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Wanting to spend Christmas Day in my home

78 replies

Niye · 18/09/2022 14:00

Hi 👋 I'm trying to work out if I'm BU after an exchange with DH.

Bit of background first: I've lived in UK for 12 yrs but am neither Brit nor is Christmas a religious festival for me. And my family live on an entirely different continent
This is important for what I'm about to describe.

For the last 12 years, I've spent Christmas holidays at my now IN LAWS' place. First mostly at now MIL place and then a few times at SIL place. I have respected their Christmas traditions (they aren't religious though, except MIL who goes for Christmas Eve service) and done everything,. perhaps sometimes more, that's been asked of me. For e.g. the first year , I wanted to bring something along as it's rude where I'm from to go empty handed especially for a festival. I was asked to bring a small joint of gammon. I'd never eaten pork before , let alone cook , however was happy to do it and brought that along, which was much appreciated and sort of became my thing to bring in addition to general food items and drinks.

When SIL had kids and they were young, the whole day's set up and routine was shifted to accommodate the children's routines and again, was happy to skip breakfast to be able to eat Christmas dinner at 12pm.sharp.

Guess the point I'm trying to make is that whoever needed whatever doing, I did, happily.

In this time period, I've offered to host Christmas twice. Once when I was the fiance and when I became wife. Both times I was told that DH's grandma would struggle with some thing or the other in our home Vs. in MIL/SIL place so couldn't host at ours. Both times DH grandma didn't attend Christmas at either of those residences.

Anyway, fast forward a few years and now we are a family of our own. DH and DS who is a toddler and understands Christmas enough to partake and appreciate the bells and whistles.

This morning we were talking about Christmas events we've booked and I mentioned needing to keep Fri and Sat free for Christmas prep. To which DH asked if it meant I wanted to spend Christmas Day just us at home. I said yes. Conversation went on back and forth and at one point he said well it'll be boring just us 3. I reminded him of all the times in the past however many years when he has complained about how boring Christmas was at his parents and sister's. He admits that but rebuttled that Christmas is about family. So I said yes we are a family and I'd like to have Christmas in my home with my family establishing our own family traditions for the day. I said we'd go wherever needed on boxing Day for a few days so time is spent with the in laws. The conversation went back and forth a bit and basically left at stalemate.

I felt quite hurt by this exchange and DH comment that it.will be boring just us 3. His family weren't around when DS was born in Dec 2020. MIL met DS 19 days later to drop off some presents, didn't offer to help with anything, couldn't get out the door fast enough. And no, there were no restrictions then. She then came to see DS 8 months later in late summer 2021. For a day.

SIL didn't visit until DS was 6 months.

And there are other bits and things (actions), especially around DS and their, what I feel, failure to show up for DS and DH after DS birth. But this isn't about that. DH knows how their actions made me feel. However, despite their absence, I've never said no to family get togethers etc.

I'm at that point where I feel I've been the dutiful gf,.fiance and wife and treated his family like mine. However, can't say that has been reciprocated. And I'm at that point point where I feel I've done enough and now it's time for us as a family to have our own Christmas Day traditions and build memories. I don't feel the slightest inclination to make any further accommodations for mil/sil Christmas wishes and wants anymore.

I'd like to think I've been fair. And I've been feeling really off since DH and my exchange.

Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
MollyRover · 18/09/2022 18:11

Luredbyapomegranate · 18/09/2022 17:58

I don’t think you get any massive points for attending his family Christmases - none of it sounds like a big deal, and your family are n’t here to go to. So I wouldn’t make heavy whether of that because it will piss him off.

Perfectly fair enough to do C’mas at home now you have kids. It probably will be a bit boring, for your son as well as DH if the in laws don’t come. Hopefully they will, but if not think I think the compromise would be one year at home one year at SILs.

it’s also perhaps worth DH having a word with his sister and saying he’s really like her to come.

Agree with this, but also think you're underestimating the tradition of Christmas for your DH, something he would have done since childhood. You don't have a Christmas tradition so what difference does this one day a year make? Take one of your family or national traditions- would you appreciate having to compromise because your DH wanted to do it differently? I also live abroad from my family, but my DH and ILs know they'll have to pry my traditional (ie exactly the same bloody thing every single year) out of my cold dead hands. Would laugh in their faces if they tried to change it when it wasn't even something that they celebrated to be honest.

Niye · 18/09/2022 19:00

MollyRover · 18/09/2022 18:11

Agree with this, but also think you're underestimating the tradition of Christmas for your DH, something he would have done since childhood. You don't have a Christmas tradition so what difference does this one day a year make? Take one of your family or national traditions- would you appreciate having to compromise because your DH wanted to do it differently? I also live abroad from my family, but my DH and ILs know they'll have to pry my traditional (ie exactly the same bloody thing every single year) out of my cold dead hands. Would laugh in their faces if they tried to change it when it wasn't even something that they celebrated to be honest.

I wish I could list out the traditions or lack of at the in laws. Many people have alluded to feeling like just another Sunday when they've done Christmas by themselves.

Currently, Christmas at the in laws , is very much like a Sunday get together with a Christmas tree in one corner to remind that it is in fact Christmas.

And that's why I'm keen to start my own family traditions. Doing something Christmassy together in the lead up ,I don't know, maybe decorate a gingerbread house or something.

On the day go for a nice walk , relax , song ( even though it's not a religious festival for me, I have growing up, celebrated Christmas, we'd sing carols , do a nativity, used to be so much fun!) , Music etc.

I'd love nothing more than for all that with the in laws. But it won't happen. And that is why the one day that is a pretty big deal of a day , is important to me to establish Christmas traditions with my young family.

OP posts:
elizaregina · 18/09/2022 19:10

Op ignore what a palava.

Of course you haven't blood

KatieB55 · 18/09/2022 19:13

Exactly my experience. I completely understand your point. We spent time with the ILs before or after Xmas day once we had kids. PILs came to us most years and that was fine.

elizaregina · 18/09/2022 19:13

Bloody used them. .

The point is they don't seem to include you or like you,they didn't bother with your baby and you don't feel like one of the family.
.
That's the bottom line.

You didn't say " my in laws adore me, they have made such an effort over the years,and adore D's but I feel guilty I just want to do my own Xmas".

No.

Don't do it.

supadupapupascupa · 18/09/2022 19:16

Kids want to be at home with all their gifts Xmas day. I think it's awful dragging them here there and everywhere.

Xmas is at home, open invitation to anyone who wants to join us.

Once the kids are grown up we expect to go to them alternatively if invited

CatLadyDrinksGin · 18/09/2022 19:31

I’m white British pseudo Christian and I don’t eat pork/bacon/gammon for anyone, disgusting stuff. Christmas is one of those things that matters more to some than others. I have made an effort to see extended family wherever possible as I think it’s selfish to exclude the older/child free just to make life easier “as our own little family”. However there’s a balance to be had with travelling/inviting people to stay/meeting up over the festive period but not necessarily Christmas Day and that a huge negotiation. I wouldn’t leave family alone even if I find them difficult or it means people sleeping on air beds. I would try and see them between Christmas and new year if that was possible.

elizaregina · 18/09/2022 19:39

difficult is one thing...

Rude, inclusive is another. ...

CurbsideProphet · 18/09/2022 19:46

I really sympathise. I only get the bank holidays off work at Christmas and have spent every Christmas day with my in laws. We haven't had time to make any traditions of our own, as if Christmas Eve is a weekday I work as normal and then we're straight into a long Christmas day at MILs. I will have had my baby by this Christmas and finally will be having the day in my own home 🙏🏻

Bestcatmum · 18/09/2022 19:46

I really cannot understand this appalling Xmas tradition of staying with relatives you don't even like and travelling vast distances to do so.
There isn't enough valium in the world to get me through Xmas with family. I spend every Xmas at home alone with my cats and I don't care what any of them think about it.

user1487194234 · 18/09/2022 19:48

Personally I never understand just wanting Christmas with the nuclear family,so am with your DH
But you are perfectly entitled to do that if that’s what you want

Alucadekena · 18/09/2022 20:01

How lovely that your Dh thinks that spending the day with his wife and child will be boring. Surely watching your child open their presents and playing with them will be quite lovely and yes surely a time for you to make your own traditions. Put your foot down.

DayOfTheTentacle · 19/09/2022 08:42

Alucadekena · 18/09/2022 20:01

How lovely that your Dh thinks that spending the day with his wife and child will be boring. Surely watching your child open their presents and playing with them will be quite lovely and yes surely a time for you to make your own traditions. Put your foot down.

I think it would be boring too. It would just feel like a normal day with the added bonus of getting up super early. I want to share all my DSs excitement with my DPs.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 08:55

Unfortunately due to personal loss I've spent Xmas in many different ways.
I've never had this regimented life others seem to have had eg Xmas lunch on the dot at 12.
Open presents at 11.
Games at 4.

Xmas day has always however felt different and special evrn on my own.
Xmas day has always felt special when it was just DH and I or DH and I and DC 1.
It's a feeling, music, candle's ( battery now) ,the decorations....

The food,the table...

Presents.
Conversely other places have not felt as Xmassy due to lack of decor, music...low lighting or just goodwill.

I would feel pretty upset if DH had said it was boring?

I can't see how it can be boring. ..I usually found other days a personal challenge like boxing day so we try and do a panto that day.
I don't think they feel it, just me.

FitFat · 19/09/2022 09:08

I feel sorry for you OP. You just want to have some autonomy to make some reasonable choices but you end up labelled as an evil DIL / troublemakers. Shame your DH is being stubborna and doenst havr his wife's back - thats what a good DH would do. You dont need to feel guilty, thats for sure!

KoalaCape · 19/09/2022 09:13

I think your DH is forgetting that many couples will alternate which parents they spend Christmas with. All my friends will spend one year with husband's family on Christmas day, then wife's family the next year, perhaps host husband's family the following year etc. Your DH is in the position that he's never had to go to his in-laws for Christmas day as you've always gone to his parents. Therefore, he's probably totally forgotten that an element of compromise and alternating the celebrations is normal in a relationship where both couples celebrate Christmas. Remind him that many people take it in turns to spend Christmas with their parents and you're not even asking this of him; his family is welcome every Christmas but just in your own home. He's got a much better deal than many others (yourself included!) who have to spend it with in-laws and not their own family.

If DH won't admit he's had a great deal until now then he's a fool!

dustybluebell · 19/09/2022 09:26

Nope no being unreasonable.

MumCanIDoThat · 19/09/2022 09:31

Yanbu, we did the extended family thing until we had our own dc. Since then it has been at our home, anyone welcome to join but we are staying put. We found that just us and the kids were a family and more than enough. There was no way I was carting around dc from house to house when they much preferred to stay and play at home. And no way I slogging away in the kitchen preparing food for a gaggle of people and not spending time with my kids. I think you need to put your foot down op, it's bound to happen at some point. It's also completely not in the interests of you and your DC.

UWhatNow · 19/09/2022 09:35

supadupapupascupa · 18/09/2022 19:16

Kids want to be at home with all their gifts Xmas day. I think it's awful dragging them here there and everywhere.

Xmas is at home, open invitation to anyone who wants to join us.

Once the kids are grown up we expect to go to them alternatively if invited

Yes exactly this.

You need to impress on your DH that his own child will want Christmas traditions with his mummy and daddy. He needs to make that happen for his own child. And yes, it’s about family, so if they want to make the effort, they can come to you for a change.

Break the mould op. Or it’ll never happen.

SolemnlySwear2010 · 19/09/2022 09:36

YANBU - we love having Christmas at home, and it's only me, DH and DD.

We do it year about - one year we go to my family's, next year we have it alone, then the following year we go to my in laws.

Means we keep everyone happy, but we definitely love the times its just us at home

HopingNotCoping · 19/09/2022 09:37

YANBU at all. Remind DH that if your family were closer and celebrated Christmas he'd have had only half the Christmases with his family from the off. I can see why he's upset not to see his wider family. But as long as his family are welcome with you, then it's not you stopping it being a big family Christmas - it's them he needs to talk to.

Personally I'd love it if someone else in the family stepped up to host, but I only feel that way after a few years of doing it all myself! You should get the chance OP, and he should see you've been more than fair.

Threelittlelambs · 19/09/2022 09:37

I wonder if his mother wouldn’t mind a year off preparing dinner so so many people and the cost to her must huge, even with contributions!!

Id stick to my plans, tell him this is what you are doing this year and you will reevaluate next year. Book some nice things to do and go shopping together.

I secretly think your DH enjoys the rock up and do nothing approach.

Marvellousmadness · 19/09/2022 09:39

Stop saying things like fair
Stop with the gigantic backstory

All you need is a mouth
And say: we are having Christmas at our house or you (dh) can go to your family by yourself

Just speak up. Take control.

brookstar · 19/09/2022 09:46

Kids want to be at home with all their gifts Xmas day. I think it's awful dragging them here there and everywhere.

Xmas is at home, open invitation to anyone who wants to join us.

Once the kids are grown up we expect to go to them alternatively if invited

This.
We spent one year travelling all over to see family and vowed never to do it again while DS was young. We had a couple of years where it was just us three and that was lovely.
We now host Christmas Day for the ILs which they seem to enjoy.

billy1966 · 19/09/2022 10:02

YANBU.

I think children love having Christmas in their own home.

I would be very disappointed if my husband described it as boring!

Stick to your guns, you have been more than accommodating.

Send him to his mothers if he is so desperate for excitement.

You have been too accommodating for too long, unfortunately that invariably comes backbto bite you on the ass.

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