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It seems people can no longer be bothered with adverbs - AIBU?

129 replies

Q2C4 · 12/09/2022 10:14

I keep seeing comments online in which people confused adjectives and adverbs. For example:
"He's done amazing to get this far."
"It's made different to other ones."
"She talks so loud!"

Can people no longer be bothered to write out the extra "ly" which is usually required to turn an adjective into an adverb? Or don't people know the difference?

YABU - English grammar is hard and teaching is patchy. Stop being pedantic.
YANBU - social media & smart phone auto correct have made people lazy and they should make the effort!

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Culldesack · 12/09/2022 17:47

CaramelTwirl · 12/09/2022 17:45

YABU . Piss off to Pedants' corner and take your condescending attitude with you.

Or one might call it having literary standards.

Q2C4 · 12/09/2022 17:48

@PAFMO so it's that people are deliberately choosing to merge adjectives & adverbs, rather than not being aware of the difference?
Maybe it is that. I know one person who was taught to read & write properly but now deliberately says things like "I done this." I am guessing that it's because she thinks it's more socially acceptable.

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vickibee · 12/09/2022 17:53

’could of’ and your instead of you’ re really annoy me.
hope your well in a text 😬

LexMitior · 12/09/2022 17:54

People are badly educated. It depends where you live and work if it is socially acceptable. You take note, say nothing, but you don't then hand this person a job presenting or talking about anything of complexity.

Hawkins001 · 12/09/2022 18:02

Q2C4 · 12/09/2022 10:14

I keep seeing comments online in which people confused adjectives and adverbs. For example:
"He's done amazing to get this far."
"It's made different to other ones."
"She talks so loud!"

Can people no longer be bothered to write out the extra "ly" which is usually required to turn an adjective into an adverb? Or don't people know the difference?

YABU - English grammar is hard and teaching is patchy. Stop being pedantic.
YANBU - social media & smart phone auto correct have made people lazy and they should make the effort!

My written English is not very good, and I need improving. When I was ment to be studying English for my GCSE, I was busy with art.

Q2C4 · 12/09/2022 19:09

LexMitior · 12/09/2022 17:54

People are badly educated. It depends where you live and work if it is socially acceptable. You take note, say nothing, but you don't then hand this person a job presenting or talking about anything of complexity.

That's one of my worries; in staying silent about the importance of good language skills, society is effectively writing off so many people.

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LexMitior · 12/09/2022 20:03

Correcting someone's expression of English at work is simply not worth it. If they know better, they will do it themselves. If they don't know better or don't correct it, then they've selected themselves out and you would get all types of hell if you tried to change it.

You simply move on and find someone who doesn't have this issue.

Idontknowwhatto · 12/09/2022 20:21

A debauched attitude towards punctuation is my bugbear.

We always come here for our Sunday carvery amazing food and great service highly recommend!!!!!!!!!!!!

Y7drama · 12/09/2022 20:24

ClottedCreamAndStrawberries · 12/09/2022 11:47

I also hate ‘it needs mended’ 😡😡 I also hate I’m full of cold’. I actually stop reading posts whenever someone writes the second one.

funny what different people find annoying. I get the it needs mended thing but I’m full of cold sounds perfectly ok to me! Obviously a regional thing.

AssignedSlytherinAtBirth · 12/09/2022 20:38

Idontknowwhatto · 12/09/2022 20:21

A debauched attitude towards punctuation is my bugbear.

We always come here for our Sunday carvery amazing food and great service highly recommend!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, me too. An exclamation mark adds a little spice to a sentence - putting loads is like adding a jug of curry powder and spoiling the whole thing. I have a mate who does this, and often wonder how many she would put it she had something really amazing happen. A bear jumped out in front of my car!!!!!!!!!!! I was in Croydon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kokapetl · 12/09/2022 20:55

DadDadDad · 12/09/2022 14:26

I have a distant relative who is a primary school teacher and her grammar and punctuation is so bad I've had to mute her on Facebook for the sake of my blood pressure!

@Kokapetl - that should be "are so bad", since subject is plural ("grammar and punctuation").

Sorry, you're an inevitable victim of Muphry's Law (or one of its variants), and in this context, I had to point it out. Smile

Yes, I knew it would happen somewhere!

I started out with just grammar then added punctuation as an afterthought, forgetting to make the verb agree.

However, I did start with agreeing that in general life, it isn't that important, just that teachers should be able to use language correctly. I'm not a teacher...

TQIDLLTK · 12/09/2022 21:15

Rosehugger · 12/09/2022 15:39

I do think language is becoming more colloquial than it ever was

Really? I think far less. Accents and dialects are disappearing in English and language is becoming homogenised, which I think is a real shame.

This entirely, I am fed up of reading American everything, there's a language whitewash afoot. My local newspaper talked of "dumpsters" and "reaching out" during a bin strike in Scotland - just naw.

YADNBU

MrsJagoRoss · 12/09/2022 23:42

Yy - the SJWs have brought in American words like “y’all” and refer to toilets as “bathrooms”. I find it so irritating!

Also, on the topic of punctuation, people who leave a space before an exclamation mark ! Surely it’s more effort to put a space in? Why?! It’s floating in midair !

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 12/09/2022 23:43

10HailMarys · 12/09/2022 10:29

Colloquial English is different from formal English. People speak in different ways for different occasions, and dialects vary too. This has always been the case; it's nothing to do with either teaching or laziness, really. Language - particularly informal language - changes over time, and always has. Quirks come and go.

There was a time when the word 'Hello' was considered an awful, lazy modern abomination by a lot of people. And 'OK' too.

What are you meant to say instead of hello?

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 12/09/2022 23:45

FlaminNoraPhyllis · 12/09/2022 11:55

YABU.

What does it matter? As long as I can work out what others are saying, it is not an issue to me.

When I see it pointed out on forums etc, it just comes across as pedantic for the sake of some faux superiority.

We don't need to take it upon ourselves to school other people, nor feel any way about how they talk or write.

Do you realise that people who learn English as a foreign language in another country speak much better English than many people do here?

Luredbyapomegranate · 13/09/2022 00:02

People who write like this don’t speak what used to be called standard English (RP and its close cousins).

Some of them will be writing informally, and will know how to use standard English in writing when they want to.

Some of them won’t.

I doubt this would have been any different 30 years ago.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/09/2022 00:04

YANBU. It sounds sloppy and uneducated. But you’ll be told it doesn’t matter, nobody but pernickety old pedants care any more.
But I honestly don’t think that’s true. Many people do care.

Must say my not-so-inner pedant rejoiced when a dd of maybe 10, after tests at school, said, ‘English was OK, Mum, but I did really craply at maths.’ 😂

FacebookPhotos · 13/09/2022 01:15

YABU but not for the reasons you state. For most people posting online is very informal, so they don't see the need to pay attention to grammar rules. Many will be perfectly capable of applying the rules "correctly" for formal writing. Including me!

However, I'm not a fan of having strict grammar rules. I love that language evolves and enjoy looking up where words / phrases came from and how meanings change over time. It makes me smile (inside) when people use "blood is thicker than water" to mean "family first". Life would be way more dull if everything stayed the same.

Highamite · 13/09/2022 01:32

Mine is 'baby'

How is baby? Does baby sleep through? Is baby teething?

milkyaqua · 13/09/2022 01:38

"You did amazing!"

It's bled into the rest of the world from the USA, this new way of speaking, and there seems to be zero awareness of the existence of adverbs.

It seemed to begin with the ear-grating "You did good/great!" and now there are no adverbs of any sort. "The steak was cooked perfect!"

StinkyWizzleteets · 13/09/2022 02:06

When I’m being paid to write I’ll put in effort and write proper like. On MN it’s too much fun making mistakes that annoy people. Life is so
short to be over concerned with the education standards of others.

*if I’m honest I found that quite hard to write and had to stop and think…

Glitterblue · 13/09/2022 03:22

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 12/09/2022 12:24

my pet hates are removing the preposition ‘to”

I’m gonna go Tesco later, want anything ?

and

Using “text” instead of “texted” as if it were a past participle

”I text him to tell him I’m ovulating and he didn’t even come home”

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr These are my pet hates too - along with the ever increasing use of "I seen" and "I done" and "if I would of". Even the teaching assistants in DD's school all use these, and that really annoys me. My best friend is from down south and she moved to the north of England a few years ago. Up until she moved, she hadn't really heard anyone use these and she thought it was a northern thing, but I see Facebook friends from all over the country doing it.

garlictwist · 13/09/2022 03:43

I noticed this in covid - "shop safe". No thanks.

tottielottie · 13/09/2022 03:51

Good God this drives me insane. I thought it was an American thing. It hurts my ears!

Funkyblues101 · 13/09/2022 04:09

It all started with X Factor's "you did great".