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How did she decline so rapidly?

472 replies

Maggiethecat · 09/09/2022 09:19

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

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YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 09/09/2022 18:02

I just find it odd that her other children count get there in time
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JudgeJ · 09/09/2022 18:04

iolaus · 09/09/2022 17:17

My father wasn't feeling wonderful on the Monday morning (but was still pottering about and insisting he was fine)
He went downhill Monday afternoon, by Tuesday morning we knew it was hours - he died just after midnight on Wednesday

My Father at 74 walked 4 houses down to discuss tomato planting with his friend, sat in an arm chair and died. It can happen very quickly,

JudgeJ · 09/09/2022 18:05

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 09/09/2022 18:02

I just find it odd that her other children count get there in time
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I think that's an indication of something massive having occurred yesterday morning, Charles would not have been so far away had the indications been any different.

pagopago · 09/09/2022 18:06

In the final photo of her, her eyes seem very dilated and unfocused. I wonder if perhaps she was losing her sight or was on strong medication which would dilate her pupils.

As with previous posters, she probably hung on long enough to see off Boris, see in the new PM, safe in the knowledge her beloved nation will be looked after.

RIP Ma'am.

CapMarvel · 09/09/2022 18:09

Honestly I think it's desperately sad that she was still working up until the end.

There needs to be a process in place that says once the HoS gets to a certain age they pass the role over. At 96 she shouldn't have been spending her last days shaking hands with fucking Boris.

Xenia · 09/09/2022 18:11

I want to work until I die. My father almost did too. it is not a bad thing - many people like it.

On sudden deaths my grandfather died of a heart attack telling a joke at a masonic lodge in Bishop Auckland at a dinner with his friends, a rather nice way to go and very quickly.

randomsabreuse · 09/09/2022 18:13

jennakong · 09/09/2022 16:49

I found it slightly odd that she and LT were photographed in front of a roaring fire. May be northern Scotland it's still summer, fgs. Maybe she was feeling chilly and poorly. She was also wearing what looked like a cardigan, hardly her usual attire.

Weather has been dire in Scotland all week. Definitely not unreasonable to have a fire/heating in an older stone building! NE Scotland was torrential downpours and getting down to freezing in the Glens relatively near Balmoral overnight recently. Been pretty wet (but somewhat warmer) in Glasgow.

bellac11 · 09/09/2022 18:13

pagopago · 09/09/2022 18:06

In the final photo of her, her eyes seem very dilated and unfocused. I wonder if perhaps she was losing her sight or was on strong medication which would dilate her pupils.

As with previous posters, she probably hung on long enough to see off Boris, see in the new PM, safe in the knowledge her beloved nation will be looked after.

RIP Ma'am.

The photo is not inn enough detail for you to make such a comment, stop making things up!!

She is more than likely to have been on strong medication however, certainly if she had mobility issues, she may have been dosed up to enable her to move about for a bit for that piece of work.

If she did have cancer as some have suggested then she may well have been on strong painkillers

sunglassesonthetable · 09/09/2022 18:14

There needs to be a process in place that says once the HoS gets to a certain age they pass the role over. At 96 she shouldn't have been spending her last days shaking hands with fucking Boris.

I think that is exactly what she would have wanted to be doing.

She saw every prime minister during her reign, in and out. She would have absolutely wanted to be fulfilling her duty.

Aconitum · 09/09/2022 18:15

Swimmingpoolsally · 09/09/2022 09:36

From her hands it was end stage cancer, when my grandmother had the same I was told by the doctors it was because her organs were failing. It’s a sure sign that both death is imminent and it’s end stage cancer.

My Dad's hands look just like that. He is 86. He doesn't have cancer he's just old.

thenewduchessoflapland · 09/09/2022 18:19

DH's grandma was 84 and passed a month after our wedding;she like most elderly people had common age related health issues here and there;she took Ill so very quickly;FIL popped in morning and evening to check on her each day;she was fine the evening before;in the morning she seemed to be struggling so FIL called the GP;was told in the afternoon she was in organ failure and didn't have long left;she died in the early hours of the next morning.

Thé human body can only live so long;the queen and her husband lived longer than most but eventually everyone has to died and they did.

Whatthebarnacles · 09/09/2022 18:21

If it helps, I spoke to my dad one afternoon and literally a couple of hours later he was dead. He was 51, with zero health concerns. Sudden deaths or changes in health out of nowhere happen. That's why I voted YABU. x

Coralolive · 09/09/2022 18:21

I hope she got to hear that her great grandchildren had settled into their new school, enjoyed their first day.

Benjispruce4 · 09/09/2022 18:24

If she had terminal cancer, it makes the risk of a clot much higher. This is what happened to my DM. The clot can travel to the brain or lung and then it’s very quick

CapMarvel · 09/09/2022 18:26

Whether she wanted it or not, there comes a point where the HoS will not be physically or mentally capable of fulfilling the role and it's unethical to dress her up for a photo op when she's clearly on her last legs.

urgen · 09/09/2022 18:28

I wish people wouldn’t mention Boris as part cause of her death. What on earth has he got to do with any of this.

Some people just cannot help themselves not to make it political. Shame on you at this time

Zigzog · 09/09/2022 18:29

My nan had end stage cancer but was still up and about the house and chatting to people. One day she went for her usual afternoon nap and when my aunt went to check on her an hour later, she had died in her sleep.

Starseeking · 09/09/2022 18:29

While she was standing and smiling, I thought she looked quite unwell when meeting Liz Truss, especially with her very grey hands. I had no clue what was wrong, but remember saying to my Dad I didn't think the Queen had long left. I'm surprised it was only 2 days later that she passed away though.

sponsabillaries · 09/09/2022 18:29

jennakong · 09/09/2022 16:49

I found it slightly odd that she and LT were photographed in front of a roaring fire. May be northern Scotland it's still summer, fgs. Maybe she was feeling chilly and poorly. She was also wearing what looked like a cardigan, hardly her usual attire.

She was regularly photographed wearing cardigans in informal settings from the 1950s onwards!

I very much hope that it was a good death: lucid to the end, quick, without suffering, and at home. I hope for such an end myself one day.

Tiredalwaystired · 09/09/2022 18:32

My dad walked himself into hospital where he was diagnosed with cancer. He died 36 hours later.

it happens.

asblindasabat · 09/09/2022 18:32

I wonder what happened though. Was she alert and awake on Thursday morning then all of a sudden something just happened? I wonder did she die quickly or was she unconscious for a bit and then quietly slipped away?

CapMarvel · 09/09/2022 18:33

Starseeking · 09/09/2022 18:29

While she was standing and smiling, I thought she looked quite unwell when meeting Liz Truss, especially with her very grey hands. I had no clue what was wrong, but remember saying to my Dad I didn't think the Queen had long left. I'm surprised it was only 2 days later that she passed away though.

She was clearly very unwell. This is my point, I would put money on her having been in bed 10 minutes before Truss arrived and probably being on oxygen etc away from the cameras.

There comes a point where she should have been stopped.

neverbeenskiing · 09/09/2022 18:35

She was 96 - in the kindest way, it doesn't take much.

This.

I find all the speculation and in particular the posters who have been examining her photograph with LT for possible telltale signs (her hands, dilated pupils, the fact that she's wearing a cardigan etc) and playing a game of 'Guess What Killed Her Majesty' very odd. She was a very old woman and she died in a place she loved with family at her side which is a good way to go in the scheme of things. Surely that's all that matters.

BarkminsterBlue · 09/09/2022 18:38

jennakong · 09/09/2022 16:49

I found it slightly odd that she and LT were photographed in front of a roaring fire. May be northern Scotland it's still summer, fgs. Maybe she was feeling chilly and poorly. She was also wearing what looked like a cardigan, hardly her usual attire.

It hasn’t got above 15° in Aberdeenshire today and the castle is famously absolutely freezing even in summer.

neverbeenskiing · 09/09/2022 18:40

BarkminsterBlue · 09/09/2022 18:38

It hasn’t got above 15° in Aberdeenshire today and the castle is famously absolutely freezing even in summer.

She was 96! It's well known that people feel the cold more as they age. My Grandmother is in her early 80's and I'm sure she has a cardigan surgically attached to her, her house is always boiling as she insists on having the heating on full blast.

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