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To say no to this and leave it to DH to sort?

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Peeeko · 15/09/2022 15:19

Brief background. Me and DH don't share finances as I've never wanted to, I've always wanted access to my own money and we both earn well so never felt it necessary.

We have a joint account that pays for bills and we have a joint account that we save in but the rest goes in personal accounts and we don't question the other on what is spent on what.

We were trying for a child for a long time, I ended up with quite severe depression due to it, we also lost a baby along on the way and it was a really dark time but we eventually managed to have our own child who is now 1. My husband also has a son from a previous relationship who currently lives with us 50:50.

I always wanted to keep my career going but also wanted to spend some time at home. So I ended up dropping a day at work so that I could spend it with our son and just do things with him, spend time with him, get out and about before he starts being tied to school holidays. I do not rely on DH financially due to this and I am still able to provide my half of the bills so felt it was my decision and he was happy for me to do it too. After everything we went through it just seemed like the right thing for me to do.

My husband's ex has recently started a new job and has to work longer hours. Due to this she has asked if we can increase the time my DSC is at ours by one day/night so with us 4 and her 3. We live close by so logistically this wouldn't be a problem.

However, the day falls on my day off and I am now being asked to facilitate it by being available to take and pick up DSS from school, be around generally if he's off like holidays or sick etc..

I've said no and DH thinks I'm being unreasonable.

I took the drop in hours to spend time with our son, not to look after my step son so my husband's ex could further her career. I love my day with my son and don't want our time being tied to school hours, having to back from wherever if we choose to go out or having to look after DSS too during the school holidays. I know it's just one day but it's important to me.

DH tends to work from home on the days we usually have DSS during the week so nips out to do the school pick ups and drop offs himself but he is required to be in the office the other days so can't do it on this day. I've suggested before and after school club but DSS was upset at the idea as he doesn't like going and DH thinks I'd be mean to make him go when I'm potentially at home or at least off work anyway.

So who's being unreasonable? In my mind this is a problem for DH and his ex to sort and I'm pretty adamant right now that I'm not getting involved.

OP posts:
MsRosley · 16/09/2022 14:01

God, the sanctimony from the cool second wives club is off the scale here. Ignore them, OP!

HeddaGarbeld · 16/09/2022 14:32

MsRosley · 16/09/2022 14:01

God, the sanctimony from the cool second wives club is off the scale here. Ignore them, OP!

OK, I'll bite -

Who's the cool second wives club and where's the off the scale sanctimony?

Easy to make sweeping statements that aren't true. I'd ignore anyone who does that OP.

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/09/2022 14:32

She asked. You said no as busy / don’t want tj be tied to school times

so the ex gets childcare for that day

what does she do the other days she is at work @Peeeko

or do they fall on your 3 now 4 days

but you work so does dh always take /pick up his ds

or he Goes to childcare

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 14:38

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 16/09/2022 08:47

Why is this a bad thing?
Yes OP loves her son more. Yes he will be prioritised over step son.

While one cannot help their feelings, the role of any parent is still to treat all their children (bio and step) fairly, and not exhibit blatant favouritism. The OP is imho exhibiting favouritism of putting her bio child above her step child, which one study I’ve already posted warns causes enduring relationship issues in stepfamilies. But here are a few more blurbs written by social and clinical psychologists explaining why favouritism is bad and unfair in the step/bio child context.

“A large proportion of parents consistently favor one child over another. This favoritism can manifest in different ways: more time spent with one child, more affection given, more privileges, less discipline, or less abuse. Research by sociologist Jill Suitor examines some of the causes and consequences of parental favoritism, which occurs in one- to two-thirds of American families.”

“Other reasons for parental favoritism most of us would judge as unfair, yet they don't surprise us much. Parents might spend more time with and feel closer to same-gender children than to opposite-gender children. In mixed families, parents favor their biological children over step-children. In patriarchal cultures, parents simply favor boys over girls.”

”Unfortunately, the consequences of parental favoritism are what you might expect — they're mostly bad. Disfavored children experience worse outcomes across the board: more depression, greater aggressiveness, lower self-esteem, and poorer academic performance. These repercussions are far more extreme than any benefits the favored children get out of it (negative things just have a stronger impact on people than positive things). And it's not all rosy for the favored children either — their siblings often come to resent them, poisoning those relationships.

Many of these consequences persist long after children have grown up and moved out of the house. People don't soon forget that they were disfavored by their parents, and many people report that being disfavored as a child continues to affect their self-esteem and their relationships in adulthood.

To make matters worse, parents are even more likely to play favorites once their children are grown up, sustaining the toxic family dynamics (e.g., bad feelings, sibling resentment).”

^www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200901/when-parents-play-favorites^

“Children instinctively depend on their parents for love, care and support. Kids get motivated when parents encourage them and get demotivated when they fail to do so. Many a times, parents give undue attention to the younger child while not giving enough attention to the older ones. In mixed families, parents favour their biological children over the step-children while in patriarchal societies, parents display extreme affection for the male child.

Parental favouritism of one child over the other affects their emotional well-being. It is very likely that in their growing years, a neglected child could lose self-esteem, become depressed and also lose faith in themselves. This in turn affects their studies and intellectual growth.

So parents need to be extremely cautious and treat all the siblings equally. So let’s look at some ill-effects of parental favouritism.”

“Usually, children who are petted a lot, become spoilt brats. They can display unnecessary tantrums, demand a lot of gifts, and also display adamant behavior right from their childhood. Favoured children may feel a sense of superiority and tend to believe that they can break rules. This can adversely affect their ability to sustain relationships, along with their behavior at school, work life, and even friendships.”

“As a parent, you may be inadvertently fostering rivalry between your children by displaying favouritism. The child, who is shown less favouritism, is likely to instigate rivalry with his sibling. In the growing up years, a jealous child could even try to harm or cause an injury to his/her sibling. Parents need to understand that all children need equal attention and love while dealing with their children.”

“Displaying partiality towards a child can cause unrequited stress on the other child. The feeling or perception of being the less favourite can hurt the self-esteem of a child. For instance, labeling one of your children as smart or intelligent may lead to unnecessary and unhealthy competition among the kids, where one would continuously try to put the other down. In adulthood, the less favoured child may still lack self-esteem and hence may not be able to perform well in their work lives.”

“People usually don’t forget that they were not treated fairly by their parents. The neglected children may develop hatred towards the parent who displayed favouritism. Also, such children are more likely to exhibit aggression and inappropriate behavior in their schools and with siblings. The lack of parental affirmation and affection may leave a void in their lives which can never be filled. Children can also exhibit signs of depression very early in life.”

“As a parent, when you favour a child for being talented, this automatically makes the less favoured child suppress his/her talents. Due to lack of encouragement and support, they start doubting their abilities, suppress their talents and fail to achieve their true potential. According to psychologists, an emotionally healthy child will want to display his or her talents and will also learn faster. Always promote your kids to display their talents and do not praise or encourage only one child. Encourage all the kids to perform to the best of their abilities.”

“At social events and gatherings, children are expected to display a certain demeanor. They are expected to wish and greet the elders and also to respond to conversations. The unfavoured child may shy away and may not respond very well. As these kids grow up they tend to lack social skills due to lack of self-confidence. According to experts, unfavoured children may carry the belief that they are not good enough throughout their lives.”

^www.educationworld.in/parental-favouritism-harmful-effects-on-children/^

“When favoritism morphs into abuse, the health of the family and the psychological well being of all its members is jeopardized:

Favorite children grow up with distorted, inflated views of themselves. They are vulnerable to feeling entitled and believing that rules don't apply to them. They are likely to struggle with intimate relationships. Additionally, they are likely to grow up alienated from their siblings.
Unfavored children grow up with distorted, negative views of themselves. They are vulnerable to feeling defeated, believing that hard work and determination will not reap the rewards they desire. Depression often accompanies this experience.
Spouses observing their mates inappropriate attachment to one child are likely to be uneasy: either they are jealous of their child's relationship with their spouse or they are relieved that the favorite child is filling a void in their spouse's life that they don't want to address.
Parents who exclusively indulge one child are likely looking to these children to fill voids that these parents sense inside themselves. The mental health of these parents as well as their parenting skills are at risk.
It is probable that these dynamics will be reenacted in the subsequent generations of this family tree.”

^www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-favorite-child/201104/when-favoritism-becomes-abuse^

ReneBumsWombats · 16/09/2022 14:41

The OP is imho exhibiting favouritism of putting her bio child above her step child

She wouldn't even be facing the possibility if the child's two parents had done their job and arranged childcare for him when changing their work plans. Are they putting the cost of wraparound care above the needs of their bio child?

beachcitygirl · 16/09/2022 14:44

@Discovereads im sorry about your childhood
BUT none of your studies etc has any bearing here.
The step child is 7 will know nothing about the organisation of childcare (or shouldnt & if his parents are telling him thats horrific & firmly on the parent who does so. )

This sm is simply not prepared to carry out the unpaid childcare of the childs two parents whilst they progress their career.

She is more than happy for dss to be with them more than 50/50 and there is zero evidence that she is anything other than a loving step parent in the home.

she's just not prepared to lose 20% of her salary to have her day dictated by school hours timetabing

She happens to want some one on one bonding time with her baby.
The dss got the same with his mum (more) when he was a baby.

So stop with your woe is the child articles.

Its a nonsense in this situation

whumpthereitis · 16/09/2022 14:51

The study also seems to be in regards to favoritism within the nuclear family. A blended family is obviously not a nuclear family, and doesn’t function the same. The stepparent does not necessarily have a parental relationship with the stepchild, and it’s a bold assumption that a child would welcome seeing a stepmother or stepfather as a parent equal to their biological ones.

ReneBumsWombats · 16/09/2022 14:53

Why would a stepmother be expected to prioritise her stepchild more than the bio parents prioritise him?

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 14:55

ReneBumsWombats · 16/09/2022 14:41

The OP is imho exhibiting favouritism of putting her bio child above her step child

She wouldn't even be facing the possibility if the child's two parents had done their job and arranged childcare for him when changing their work plans. Are they putting the cost of wraparound care above the needs of their bio child?

It’s easy to sit in your armchair and say “just get childcare” but there’s a crisis in both availability and affordability of childcare right now.

“While sky-high childcare costs have always been a cause for stress and anxiety, Covid sparked an exodus of childcare professionals, making the industry harder to run, while the the cost of living crisis has only added fuel to this raging fire.
Thousands of early years childminders have left the sector since the first lockdown in 2020, while those who stayed are struggling to get by on low wages. Coronavirus also caused a fall in the number of childcare settings, from 75,000 registered providers to under 70,000, according to the Government.”
metro.co.uk/2022/07/16/exhausted-overworked-and-still-broke-the-uks-childcare-crisis-17000000/

“Nurseries across the UK are being forced to close or reduce their services at an alarming rate because they are struggling to recruit and retain staff, the National Day Nurseries Association (NDNA) has warned. The crisis is only set to deepen as more childcare providers go out of business, increasing demand for places and pushing prices even higher for families struggling with the rising cost of living. Purnima Tanuku, the chief executive of the NDNA, said: “Until recently, government underfunding was the main reason nurseries were going out of business, but now we are seeing more nurseries unable to open because they can’t employ sufficient staff,” she said. “Every closure is devastating to local communities, parents and children. They must not lose out because the government has failed to invest in our early years workforce.”
www.theguardian.com/education/2022/apr/30/uk-faces-childcare-crisis-as-staff-shortages-force-nurseries-to-close

“The crisis in the UK childcare sector has been laid bare by two major surveys, with campaigners saying young families and struggling providers are being ignored by ministers as the cost of living crisis spirals. Both surveys suggest childcare fees are increasing to an unmanageable level, with two-thirds of 27,000 parents reporting rising childcare costs in the past six months, and a similar percentage of providers confirming increases. Two-thirds of respondents to the survey published by the campaign groups Pregnant Then Screwed and Mumsnet, said they were paying as much or more for their childcare than for their rent or mortgage. Almost half (43%) of working mothers were considering leaving their jobs and 40% were working fewer hours than they wanted to because childcare fees were unaffordable…..Justine Roberts, CEO of Mumsnet, said the survey was further proof that childcare in the UK was broken. “For many families, childcare is either expensive to the point of being unusable or unavailable at the times they need,” she said.”
www.theguardian.com/money/2022/mar/25/childcare-costs-spiralled-uk-families-survey

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 16/09/2022 14:55

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 14:38

While one cannot help their feelings, the role of any parent is still to treat all their children (bio and step) fairly, and not exhibit blatant favouritism. The OP is imho exhibiting favouritism of putting her bio child above her step child, which one study I’ve already posted warns causes enduring relationship issues in stepfamilies. But here are a few more blurbs written by social and clinical psychologists explaining why favouritism is bad and unfair in the step/bio child context.

“A large proportion of parents consistently favor one child over another. This favoritism can manifest in different ways: more time spent with one child, more affection given, more privileges, less discipline, or less abuse. Research by sociologist Jill Suitor examines some of the causes and consequences of parental favoritism, which occurs in one- to two-thirds of American families.”

“Other reasons for parental favoritism most of us would judge as unfair, yet they don't surprise us much. Parents might spend more time with and feel closer to same-gender children than to opposite-gender children. In mixed families, parents favor their biological children over step-children. In patriarchal cultures, parents simply favor boys over girls.”

”Unfortunately, the consequences of parental favoritism are what you might expect — they're mostly bad. Disfavored children experience worse outcomes across the board: more depression, greater aggressiveness, lower self-esteem, and poorer academic performance. These repercussions are far more extreme than any benefits the favored children get out of it (negative things just have a stronger impact on people than positive things). And it's not all rosy for the favored children either — their siblings often come to resent them, poisoning those relationships.

Many of these consequences persist long after children have grown up and moved out of the house. People don't soon forget that they were disfavored by their parents, and many people report that being disfavored as a child continues to affect their self-esteem and their relationships in adulthood.

To make matters worse, parents are even more likely to play favorites once their children are grown up, sustaining the toxic family dynamics (e.g., bad feelings, sibling resentment).”

^www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200901/when-parents-play-favorites^

“Children instinctively depend on their parents for love, care and support. Kids get motivated when parents encourage them and get demotivated when they fail to do so. Many a times, parents give undue attention to the younger child while not giving enough attention to the older ones. In mixed families, parents favour their biological children over the step-children while in patriarchal societies, parents display extreme affection for the male child.

Parental favouritism of one child over the other affects their emotional well-being. It is very likely that in their growing years, a neglected child could lose self-esteem, become depressed and also lose faith in themselves. This in turn affects their studies and intellectual growth.

So parents need to be extremely cautious and treat all the siblings equally. So let’s look at some ill-effects of parental favouritism.”

“Usually, children who are petted a lot, become spoilt brats. They can display unnecessary tantrums, demand a lot of gifts, and also display adamant behavior right from their childhood. Favoured children may feel a sense of superiority and tend to believe that they can break rules. This can adversely affect their ability to sustain relationships, along with their behavior at school, work life, and even friendships.”

“As a parent, you may be inadvertently fostering rivalry between your children by displaying favouritism. The child, who is shown less favouritism, is likely to instigate rivalry with his sibling. In the growing up years, a jealous child could even try to harm or cause an injury to his/her sibling. Parents need to understand that all children need equal attention and love while dealing with their children.”

“Displaying partiality towards a child can cause unrequited stress on the other child. The feeling or perception of being the less favourite can hurt the self-esteem of a child. For instance, labeling one of your children as smart or intelligent may lead to unnecessary and unhealthy competition among the kids, where one would continuously try to put the other down. In adulthood, the less favoured child may still lack self-esteem and hence may not be able to perform well in their work lives.”

“People usually don’t forget that they were not treated fairly by their parents. The neglected children may develop hatred towards the parent who displayed favouritism. Also, such children are more likely to exhibit aggression and inappropriate behavior in their schools and with siblings. The lack of parental affirmation and affection may leave a void in their lives which can never be filled. Children can also exhibit signs of depression very early in life.”

“As a parent, when you favour a child for being talented, this automatically makes the less favoured child suppress his/her talents. Due to lack of encouragement and support, they start doubting their abilities, suppress their talents and fail to achieve their true potential. According to psychologists, an emotionally healthy child will want to display his or her talents and will also learn faster. Always promote your kids to display their talents and do not praise or encourage only one child. Encourage all the kids to perform to the best of their abilities.”

“At social events and gatherings, children are expected to display a certain demeanor. They are expected to wish and greet the elders and also to respond to conversations. The unfavoured child may shy away and may not respond very well. As these kids grow up they tend to lack social skills due to lack of self-confidence. According to experts, unfavoured children may carry the belief that they are not good enough throughout their lives.”

^www.educationworld.in/parental-favouritism-harmful-effects-on-children/^

“When favoritism morphs into abuse, the health of the family and the psychological well being of all its members is jeopardized:

Favorite children grow up with distorted, inflated views of themselves. They are vulnerable to feeling entitled and believing that rules don't apply to them. They are likely to struggle with intimate relationships. Additionally, they are likely to grow up alienated from their siblings.
Unfavored children grow up with distorted, negative views of themselves. They are vulnerable to feeling defeated, believing that hard work and determination will not reap the rewards they desire. Depression often accompanies this experience.
Spouses observing their mates inappropriate attachment to one child are likely to be uneasy: either they are jealous of their child's relationship with their spouse or they are relieved that the favorite child is filling a void in their spouse's life that they don't want to address.
Parents who exclusively indulge one child are likely looking to these children to fill voids that these parents sense inside themselves. The mental health of these parents as well as their parenting skills are at risk.
It is probable that these dynamics will be reenacted in the subsequent generations of this family tree.”

^www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-favorite-child/201104/when-favoritism-becomes-abuse^

OK. Not reading that.

She can show favouritism because she isn't some hired help.
She wants to be with her son. His parents can sort him out.

She isn't his mum.
So all that psychology and whatever else you nattered on about is not her problem.

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 14:59

@beachcitygirl
BUT none of your studies etc has any bearing here.
They do, they all stated up from the discussion on favouritism applied to blended families with bio/step children in the mix.

@whumpthereitis
The study also seems to be in regards to favoritism within the nuclear family.
No the studies and articles stated that they included blended families and considered bio/step children as family children.

I was careful to ensure these were not limited to a family with only bio children.

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 15:00

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Martinisarebetterdirty · 16/09/2022 15:01

OP has said childcare is available, there is wrap around care at school and DH is a high earner and can afford it. So the childcare crisis is moot here.

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 15:02

ReneBumsWombats · 16/09/2022 14:53

Why would a stepmother be expected to prioritise her stepchild more than the bio parents prioritise him?

She wouldn’t. That’s not what treating all children fairly and without favouritism means.

whumpthereitis · 16/09/2022 15:04

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 14:59

@beachcitygirl
BUT none of your studies etc has any bearing here.
They do, they all stated up from the discussion on favouritism applied to blended families with bio/step children in the mix.

@whumpthereitis
The study also seems to be in regards to favoritism within the nuclear family.
No the studies and articles stated that they included blended families and considered bio/step children as family children.

I was careful to ensure these were not limited to a family with only bio children.

Fair enough. I did click on the link but it wouldn’t load for me.

Having a parental relationship with the child you’re a parent to, and not with a stepchild, is different to favoritism.

Bovrilly · 16/09/2022 15:05

It’s easy to sit in your armchair and say “just get childcare” but there’s a crisis in both availability and affordability of childcare right now.

Not sure why you have bothered with all this. There is no suggestion that childcare is an issue, in fact the OP's DH said she would be mean to make the DSS go to childcare when he doesn't want to, which does imply it's a possibility. The availability of childcare is nothing to do with it. The DH expects OP to look after his son because he doesn't want to do it himself and his son's and ex-wife's feelings and needs are seemingly more important than those of OP and the little one.

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 16/09/2022 15:10

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JFC you really belive you're some super smart phycolgist. You've just said more about you here than me

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 15:15

Martinisarebetterdirty · 16/09/2022 15:01

OP has said childcare is available, there is wrap around care at school and DH is a high earner and can afford it. So the childcare crisis is moot here.

The way I read that it was suggested the child go to after school care, but the child was upset at the possibility. There wasn’t any mention of whether the after school care had been contacted with pricing and availability confirmed. So it may not be moot.

But it raises the question, of what is in the best interest of the child? The OP said the child was upset at the suggestion because he likes it at his Dads home and doesn’t understand why he can’t just come home after school (post 3pm) since his step mum is off that whole day. So, a decision to send him to after school care is going to make him feel excluded and unwanted in his primary home (he’s going to be there 4 days out of 7). And he knows it’s because his step mum doesn’t want him in the same house as her and his half brother because he’s “not her kid, not her problem”. That the step mum and half brother’s special day together of all school day still isn’t long enough, that she can’t compromise and allow him to join them even for a few hours in the late afternoon until dinner time.

That’s where the favouritism angle needs to be considered. This child will literally be sitting in after school from 3-6pm thinking “I can’t go home because my step mum doesn’t want me there until my dad gets home from work.”

It’s not good parenting imho.

funinthesun19 · 16/09/2022 15:16

A lot of posters are quick to blame the mother here. The OP said herself the mum asked the dad, and didn’t specifically ask for the OP to do it.

Even if she hasn’t specifically asked the OP, she’s still having an influence on OP’s life. Her husband should be signing DSS up to a club instead of pressuring OP.

I think the spit dummy out comments like “What would you do if he was your own?” are really unnecessary. If DSS was her own, she would be arranging her life accordingly as a mum of 2 and nothing more would be thought about it.
By choosing not to jump up to help when the mum makes big decisions, it doesn’t mean she should have to think about what she would do if DSS was her own. The two situations are very different and not comparable.

beachcitygirl · 16/09/2022 15:20

@Discovereads i say this kindly, but i think you need to step away & maybe get some counselling.

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 16/09/2022 15:30

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 15:15

The way I read that it was suggested the child go to after school care, but the child was upset at the possibility. There wasn’t any mention of whether the after school care had been contacted with pricing and availability confirmed. So it may not be moot.

But it raises the question, of what is in the best interest of the child? The OP said the child was upset at the suggestion because he likes it at his Dads home and doesn’t understand why he can’t just come home after school (post 3pm) since his step mum is off that whole day. So, a decision to send him to after school care is going to make him feel excluded and unwanted in his primary home (he’s going to be there 4 days out of 7). And he knows it’s because his step mum doesn’t want him in the same house as her and his half brother because he’s “not her kid, not her problem”. That the step mum and half brother’s special day together of all school day still isn’t long enough, that she can’t compromise and allow him to join them even for a few hours in the late afternoon until dinner time.

That’s where the favouritism angle needs to be considered. This child will literally be sitting in after school from 3-6pm thinking “I can’t go home because my step mum doesn’t want me there until my dad gets home from work.”

It’s not good parenting imho.

No. Not every action needs to be in this child's best interest.
OPs day with her son is In their best interests and for the OP that is most important.

The child not liking after school club is tough.
But he needs to get over it. As a child he is not entitled to the details

Mum and Dad are working and OP is busy. End of

Bovrilly · 16/09/2022 15:32

And he knows it’s because his step mum doesn’t want him in the same house as her and his half brother

He doesn't know that because it's not true - he's there 50/50 already and the OP is fine with that, and also fine with them taking over the majority of his care. You seem a bit lost in this argument now, with the quoting irrelevant studies and making up things that aren't true. PP's advice to go and do something else is good I think.

"I can’t go home because my step mum doesn’t want me there until my dad gets home from work.”

Absolutely mad. Maybe he will think "I can't go home because my mum is working when she should be looking after me", or "I can't go home because my dad said he would look after me an extra day but he hasn't changed his work to let that happen", or maybe even "I can't go home because mum and dad are both at work and my step mum is out with the baby".

whumpthereitis · 16/09/2022 15:33

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 16/09/2022 15:10

JFC you really belive you're some super smart phycolgist. You've just said more about you here than me

You’d never know it actually takes quite a lot of time and investigation to diagnose NPD, or that it’s a fairly rare condition, if you judged it by mumsnet 💀

Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 16/09/2022 15:34

whumpthereitis · 16/09/2022 15:33

You’d never know it actually takes quite a lot of time and investigation to diagnose NPD, or that it’s a fairly rare condition, if you judged it by mumsnet 💀

I don't believe it! How can that be true when every bitchy MIL, Horrid Ex and a person who disagrees with this poster has it!

whumpthereitis · 16/09/2022 15:37

Discovereads · 16/09/2022 15:15

The way I read that it was suggested the child go to after school care, but the child was upset at the possibility. There wasn’t any mention of whether the after school care had been contacted with pricing and availability confirmed. So it may not be moot.

But it raises the question, of what is in the best interest of the child? The OP said the child was upset at the suggestion because he likes it at his Dads home and doesn’t understand why he can’t just come home after school (post 3pm) since his step mum is off that whole day. So, a decision to send him to after school care is going to make him feel excluded and unwanted in his primary home (he’s going to be there 4 days out of 7). And he knows it’s because his step mum doesn’t want him in the same house as her and his half brother because he’s “not her kid, not her problem”. That the step mum and half brother’s special day together of all school day still isn’t long enough, that she can’t compromise and allow him to join them even for a few hours in the late afternoon until dinner time.

That’s where the favouritism angle needs to be considered. This child will literally be sitting in after school from 3-6pm thinking “I can’t go home because my step mum doesn’t want me there until my dad gets home from work.”

It’s not good parenting imho.

The best interests of what child though? Presumably not the one that’s expected to forego his one-on-one days with his mother.

Op’s interests also matter. Children do not always come first, not for parents, and particularly not for people who aren’t one of their two parents.

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