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Why do so many more adult men than adult women still live with their parents?

161 replies

Tsort · 13/09/2022 22:42

Obviously, COVID and CoL have had a severe impact on young people’s ability to leave home, regardless of gender. However, the percentage of young men at home is so much higher. These are the percentages for 2021 (according to Statista), as you’ll see, the difference starts to get quite striking in the mid-20’s.

Age Male Female
34 11% 3%
33 11%. 2%
32 13% 5%
31 14% 6%
30 15% 6%
29 19% 9%
28 25% 12%
27 30% 13%
26 36% 21%
25 43% 25%
24 56% 40%
23 56% 50%
22 65% 54%
21 67% 50%
20 64% 57%
19 81% 76%
18 92% 89%

So, what gives, do you think? Is it the old trope of useless man children who can’t cope on their own? Is it that women more likely to want their independence? Something else?

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Tierne · 15/09/2022 01:59

Looks like there are a lot of prickly mums of sons on here 😂

As any woman who has a brother knows, its because you're told to get your shit together while the boys are mummied into old age.

All these helpful young men living at home probably do wipe down surfaces and put the laundry on but deep down we know the mums are still doing the hard work, and if it were girls at home they'd have to be scrubbing the toilets and planning the shops to be considered as "helpful".

This is why Relationships is full of men who have bought a nice house but expect the OP to do all the heavy lifting. Too much praise from their mums for doing the bare minimum

Ihaveroyallyscrewedup · 15/09/2022 02:20

I would be interested to know the percentage of males that live with their Mother only, in my experience sons find it harder to live with fathers in to adulthood and daughters find it harder to live with mothers, as children are more likely to stay with their mothers after a separation it makes sense.
Also in my experience women are more likely to be happy alone than men, I find even the fully functioning adult men get lonely very easily.

KimberleyClark · 15/09/2022 06:35

My DH left home as soon as he could. Went to Uni at the other end of the country and got a job there as well. He knew he’d never be able to have a life of his own if he stayed local to his parents.

ParsleySageRosemary · 15/09/2022 06:43

I mean, unless he is a pornstar, what relevance does having a penis have to earning money? We should all be teaching our daughters that money you earn for yourself, relationships are for emotional fulfilment, and that the former should never be dependent on the latter. It's horrific that this is still even an issue for so many people. What were their parents thinking??

Childbirth is highly relevant to women’s ongoing ability to earn. The motherhood penalty is very well known.

Perhaps that, combined with the related sexism, is another reason - women are increasingly told, or know, that they have to get their shit together young, because women are considered to have a sell-by date. Men can afford to have a slow build up. No one starts telling them that they’re too old to work in some sectors by 30.

KimberleyClark · 15/09/2022 06:51

Childbirth is highly relevant to women’s ongoing ability to earn. The motherhood penalty is very well known.

Having children should be an informed choice. Girls should not be being told they WILL want to have children and they WILL regret it if they don’t. They should be being told it is equally valid not to have them and that motherhood isn’t the be all and end all.

FrippEnos · 15/09/2022 07:10

Younger age group more women are going to university then men.
Moving up the ages
Single mothers, failed relationships were the woman keeps the house, Or rented property and its easier to get a property than for a male.
Up further
Divorces where the woman keeps the home.
Throw into the mix SEN, MH, carers etc. and you get your numbers.
But as with everything else numbers are pointless without details so they can be understood correctly.

Justkidding55 · 15/09/2022 07:27

Women often have the kids so they get helped out by the state to get housing. There is next to no support for single males.

EBearhug · 15/09/2022 07:42

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EBearhug · 15/09/2022 07:44

Sorry, wrong thread.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 15/09/2022 08:48

KimberleyClark · 15/09/2022 06:51

Childbirth is highly relevant to women’s ongoing ability to earn. The motherhood penalty is very well known.

Having children should be an informed choice. Girls should not be being told they WILL want to have children and they WILL regret it if they don’t. They should be being told it is equally valid not to have them and that motherhood isn’t the be all and end all.

While this is true. It won't stop employers penalising women of childbearing age whatever the individual woman's desire may be.
The assumption is always that she will want children, however untrue.

Tsort · 15/09/2022 09:14

Ihaveroyallyscrewedup · 15/09/2022 02:20

I would be interested to know the percentage of males that live with their Mother only, in my experience sons find it harder to live with fathers in to adulthood and daughters find it harder to live with mothers, as children are more likely to stay with their mothers after a separation it makes sense.
Also in my experience women are more likely to be happy alone than men, I find even the fully functioning adult men get lonely very easily.

As only 14.9% of households are single parent families and the percentage of young men at home fat outstrips that until they hit about 30, the majority of them will be living with both parents (or one parent and said parent’s partner, I suppose).

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Getoff · 15/09/2022 09:30

TheSpringyGuyAndTheCheeseEater · 15/09/2022 00:02

Ok, so what's your premise? That men are 3 years more immature than women?

And then what of the older ones where there is still a discrepancy?

No, my premise is that young woman have the option to be partially supported by an older man, instead of their parents, and young men don't. Young men are just as keen as young women to be shacked up with a partner, probably a lot more keen, but it's more difficult for them, because women of their own age have been scooped up by older men.

I don't think anyone thinks that the age-gap in heterosexual relationships has anything to do with maturity? The most common explanations are to do with sex and money.

As my explanation doesn't work for the older ones, I guess some other reason is taking over as the dominant factor, at that age. It's enough for me to have explained the discrepancy in most of the age range.

Getoff · 15/09/2022 09:43

Despite that, the gender pay gap excludes a large number of women from home ownership

In the age range we are talking about, there is no gender pay gap

www.statista.com/statistics/801932/gender-pay-gap-uk-by-age/

Mybestyear · 15/09/2022 09:52

Sorry am on the bus and haven’t RTFT. It strikes me that more younger women leave the home asap to escape abuse - from male relatives, mum’s ‘new’ partner etc. I know several women who literally had to flee as soon as they could (age 15/16) owing to abuse and I too left home at 16 (more than 40 years ago mind) to escape an abusive uncle who was protected within the family. Also common in teenage runaways I believe. Sadly many of these girls/women go on to have abusive partners.

Tsort · 15/09/2022 09:59

Getoff · 15/09/2022 09:43

Despite that, the gender pay gap excludes a large number of women from home ownership

In the age range we are talking about, there is no gender pay gap

www.statista.com/statistics/801932/gender-pay-gap-uk-by-age/

1-3% is not ‘no gender pay gap’. It’s lower than for older people, but it exists and it has an impact.

I'm still very entertained by how you go from not caring enough to look things up to compiling spreadsheets and hitting statista. 😂

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Tsort · 15/09/2022 09:59

Mybestyear · 15/09/2022 09:52

Sorry am on the bus and haven’t RTFT. It strikes me that more younger women leave the home asap to escape abuse - from male relatives, mum’s ‘new’ partner etc. I know several women who literally had to flee as soon as they could (age 15/16) owing to abuse and I too left home at 16 (more than 40 years ago mind) to escape an abusive uncle who was protected within the family. Also common in teenage runaways I believe. Sadly many of these girls/women go on to have abusive partners.

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

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sweeneytoddsrazor · 15/09/2022 10:08

Older men likely divorce separation.
Younger men, possibly more of them, likely to do an apprenticeship type training or hands on career like plumbing than a woman is. This would usually be local. Do more females go to uni than males?

OhamIreally · 15/09/2022 12:04

I can't believe people are positing the theory that men are not leaving home due to feelings of guilt or to become caregivers whilst their sisters skip off with nary a backward glance!

And are aghast at the suggestion that men might be having a more cushy ride at home than their sisters!

I'm getting some kind of cognitive dissonance just reading this thread.

ohdelay · 15/09/2022 12:07

LHReturns · 13/09/2022 22:54

Because their mummies love doing their laundry for their little Princes.

This made me laugh as so true. I couldn't wait to leave home but my brothers loved it. Our experiences with our mother were very very different.

FrippEnos · 15/09/2022 17:03

Tsort · 15/09/2022 09:59

1-3% is not ‘no gender pay gap’. It’s lower than for older people, but it exists and it has an impact.

I'm still very entertained by how you go from not caring enough to look things up to compiling spreadsheets and hitting statista. 😂

from the last figures I saw women earnt on average £1000 _ more until mid 30s.

Tsort · 15/09/2022 17:10

FrippEnos · 15/09/2022 17:03

from the last figures I saw women earnt on average £1000 _ more until mid 30s.

The comment to which you responded contains a link with the stats. And, no, women do not.

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OakTreex · 16/09/2022 01:20

Because men are dependent on women. Their mothers, and then their girlfriends and wives. It's never been the other way round. It's a trope. We've never needed them and never will tbh.

"Dick is abundant and of low value".

Sorry not sorry Grin

FrippEnos · 16/09/2022 18:11

Tsort · 15/09/2022 17:10

The comment to which you responded contains a link with the stats. And, no, women do not.

Posters can google if they want to look without a closed mind.

SofiaSoFar · 17/09/2022 07:06

OakTreex · 16/09/2022 01:20

Because men are dependent on women. Their mothers, and then their girlfriends and wives. It's never been the other way round. It's a trope. We've never needed them and never will tbh.

"Dick is abundant and of low value".

Sorry not sorry Grin

Given the propensity for women making themselves entirely dependent on men, that's a curious way of looking at it.

Tsort · 17/09/2022 12:08

FrippEnos · 16/09/2022 18:11

Posters can google if they want to look without a closed mind.

The Statista and ONS data is for people with ‘closed minds’ while your data, from undisclosed sources, is for free thinkers?

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