmas was at his parents and sister's. He admits that but rebuttled that Christmas is about family. So I said yes we are a family and I'd like to have Christmas in my home with my family establishing our own family traditions for the day. I said we'd go wherever needed on boxing Day for a few days so time is spent with the in laws. The conversation went back and forth a bit and basically left at stalemate.

I felt quite hurt by this exchange and DH comment that it.will be boring just us 3. His family weren't around when DS was born in Dec 2020. MIL met DS 19 days later to drop off some presents, didn't offer to help with anything, couldn't get out the door fast enough. And no, there were no restrictions then. She then came to see DS 8 months later in late summer 2021. For a day.

SIL didn't visit until DS was 6 months.

And there are other bits and things (actions), especially around DS and their, what I feel, failure to show up for DS and DH after DS birth. But this isn't about that. DH knows how their actions made me feel. However, despite their absence, I've never said no to family get togethers etc.

I'm at that point where I feel I've been the dutiful gf,.fiance and wife and treated his family like mine. However, can't say that has been reciprocated. And I'm at that point point where I feel I've done enough and now it's time for us as a family to have our own Christmas Day traditions and build memories. I don't feel the slightest inclination to make any further accommodations for mil/sil Christmas wishes and wants anymore.

I'd like to think I've been fair. And I've been feeling really off since DH and my exchange.

Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
quietnightmare · 18/09/2022 14:03

Do whatever is best for your child and what your child would prefer

Always4Brenner · 18/09/2022 14:13

Ok send him to his family you stay at home and have the best Christmas ever. It’s time for us all to be selfish this year and do what we want.

ClocksGoingBackwards · 18/09/2022 14:16

Yanbu but you will still have to compromise in future years if your DH isn’t happy to be at home just you three every year.

Ilikewinter · 18/09/2022 14:16

Yes I feel youve been entirely fair and deserve the Christmas you want

Mybumlooksbig · 18/09/2022 14:24

YANBU. You should have the Christmas you want xx

deeperthanallroses · 18/09/2022 14:25

It sounds like you are being very fair!

Unicorn717 · 18/09/2022 14:31

Stay at home for Christmas if that's what you want to do.

The last few years we've had to go for dinner somewhere else and ended up at other peoples houses for most of the day and it's not the same. I prefer being at home and being able to do things how I would want to. (It is nice to see everyone but it's a lot).

Maybe compromise and say every other year you'll do in laws or whatever so it evens out but if you have kids etc, they will probably wanna be at home with new toys and all the rest of it too.

You should be able to enjoy the day. And there are other days where you can visit everyone else.

Watapalava · 18/09/2022 14:32

To be honest I think the things you’re complaining about are tiny and pretty normal

id be thinking that you were happy having xmas together and letting someone else host when you had nothing else to do and now you’re sacking them off

i also agree with dh xmas would be boring just 3 at home- we’ve done it once in 17 years and it was rubbish just like any other Sunday

as a compromise why not state you’re doing it at home and people are welcome but that you won’t be going elsewhere

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/09/2022 14:36

Stay at home! It’s time to start your own traditions. It’s up to the two of you to make it fun and special, it’ll only be boring if he chooses to be a miserable dick about it.

As for “compromise”, no one’s compromised for you over the last 12 years so it’s a bit fucking rich to expect you to keep overlooking your own wants and wishes to maintain a status quo that doesn’t make you happy. Put yourself and your little one first.

heldinadream · 18/09/2022 14:40

You sound extremely reasonable to me OP.

But Ioathe and detest Christmas.

Even so. You sound like a kind, accommodating, and reasonable person who now wants something and is going to test out digging her heels in. So I would like to cheer you on and say go for it. #teamNiye. 😉

Iamblossom · 18/09/2022 14:40

Up and down the land this exact issue causes grief in so many households, including ours. I've always wanted to spend Xmas day with my dad and sisters, and their families, in my dad's large house which is where I grew up, and I have insisted my sons and husband join me in doing that. My husband has complied but would much rather be at home cooking for us and having our own day. He loved lock down Xmas 😁. We did it one year when the boys were small and it was boring, and hard work.

Now they boys are older we will have Xmas day much more on our own, let them sleep late, have a really laid back day doing whatever we want, pub at lunch time to see friends etc, presents whenever, eat whatever we want whenever we want, no timetable.

I don't really have an answer other than to day it is completely impossible to please everybody no matter how hard you try so if you can suit yourself without massively causing WW3 then I would say go for it.

Lcb123 · 18/09/2022 14:40

Stay home -nice to have time the 3 of you.
one of my fave Christmas was during lockdown just me and husband. So
much more relaxing

Watapalava · 18/09/2022 14:41

But op has happily allowed someone else to cater for xmas for xxx amount of years

yes she brought a gammon but it costs a fortune to host xmas

going full on ‘leave us out’ suggests they’ve used them all this time

Iamblossom · 18/09/2022 14:41

*say

Aubriella · 18/09/2022 14:42

YANBU, stay at home and enjoy Christmas the way you want to.

Would you mind if DH went to his family on his own?

dworky · 18/09/2022 14:43

ClocksGoingBackwards · 18/09/2022 14:16

Yanbu but you will still have to compromise in future years if your DH isn’t happy to be at home just you three every year.

The utter hideousness of spending a family holiday with your own wife & child!

PicturesOfDogs · 18/09/2022 14:44

Are you close enough to get round there?

As children were born, the thing became to have dinner etc with respective families in the daytime, and then all visited at the matriarchs in the evening.

Could be a compromise?

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable to want to start your own traditions and do your own thing though.

mac1974 · 18/09/2022 14:44

Over the last 4 years we have started to have Christmas at our house due to our kids. We invite MIL, BIL & my parents & they tend to join us. It's a lovely chilled out day. Put yourselves first it will fall into place.

Niye · 18/09/2022 14:47

Always4Brenner · 18/09/2022 14:13

Ok send him to his family you stay at home and have the best Christmas ever. It’s time for us all to be selfish this year and do what we want.

Have suggested but DH doesn't want to do it. Wouldn't look right.

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 18/09/2022 14:49

Congratulations, you are now experiencing a real Christmas tradition - arguing with your spouse about where to spend it!😂

I would actually say to him (next time you have this debate) that Christmas is for the children, not the adults in the family. You wouldn’t want to take your son away from his new toys on Christmas morning, would you?

But other than that, don’t get too bitter about the efforts you have made that you don’t feel have been appreciated or reciprocated. Just accept it as what you were willing to do at the time. Circumstances are different this time and therefore so is what you are willing to do. You can change your mind about participating in traditions (or creating new ones) at any time and for any reason.

Do your own thing and had have fun with your son! Hopefully, your husband will catch some Christmas spirit but if he doesn’t, that is his loss. Remind him that Christmas is for the children and he isn’t one anymore!

notanothertakeaway · 18/09/2022 14:53

My DH likes a small family Christmas, just us and kids

I like a bigger family Christmas, with my family and / or his, and am happy to cook or travel to visit other people

So we take it in turns to choose. One year, we stay home (his choice). The next, we spend with some combination of wider family (my choice). Could you do something similar?

mamabear715 · 18/09/2022 14:55

I think you've been more than fair.
Is there anything your DH doesn't like about spending Christmas with family? (I note you said he could get bored.) I'd work on him saying we could do x, y & z if we're on our own.. :-)
He has his own child now, as PP's have said, time to build your own traditions.

It's always just me & my 3 youngest, partly as my youngest is ASD & would just sit in his room all day if we had other people over, so that's not happening. We have a wonderful time, eat when we want, play games, scoff chocolates, watch Christmas films & just generally enjoy being just us!
I hope all works out for you - have a great time!

Niye · 18/09/2022 15:01

Watapalava · 18/09/2022 14:41

But op has happily allowed someone else to cater for xmas for xxx amount of years

yes she brought a gammon but it costs a fortune to host xmas

going full on ‘leave us out’ suggests they’ve used them all this time

Sorry but you make assumptions about me. I could get into all the details but that would make for an awfully long post. but here's some examples of what we bring every year:

  • half joint of gammon which isn't cheap
  • an evening meal for the following day which typicall 8-10 adults eat. Again not cheap.
-wine and bubbly for the table
  • gifts for mil /fil even though adults don't do gifts
  • dessert
  • cheese board
  • salad items
  • coffee

Etc. Stuff to last over a few days.

So no , it isn't and was never a case of us freeloading. And my bad for missing in the post , but the invite goes to all in the in laws without question. Always has been. But DH' and I both know, they won't want to come here.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 18/09/2022 15:02

YANBU
When you have children, it is time to make traditions of your own and small children take precedence. Your in laws have had their own way all these years for their children. I would feel as if I’ve been used as props if they haven’t bothered to visit.

I’d have Christmas Day at home and invite in laws either Christmas Day or Boxing Day and ignore any objections.

Niye · 18/09/2022 15:03

Watapalava · 18/09/2022 14:32

To be honest I think the things you’re complaining about are tiny and pretty normal

id be thinking that you were happy having xmas together and letting someone else host when you had nothing else to do and now you’re sacking them off

i also agree with dh xmas would be boring just 3 at home- we’ve done it once in 17 years and it was rubbish just like any other Sunday

as a compromise why not state you’re doing it at home and people are welcome but that you won’t be going elsewhere

Yep, have said that. And will say that again when Christmas comes up in conversation with in laws this year. But DH and I know deep down it will be politely explained away.

Long post and I missed writing in OP. Apologies.

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