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To think publishing the video of King Charles getting annoyed when signing a visitors book today is very unkind?

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PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 13/09/2022 20:51

He has lost both parents in a short time frame, had a disagreement with his own son and taken on a very stressful job at the height of grief. AIBU to think this should not have been made public? Most people would lose their temper at a time like that in their own lives. Why publish this?

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TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 13/09/2022 21:52

SecondsAreTheBest · 13/09/2022 21:32

He doesn't have to be on the move though. I assume he could grieve somewhere quieter...or even abdicate. He is on the move because he wants to be seen and to let people know he is their new king.

Oh, how absolutely dreadful of him to want to give the country some stability.

GoodVibesHere · 13/09/2022 21:53

He'd be fuming if he came to my house, we have drawers full of biro's but none of them ever work . Every time I grab a biro to write a quick note the buggers have all dried up.

OriginalUsername3 · 13/09/2022 21:54

WeepingSomnambulist · 13/09/2022 21:14

There are loads of videos of charles making nasty comments and being short tempered. It's who he is. He is a spoilt boy who surrounded himself with yes men from young age. He just doesn't have the grace he should for this role. We might as well get used to it. It has nothing to do with his grief.

This.
Although rather than get used to it, I'd like to get rid.

LadyIckenham · 13/09/2022 21:56

Snoozer11 · 13/09/2022 21:27

He hasn't stopped for almost a week, he's approaching his mid-70s, he's just lost his mother, he's being filmed almost every waking hour, it's a hugely emotional time of great pressure and now he's gone and gotten ink everywhere.

I think it says more about the people criticising him than it does about him.

I quite agree.

Apart from anything else, he must be exhausted. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be judged on my behaviour when sleep deprived with young DC, let alone when grieving.

I think the amount he has had to do in the past week is quite heartless, I get that historically the accession had to be publicised but can't imagine there'd be any other claims on the throne in current times. Much better that the RF should be allowed to withdraw during the period of mourning
And undertake all the procedural stuff after the funeral.

Not least because we're all going to be exhausted by it all come Monday at this rate!

Snoozer11 · 13/09/2022 21:56

DarkDarkNight · 13/09/2022 21:51

It’s just who he is isn’t it? I don’t think it’s to do with grief, just a man who is used to everyone smoothing his way wherever he goes. He is petulant and lacks the sense to hide it.

The redundancy notice is beyond belief. Whoever thought that was appropriate should be the one losing their job! Terrible optics. I get that it is necessary, but it could have waited until after the funeral. I think it’s something the media would have jumped on eventually in terms of the Royals wasting money if staffing changes weren’t made, but the timing is truly appalling. We are still in the official mourning period, it is really disrespectful.

I disagree about the redundancy notices.

They will have known their jobs would end once the Queen died. They've known since Thursday that they're effectively unemployed, so why drag it out?

The mourning period is a time of transition. This is the right time to do it.

antelopevalley · 13/09/2022 21:57

user1471457751 · 13/09/2022 21:23

The redundancy would have been known to all staff way before the Queen's passing, it won't be a shock to them. And really, I can only imagine what some people would have to say about wasting money if the staff were kept on any longer than they need to be. Clarence House could never win this one.

The press say quite clearly that staff were not expecting redundancies and it was a shock.

Hugasauras · 13/09/2022 21:57

I think it just makes him human 🤷‍♀️ He has had a rough few days, he was annoyed, he wasn't unpleasant or rude to anyone, he just expressed his frustration with an inanimate object. I'm sure we all do it! I am forever telling off household items for their behaviour Grin He's still a person, he hasn't become a robot and I think that's quite nice tbh. He doesn't have to be the same as his mother.

daisychain01 · 13/09/2022 21:57

Yika · 13/09/2022 21:02

I think he was well prepared both for his mothers death and also for his new role. She (the queen) also stepped up to the throne at a very young age having lost her own father in a much more untimely fashion and as far as I know she has always kept a very unruffled demeanour. I think he should be able to rise above petty annoyances when in public. It doesn’t show him in a good light.

Comparing levels of grief between people is dehumanising.

Lifeomars · 13/09/2022 21:58

I am a republican for many reasons, and one of them is that I feel the constant scrutiny that members of the royal family are subjected to and the weird world of part demi-god and part soap opera character that they inhabit is unnatural and does nobody, us or them any good. They could all go and be private citizens and still lead very wealthy and privileged lives far away from all this stress and endless appraisal with everything they do, say and wear being picked over

Connie2468 · 13/09/2022 21:58

He's a pampered prince who's used to snapping at his minions.

daisychain01 · 13/09/2022 21:58

King Charles must be absolutely physically and emotionally shot to pieces, is the reality.

antelopevalley · 13/09/2022 21:59

And when national mourning is happening so things are being cancelled all over the shop, why can't Charles wait until national mourning is over before getting rid of a load of staff.
It is incredibly insensitive. It is always one rule for the plebs, another rule for the royals.

Hugasauras · 13/09/2022 22:00

Re; the redundancies, I imagine they felt they had to put out a communication to answer questions from staff, who no doubt were wondering what it means for their jobs. Not communicating with them for days and days would have been equally poor. I'm not sure they could win on this one.

Wombat100 · 13/09/2022 22:01

YANBU.

He may be a bit of a grouch but who wouldn’t be in his shoes at the moment? He’s just lost his mother, only relatively recently lost his dad and is now travelling the four corners of the nation/making speeches and small talk with everyone and their dog while being filmed and photographed constantly.

He has had barely a second to grieve privately.

I wouldn’t want his job for the world, and anyone who is judging him for throwing a minor wobbly over a leaking pen needs to give their head a wobble. Don’t you all snap sometimes?

MeanMrMustardSeed · 13/09/2022 22:01

All the staff will know the deal with being in the royal household. When things change in the RF, you might be moved into another household, or the job will end. The letter was no doubt meant to acknowledge that people will be worried about what will be happening to their jobs (something that surely they’ve been considering for at the last 10 years as the queen has aged), and reassure them that there will be support provided, and that if there is no longer a job for them, then they will receive an enhanced severance pay.

I don’t see a problem with that. Being ignored would be worse.

StoneofDestiny · 13/09/2022 22:01

He is known for being short fused as was his father. He also isn't used to doing things for himself. All that predates the death of his mother!

He is in the position to cut down all the palaver he and his family have agreed to at vast expense. Next will be the Coronation - and it has to be said, he is in his 70's...........

Emotionalsupportviper · 13/09/2022 22:01

I was shocked when I read this - what an appalling act. He's not a nice man.

Getofftheladder · 13/09/2022 22:01

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 13/09/2022 21:12

That's because the media was far, far less intrusive and more reverent for a large proportion of the Queen's reign.

Totally disagree with that. Media was horrible to her at times.

She had tremendous self control and a brilliant sense of humour. There are plenty of videos of things going wrong and she acts with dignity and grace and usually makes a joke out of it.

King Charles in those videos was obviously irritated but to be honest I would too if I’d just spent a night standing by a coffin and then flew to Ireland the next day. His schedule this week is gruelling for his age.

nachoavocado · 13/09/2022 22:02

Hugasauras · 13/09/2022 22:00

Re; the redundancies, I imagine they felt they had to put out a communication to answer questions from staff, who no doubt were wondering what it means for their jobs. Not communicating with them for days and days would have been equally poor. I'm not sure they could win on this one.

Yeah I agree. And there's like time limits on the consultations etc so i imagine they thought it best to start the process

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 22:02

Or they could have TUPEd them over to the Palace. We keep being told "now is not the time for whatever ". Yet it is the time to sack people who have probably been working really hard to make this ceremonial palava look seamless.

Olive19741205 · 13/09/2022 22:03

Why post about it?

Eh? What are we allowed to post according to you? Why post about it indeed😂

Do you not know what forums are for?

Getofftheladder · 13/09/2022 22:04

antelopevalley · 13/09/2022 21:59

And when national mourning is happening so things are being cancelled all over the shop, why can't Charles wait until national mourning is over before getting rid of a load of staff.
It is incredibly insensitive. It is always one rule for the plebs, another rule for the royals.

If anyone reads the article they haven’t been made redundant, just notified their jobs are at risk. It would surely be self apparent anyway.

AllLopsided · 13/09/2022 22:05

My DH is into fountain pens, old and new - I've tried a few of his and he's given me a couple of nice ones. They all bloody leak!! So I can understand the 'every time' comment. However you'd think he'd have got used to it by now!

I saw him and Camilla leaving BP not long after the late Queen's coffin arrived - really hope they've gone for an early night in their own bed(?s).

Dreamwhisper · 13/09/2022 22:05

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 13/09/2022 20:58

Grief is not 'bad behaviour', he's human!

Are you joking? Your post makes out like he has snapped at someone or fired an individual in misplaced anger and grief.

He's systematically making jobless dozens of people who are working very hard and who could have been kept on in a new role.

It's kind of pathetic (actually, deceptive) to pretend it's just grief and upset causing him to lash out. That would be perfectly understandable.

He is both allowed to grieve and has my sympathies, and is wrong to allow this to happen. They are not mutually exclusive things and you cannot excuse the latter due to the former.

Inyournewdress · 13/09/2022 22:06

‘You signed the 12th earlier’ 😂