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Am I being unreasonable?
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ShandaLear · 09/09/2022 14:44
DixonD · 09/09/2022 13:30
Yes it’s weird isn’t it? Like we’re embarrassed of the U.K. I know our history is a bit controversial sometimes, but still…
IcedPurple · 09/09/2022 12:41
GB is the only country where flying your nation's flag, even in the country itself, is seen as controversial.
It’s because it’s been hijacked by the far right in the same way as the England flag, and in NI it is seen as a symbol of oppression by many. To me it looks tacky and screams skinheads and football hooliganism.
10HailMarys · 09/09/2022 14:53
I don't put up flags for anything, but flags are generally lowered to half-mast for mourning, so to make a point of displaying one for a death seems unusual to me. A royal death is the polar opposite of a jubilee, so if I was going to do something I'd do something sombre, personally, and save the flags for the coronation. Not judging anyone else's preference though, and I've no idea what's standard because I've never lived through a royal death before!
HebeSunshine · 09/09/2022 15:19
DappledThings · 09/09/2022 13:57
God, I hope there is never another major war, because I don't know who'd defend this island. I barely know anyone under 30 with a shred of national pride or identity. On the contrary, most seem ashamed to be British.
I'm mostly ashamed to be British. I always felt I could ride on the coat tails of Europeaness though. I am proud to be European and would have far more happily defended the EU as a member of it than the UK alone. 🇪🇺is a less uncomfortable symbol for me to see than 🇬🇧.
But we digress. It's fine to stick the flag up if you want to. Most people won't notice and those that do will either approve or not care. It's not a big deal. Would be a bit embarrassing to get it upside down but again hardly anyone will notice. I know there is a right way round but I would have to Google it to check.
That’s very sad indeed.
Ever thought of moving out of the UK to a country in your beloved European Union?
🇬🇧
Deguster · 09/09/2022 15:19
Of course it fine to fly the union flag. Our neighbour (retired ex-army, quite senior) is my authority on the subject. He installed a massive flagpole when we moved in. I thought “oh gawd” but he’s absolutely delightful and has become besties with autistic DS. He has the union flag (not Jack) at half mast since last night.
pelagra · 09/09/2022 15:24
There is official guidance at www.gov.uk/government/news/death-of-her-majesty-the-queen but it says nothing about windows.
It seems the flag should go back up to full height while Charles is being proclaimed King. I'm going to wait until the coronation to put anything up. I wouldn't put flags out for a family death: it feels too like celebrating.
TeenDivided · 09/09/2022 15:26
I looked it up this morning.
You don't need to fly it at half mast if you can't.
However what you can do is also fly a loose black 'mourning ribbon' at the top of the flag, it should be the full horizontal length of the flag and no more than 10% of its vertical size.
What I can't see is how to do it if you normally suspend your flag by the top 2 corners like we do.
We always fly flags for celebratory royal events & bunting. Trying to work out how best to do a flag for this.
DickDarstedly · 09/09/2022 15:28
Far from not being ‘allowed’ to fly the Union Jack, this country is absolutely famous for being flag wavers. Ask the average European what the British are known for and they will tell you that they love displaying their flag. This is very different in other countries. In Germany for example, it is far more unusual to display the National flag.
I have lived in Holland, Germany and Spain and travel to several other EU countries for work. I can tell you that national flags are far less common in other countries.
Culldesack · 09/09/2022 15:29
Hoppinggreen · 09/09/2022 15:22
To be fair it’s the one time you can do it and people won’t think you are a “certain type”
And yes, I know that the Flag itself isn’t inherently racist etc but generally there tends to be a certain section of the community that displays it.
I'm not having a go at you. Just that it's annoying, when it seems to be only the Union Jack and flag of St George, that get tarred with that brush.
DickDarstedly · 09/09/2022 15:31
@Culldesack what do you mean that it’s only the British flag that is criticised though? You imply that other flags are fine. What other flags? It’s really not common for people to fly flags in other countries either. Where does this idea come from the the British are not allowed to be patriotic?
Culldesack · 09/09/2022 15:32
DickDarstedly · 09/09/2022 15:08
@IcedPurple
GB is the only country where flying your nation's flag, even in the country itself, is seen as controversial
That is just not true at all and I wonder where you got the idea from? Are you a Daily Mail reader by any chance?
Two things you can always guarantee to be wheeled out on MN
Daily Mail
Tories/Boris Johnson
I rely do wonder how so many with cope now BJ has stepped down. Poor old Liz Truss.
Culldesack · 09/09/2022 15:33
DickDarstedly · 09/09/2022 15:31
@Culldesack what do you mean that it’s only the British flag that is criticised though? You imply that other flags are fine. What other flags? It’s really not common for people to fly flags in other countries either. Where does this idea come from the the British are not allowed to be patriotic?
To start with, anybody who throws the word racist around, like confetti.
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