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School blazer

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HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 07/09/2022 18:47

Ds has been given a 90 min detention today as he did not ask permission to remove his school blazer during his first lesson today.

The school uniform has only just changed this year (today is their 1st day back) to a jumper/blazer.

In Y7 uniform was a polo shirt and jumper , Y8 uniform changed to a white shirt and tie and then this year Y9 to a shirt, tie jumper and blazer.

NOTHING is in the school policy that you have to request verbal permission to remove the school blazer when in class.

Ds form tutor mentioned nothing to the pupils today about blazer etiquette.

Ds took his blazer off as it was aggravating his eczema however was immediately told off and was given the detention and behaviour points, he tried to explain/show the teacher his skin however was told to stop asking and do his work.

Ds has a rare form of eczema and will now require a course of steroid treatments, the school is fully aware of his medical history (anaphylaxis allergies and skin conditions) also this teacher is fully aware of his medical history as she has taught him since Y7 and also had to administer ds his emergency care plan during a lesson last year.

Tbf im between angry and annoyed, it’s the first day of schooling and of course everyone makes mistakes/over cautious but then this teacher has caused ds condition to flare up and ignored his pleas when trying to explain he was hurting and uncomfortable, I don’t find this acceptable.

Tomorrow I will be requesting that his school nurse provide a pass to remove his blazer, he shouldn’t need to openly discuss his medical condition in front of his peers! in fact my personal opinion is that no child should be forced to sit in a jumper/blazer if they are hot.

AIBU to refuse to allow ds to attend the detention? tomorrow and phone the school to request they amend their school policy to reflect uniform etiquette?

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autienotnaughty · 08/09/2022 08:09

Absolutely refuse the detention, make a complaint and if blazer is causing issues ask for reasonable adjustment that he doesn't wear it.

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MarsupiIami · 08/09/2022 08:18

At this point, does it also need to be logged as an incident/accident?

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lalaloopyhead · 08/09/2022 08:25

I've never understood the rules for students not being able to take off their blazer, even in the height of summer. I don't wear smart work wear now but when I did where a suit I would take the jacket off before sitting down so as not to get it screwed up. Does anyone in real life actually sit down in a blazer/suit jacket??
In your DS case there should definitely be adjustment to the rules to take into account his medical condition (looks painful, bless him), and even without that 90min detention on the first day without explaination of the rules or warning is absolutely bonkers!

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Upontherooftops · 08/09/2022 08:29

Completely unreasonable of the school. I'd complain by email with photos and references to how they have been informed of this previously. You mention a school nurse, is this on the premises? If so, I'd tell them that he is to walk out and go to the nurse if he is refused permission in future. I have a child with IBS, school are supposed to let them go to the loo in class time if they ask and I tell them that if they're refused permission to go to the toilet when needed they're to just say ’ sorry sir, I have to go" and leave. I tell them in that circumstance it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission and I'll help them sort it out with school afterwards.

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Fizbosshoes · 08/09/2022 08:33

Sunnyqueen · 07/09/2022 20:06

What I don't get is that all these teachers are supposed to be so overworked and so over stretched mentally all the time, how do they possibly have the inclination and headspace to dole out sanctions for this stupid shit.
Trying to put myself in a teachers shoes I genuinely struggle to see how I would muster up the fucks to bat an eyelid at an uncomfortable student taking their blazer off. That must take a special sort of a jobsworth.

I never understand this logic either.
At my DC school they allowed PE kit to be worn all day during covid. As the girls skorts were tiny and it was pretty chilly, they permitted joggers, leggings and hoodies. But the amount of emails and reminders we got about ensuring there were no visible logistics all on the other items, was ridiculous. With all the extra covid protocols I felt sorry for teachers but I couldn't understand why they would make more work for themselves by policing logos on leggings!!

And I feel sure teachers wouldnt have to defer to the head, or head of department before they removed a jacket because they were too hot!

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Fizbosshoes · 08/09/2022 08:34

Logistics = logos

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CaptainSamCarter · 08/09/2022 08:38

Your poor DS. I'd be demanding a call with the head today and report them to Ofsted. They have failed to safeguard the health of your son.

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Morred · 08/09/2022 08:40

It’s a clear failure of his care plan isn’t it? I’d start with that and move on to the uniform policy needing to be written down/told to students. (Do they need to ask permission to put them back on again too?)

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Christmasiscominghohoho · 08/09/2022 08:45

I’d be fuming. Your poor DS.

some teachers are not fit to teach. I think some are really shit and should leave the profession as they clearly have no empathy.

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NovaDeltas · 08/09/2022 08:48

People would have more sympathy for teachers if some didn't use the role to be nasty, petty dictators.

I wouldn't be letting my kid do the detention and I'd be explaining why. Detentions for behaviour matters is fine. Dictating bullshit like removing a blazer on his days, no, they can piss off.

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MrsDrSpencerReid · 08/09/2022 08:48

I’d be absolutely fuming op, your poor boy.

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Hoppinggreen · 08/09/2022 08:54

It’s the rule at my DCs school (they can say please may I take off my blazer in 3 languages) and I dint have an issue with it BUT in your sons case I would say he shouldn’t even be wearing on in the first place!
I appreciate lots of kids try it on and claim they can’t do XYZ due to allergies or whatever but this is very different. You have engaged with the school and complied as much as possible with uniform rules so this never should have happened.
I hope he recovers from the flare up ASAP

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BaileySharp · 08/09/2022 08:56

Teacher is ridiculous. The no removal qithout permission policy is crazy, I don't have to ask anyone at work if I need to take my cardigan off! I'm all for following uniform policy but what's the point in this one? I don't like blazers at the best of times and was lucky at my school it wasn't part of uniform

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lunar1 · 08/09/2022 08:57

Why are some schools so obsessed with controlling exactly what a child wears. Mine are in an independent school with a pretty fussy uniform. They have never been made to ask permission to put on or take off part of their uniform, it's insane.

I'd be bloody furious, especially as the teacher knows about his skin issues. Is the teacher stupid, or are they one that likes a power trip?

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FallSky · 08/09/2022 08:58

Yanbu.

even if the eczema wasn't an issue I'd still say yanbu.

why do parents tolerate these ridiculous rules around children having it dictated to them when they can take a blazer on and off? High schools bang on about preparing kids for adult life then won't let them decide if they're hot or not! It's ridiculous and uneccessary.

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JamesWilbyFanClub · 08/09/2022 08:58

You can tell them he won't be doing the detention (1) because it's unjustified and (2) because he will be attending hospital for treatment.
There are 2 issues- one is that the new policy of having to ask permission to remove the blazer obviously has not been communicated effectively to pupils or parents. The second that your son has particular medical needs and should not be subject to the blazer rule.
(If it's a heat issue, could a compromise be reached where he doesn't wear his jumper but he does wear his blazer?)

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FallSky · 08/09/2022 08:59

Not saying you're tolerating it OP as clearly you aren't but if parents got together I'm sure they could put a stop to such idiotic policies.

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themimi · 08/09/2022 09:03

Teacher here. Call the school. Calmly. I would be very surprised if there was not more to this to warrant the sanction.

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pointythings · 08/09/2022 09:05

This is ridiculous and the people defending it are even more ridiculous. Now that your son is going to need hospital treatment, this needs to be pursued all the way to the top. Calmly, but with absolute persistence.

And of course no detention.

The British uniform fetish is beyond stupid.

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Pinkishpurple · 08/09/2022 09:09

At my daughter's school they are only allowed to take jackets off if the Teacher's say they can. Even during the heatwave thry sometimes had to wear them. Honestly i think it's so odd, what in life is being forcibly made to wear a blazer suppose to teach you?

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minipie · 08/09/2022 09:10

This is unbelievable. Even regardless of the eczema, why make students keep uncomfortable restrictive and hot blazers on in lessons? What is the benefit? Insanity.

Hope your DS recovers quickly OP. Please do make a fuss. Good luck.

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BlackeyedSusan · 08/09/2022 09:10

FallSky · 08/09/2022 08:58

Yanbu.

even if the eczema wasn't an issue I'd still say yanbu.

why do parents tolerate these ridiculous rules around children having it dictated to them when they can take a blazer on and off? High schools bang on about preparing kids for adult life then won't let them decide if they're hot or not! It's ridiculous and uneccessary.

Because in reality you have only one or two choices of school you can get into.

And bloody hell that is an insane school reaction. (By the school and of his poor skin)

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lawandgin · 08/09/2022 09:14

Yanbu and no way I'd be allowing that detention. Absolutely ridiculous. Hope your ds gets better soon op.

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BlackeyedSusan · 08/09/2022 09:19

Speak to the attendance officer when reporting the absence and make it clear this is as a direct result of the actions of one teacher failing to follow his care plan.

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Novum · 08/09/2022 09:21

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 08/09/2022 07:29

Well looks like a day to the hospital for ds 😡his skin has flared up so much that I’m fearful it’s turning into eczema herpeticum so he will likely need admitted for IV antiviral meds!!!!

I am beyond angry!!!! All this could have been easily avoidable if he was simply
listen too!!!

When you let the school know why he is off, include something to the effect that it's a pity this has happened as a result of being made to wear his blazer yesterday in direct contravention of your previous agreement with them. It won't hurt to mark their card.

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