AIBU?
I don’t want to lower my childrens a pocket money to match their stepsisters
ormav · 15/09/2022 16:16
I have a daughter (15) and a son (12) with my ex. Originally when their mum and I started giving them pocket money we went with a formula of £3 multiplied by how old they were. Since their mum and I divorced 7 years ago I have been responsible for paying the kids their pocket money. I have kept to the original formula we agreed on. So now our daughter get £45 a week and her brother gets £36 a week.
Last year their mum got married. Her husband also has a daughter (14), so my kids have a stepsister now. Apparently she just found out how much our children are getting for their pocket money. She found out when my sons was talking about saving up for a new computer and she asked how he could afford it and how much money he got. He told her how much and how it was based on how old they were.
Now that she knows my ex and her husband say it’s caused a lot of trouble in their household leading to jealousy issues and fighting. This is because their stepsister only receives £10 a week. Both my ex and her husband said that I need to lower the kids allowance. They say that inequality like that between children in the same household can severely adversely affect their sibling relationship. I think that if there is inequality in their household that it is their responsibility to deal with it, not mine. I told them they should should raise the amount his daughter gets if it’s an issue.
They told me that they couldn’t afford to give her that much, but even if they could they wouldn’t because they don’t believe children their ages should have access to the amount of money they have. They say that continuing to give them this much pocket money will also make them spoiled, entitled and bad with money.
My ex later said she assumed I was giving them a normal amount even though I just stuck with the formula we did and agreed upon a long time ago. She says that I obviously should have stopped raising it when it reached normal amount (I’ll point out here that she never said what a normal amount it).
I have since looked up the regular range for pocket money and I’ll acknowledge that theirs is on the higher side. That’s said I do not believe it is adversely affecting them. They do not act spoiled or entitled. They never demand to have things and accept when things don’t go as planned. They do their chores without complaint and do well in school. They get along very well with others their own age with the exception of their stepsister because she calls them spoiled. I would also they are the opposite of bad with money as they both have saved up a significant amount in their accounts and aren’t just spending their money on pointless things as soon as they get it.
magma32 · 15/09/2022 16:27
completely agree you with. How much money a child gets is all relative. My kids don’t get any 😂 but I think your kids would resent you after they’ve been accustomed to this amount and suddenly have to reduce it. They sound like well brought up kids as they’re not spoilt so you don’t need to worry about ‘too much’ either. Think they’d also resent the other family as well for making you do it. Thing is even without having run it by your ex, it’s your choice what you give your kids, but the fact you already had a formula ok’d by your ex but now she’s backtracking means you’re definitely not in the wrong here. Stick to your guns unless you yourself want to lower it for your own reasons.
StrawberrySquash · 15/09/2022 16:28
What do they have to buy, vs what SS has to buy? They are at an age where you start to get into allowances for things like clothes or cinema trips, rather than parents stumping up each time. So it may not be as unequal as it seems if your two have to buy more with it.
TwinGirlsOnTheWay · 15/09/2022 16:28
EscapeRoomToTheSun · 15/09/2022 16:20
You're not setting them up well for life by giving them access to that much cash now. They will have no financial skills, no awareness of the cost of things.
£45 a week?😂😂😂😂 the jealousy stinks. OP, give them what you want. What happens in your house (as long as it is legal) is your business.
Madamecastafiore · 15/09/2022 16:28
I don't think it's insane if you can afford it and the children are sensible with it. If they are learning to use it to save up for something and not blowing it all on haribo or cheap nail polish then there isn't a problem.
What your ex's partner dies with his daughter and her finances is not your problem or your children's. They need to have the conversation with her that it's from their father. Dies she not get anything from her mother?
lickenchugget · 15/09/2022 16:29
StrawberrySquash · 15/09/2022 16:28
What do they have to buy, vs what SS has to buy? They are at an age where you start to get into allowances for things like clothes or cinema trips, rather than parents stumping up each time. So it may not be as unequal as it seems if your two have to buy more with it.
It doesn’t matter if it’s equal or not.
Rubiconmango · 15/09/2022 16:29
I do think that's a lot of pocket money to be honest. BUT that's not the point here. This has worked for you and your children, who might I add, sound like great children! I think the stepdad and the mother need to take this opportunity to educate the stepsister on how to manage her emotions, and explain the situation about how you're their father and how much you give them is between them and you etc NO WAY in hell should you lower the allowance in this context at all!!!
Not only is that insanely unfair on your children, it's showing all three kids that you're empowering bullying, and letting the child be the parent.
I would also explain to my kids how the third child feels is normal, and use it as a crucial educating opportunity, to teach them how to manage her jealousy without turning horrible themselves. Because boy is this scenario so common in the adult world of success both in families and the work place ;-)
You seem like a great dad. Protect your children. You've no obligation to the other child, and it's a shame your wife can't stand her ground with an arrangement that wasn't a problem until now.
TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 15/09/2022 16:33
EscapeRoomToTheSun · 15/09/2022 16:20
You're not setting them up well for life by giving them access to that much cash now. They will have no financial skills, no awareness of the cost of things.
@EscapeRoomToTheSun
Utter Rubbish. They already have savings & save for what they want (a computer).
@ormav Just keep repeating 'what your partner gives his daughter has NOTHING to do with me. I will give MY children the pocket money I DECIDE. not you, not him & if he can't afford to give them the same pocket money as OUR children, ask his EX for the money 🙄🙄
If 'they' are giving his daughter, how much are 'they' giving your kids?
what both their EX's do is completely irrelevant.
Tryingtokeepgoing · 15/09/2022 16:33
EscapeRoomToTheSun · 15/09/2022 16:20
You're not setting them up well for life by giving them access to that much cash now. They will have no financial skills, no awareness of the cost of things.
I’d have thought it’ll have the reverse effect. With a reasonable amount of money they’ll learn to save, budget, invest rather than have to beg parents for a tenner here and a fiver there for every little thing.
If the OP can afford it, and it helps develop skills and independence in the children then why not? I mean, it’s 36 years since I was £15, but even then I got £10. I then worked in a deli Saturdays (8 hours at £2.32 an hour!!) and got very good at saving, budgeting…and, to be fair, spending. Skills I have honed over the years, but particularly the spending one ;)
WTF475878237NC · 15/09/2022 16:34
I agree it's a lot of money and I personally give half of that, however
A) it sounds like you are teaching them the value of it because they are savers and choose how to spend it wisely
B) their step siblings' access to funds is not your own children's problem
Smartiepants79 · 15/09/2022 16:35
What you choose to give your own children is your business.
£45 a week is a lot of money though! £180 a month! Want do they spend that much on?? Is it to cover all clothes, toiletries, snacks, phone etc?? Or is just sweets and make up money?
I agree to cut back a bit (cost of living increases?) and put the rest into savings for them would be a good compromise.
GingerGloucester · 15/09/2022 16:35
I got £120 a month at around that age so I think it’s a reasonable amount given that I was a teen a fair few years ago.
I would keep giving what you give, maybe just ask the kids to not mention it around the step sibling but I think it’s unreasonable to expect you to reduce the amount. Particularly if you can afford it comfortably.
Goldencarp · 15/09/2022 16:36
I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. My kids 15 and 16 get a similar amount. The 16 year old works on Saturdays too and has worked the whole summer. They dint act spoilt and understand the fist of things. They are both brilliant with saving up for stuff.
if it’s causing a huge problem though maybe you could set them up a savings account and put the money there. Ultimately though what you give your kids is your business and nothing to do with your ex wife snd especially nothing to do with her husband. Clearly it’s his child causing the problem so may be she needs to be taught that Jelousy over what others have isn’t great either!
Tryingtokeepgoing · 15/09/2022 16:36
Smartiepants79 · 15/09/2022 16:35
What you choose to give your own children is your business.
£45 a week is a lot of money though! £180 a month! Want do they spend that much on?? Is it to cover all clothes, toiletries, snacks, phone etc?? Or is just sweets and make up money?
I agree to cut back a bit (cost of living increases?) and put the rest into savings for them would be a good compromise.
Surely its better to encourage or let them save from the money they’re given. Otherwise what’s the lesson? You need to empower them at some point…
Mammma91 · 15/09/2022 16:37
It is a lot of money for their age, but if you can afford it, why not? Could you maybe drop it to say £20 a week, and the remainder put into a savings pot for each of them when they reach an age your happy with? I.e - for their first car? I don’t really understand why your ex is making it your problem about the SD tbh.
nachoavocado · 15/09/2022 16:38
LadyHarmby · 15/09/2022 16:38
Could you give them less in cash and put the difference in a savings account for them (either the ones they have, or open new ones)? Might be a fair compromise.
Why should they. They can save it themselves. Good lesson to learn in life.
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