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Is the UK suffering from mass hysteria?

458 replies

User135644 · 16/09/2022 19:19

The Queen's passing is sad and seismic and the funeral will be a special occasion.

However, people genuinely seem to have gone mad.

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Mothership4two · 18/09/2022 03:03

Same here @Blinky21 no-one is talking about it other than the occasional "going up to London to join the queue then?" joke. I live in Southern England.

MarshaBradyo · 18/09/2022 06:55

BooseysMom · 18/09/2022 02:28

sunglassesonthetable · Today 02:12

I haven’t gone mad.

I’m at work eating a Shepard’s pie.

my favourite@TheLightSideOfTheMoon

Crying

Yes that was brilliant. Also loved this...

I imagine the pigeons will make use of the sandwiches. I don't think white bread and marmalade are good for them but they will have to make do.

Haha at they will have to make do, v good

Juced · 18/09/2022 06:59

🤣🤣…that’s insane! Tbh I think anybody queuing to see a coffin that isn’t their immediate relative or friend is very bizarre!

Electricfairy · 18/09/2022 07:20

I think there's a kind of self-dramatisation that's part of a delusion about British 'exceptionalism'. Which led to the folly of Brexit, and which keeps hierarchies in place, including the old Etonians who've loomed so large in the government for so long.

roxyro · 18/09/2022 08:21

No. Just normal mourning for a much loved and respected Monarch that devoted her life to this country. People are paying their respects. You don’t have to take part.

containsnuts · 18/09/2022 08:21

There's this example of hysteria but the bit that shocks me the most reads:

7 year old girl "has been up since two o’clock this morning. She has been in a queue for 15 hours”

😮

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/17/girl-pushed-aside-queen-coffin-incident-funeral

Diverseopinions · 18/09/2022 08:22

Electricfairy

I find myself recognising a synergy between sporting fandom and the collective sense of belonging, that we see at royal events like the current one . Since passion for sport is feature throughout the globe, I don't link it to feelings of British 'exceptionalism'.

I think there is an element of feeling oneself a part of a drama playing out; and a recognition that state occasions and football games both contain symbolism. A game of football can often seem as a metaphor for the set backs and fight backs of everyday life. A state occasions, such as a funeral of the monarch, or the annual laying of wreaths at the Cenotaph can seem like a symbolising of deep feelings about community.

Like with football, key royal 'players' and the public are joined in a symbiotic relationship, At times of enactment the two groups can seem to become one - especially when fans rush into the pitch and maybe get given a shirt. These times at the end of a game seem highly dramatic, but nobody is dramatising themselves and being arrogant.

The football team couldn't survive without the many fans and the fans would have nothing without the players. They need each other and they are equally important partners. The team are there to put on a show for the supporters, to serve them, as the monarchy are there to represent and serve the people.

So events like this state funeral are there to show the people as the key players, and I think that those who queue up do feel this and don't think of themselves as behaving like serfs. They know that if nobody turned up to see the procession, the monarchy would soon have to fold. Those who queue can only be doing so because they genuinely believe in something. They aren't fools who have been brainwashed and made hysterical. They are calm and resolved. They probably feel that some discomfort and standing is what the young Queen put up when on full-on royal duties. They probably feel happy to do something in return - to honour her service.

Ayabbadabbado · 18/09/2022 08:23

The media coverage has gone mad. May she RIP.
i am not in favour of a monarchy.

RIPQueen · 18/09/2022 08:23

The queue thing is absolutely insane

sorcerersapprentice · 18/09/2022 08:30

It's bonkers. Three days of queue coverage with people all basically saying the same thing. she was an impressive woman and I did admire and like her but this extended period of mourning is really starting to do my head in.

InstantMagic · 18/09/2022 08:34

I live in London. I work in a large organisation. I don’t know anybody - family, friends, colleagues - who has joined the queue or gone down to lay flowers.

People are respectfully acknowledging the passing of the Queen (whatever their beliefs about monarchy)…and getting on with their lives.

Most people quietly pleased to be getting a day off work tomorrow.

No hysteria, not even a huge amount of interest, if I’m being honest.

letsallmeetupinthehyear2000 · 18/09/2022 08:34

I don’t see any hysteria - I see people genuinely sad about the queen’s death. There will always be a period of mourning when a king or queen dies. if you don’t like it turn off your social media.

Shadow212 · 18/09/2022 08:35

I would queue up for 14.5 hrs if I was meeting an alien 🤔

Jedsnewstar · 18/09/2022 08:36

London is but only Londoners think they are centre of the world. Everywhere else can see it for what it is. A very elderly lady died surrounded by family in her favourite place after living a privileged life. She seemed very kind and dutiful but the millions and millions of tax payers money we are spending on the pomp, during a time when so many people are in poverty, is obscene.

CurbsideProphet · 18/09/2022 08:37

I'm surprised by all the children who are apparently feeling very sad about the Queen passing away. I keep hearing it on the radio and during the queue interviews. When I was a child I would have had no emotional reaction to a 96 year old stranger passing away. Are the schools and parents actively encouraging this?

Roxy69 · 18/09/2022 08:44

No. I'm not seeing hysteria, I do think people realise they are seeing 'living history' though and want to take part in it. It's also being reported more widely nowadays because of the increase in media. Why not just allow others to do what they wish in the way that they wish it?

middleager · 18/09/2022 08:45

Some of the behaviour is OTT.
I felt the same about some behaviour during the pandemic.

Believeinyou · 18/09/2022 08:51

i'm not seeing any mass hysteria at all - maybe a few oddities here and there but mostly calm and measured. I don't think the queing is mass hysteria either. It's a significant historical moment and i think that's what's driving a lot of people.

Now Diana was a different matter - there was footage of people wailing and howling, dropping to their knees etc. but I think the shock was driving that - it felt shocking - this time is doesnt at all

BMW6 · 18/09/2022 08:54

There was hysteria at Diana's death sure, but not now ( people taking a mother's ashes to the Lying in State are not hysterical, just peculiar)

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2022 08:55

Not in RL.

Maybe on SM. But you know.

Off to walk the dog.

FabFitFifties · 18/09/2022 08:59

I do feel that if the media wasn't covering the queue non stop, it would be a lot shorter. I also thought, how undignified it all is for the Queen, and her family. Started to wonder, is she really there? Or is she really being allowed to RIP, somewhere private. 🤔

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2022 09:07

I do feel that if the media wasn't covering the queue non stop, it would be a lot shorter. I also thought, how undignified it all is for the Queen, and her family. Started to wonder, is she really there? Or is she really being allowed to RIP, somewhere private. 🤔

Did the media make the queue or the queue create the media interest?

The organisers did predict it would be 24hrs right at the beginning and I don't think it's got as long as that.

The people walking through Westminster Hall look the opposite of hysterical tbh.

In this country I think any fulsome outward emotion is pretty often liable to be labelled as 'hysteria'.

MrsFezziwig · 18/09/2022 09:08

notprettybeautiful · 18/09/2022 00:16

I hate the whole concept of monarchy. This situation is ridiculous! We should be having a vote on whether it's time to dissolve the monarchy, the aristocracy, the whole shit show. However, if a person were to use their democratic rights to campaign for this, they would be arrested. Conversely, the rabid monarchists are allowed to assault people who have different views than them... Words fail me.

Why would they be arrested (assuming they didn’t use violence to further their ends or start glueing themselves to the road)? Whether their movement would have any traction given both the number of people who have the opposing view and the probably greater number who can’t be arsed either way, is another matter.

I’m kind of hoping it will happen organically. Hard to imagine that Charles and Camilla are relishing their new roles at a time when most people are hoping to put their feet up and do their own thing, but when it’s been drummed into you for seventy years that it is your duty I don’t think it’s that easy to say “no, don’t fancy it”.

Anyway, enough of the discussion - I’ll let people get back to their ranting.

1994girl · 18/09/2022 09:10

I'm not, i couldn't really care less tbh.

LEnferCestLesAutres · 18/09/2022 09:11

The country is deeply divided and going down the shitter - but pomp and circumstance is something we are still good at.. which allows people to feel good about themselves and about the country….Most of those people in the Queue aren’t grieving in any normal sense - the ones I’ve seen are are loving it!