School blazer

[HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend]

Ds has been given a 90 min detention today as he did not ask permission to remove his school blazer during his first lesson today.

The school uniform has only just changed this year (today is their 1st day back) to a jumper/blazer.

In Y7 uniform was a polo shirt and jumper , Y8 uniform changed to a white shirt and tie and then this year Y9 to a shirt, tie jumper and blazer.

NOTHING is in the school policy that you have to request verbal permission to remove the school blazer when in class.

Ds form tutor mentioned nothing to the pupils today about blazer etiquette.

Ds took his blazer off as it was aggravating his eczema however was immediately told off and was given the detention and behaviour points, he tried to explain/show the teacher his skin however was told to stop asking and do his work.

Ds has a rare form of eczema and will now require a course of steroid treatments, the school is fully aware of his medical history (anaphylaxis allergies and skin conditions) also this teacher is fully aware of his medical history as she has taught him since Y7 and also had to administer ds his emergency care plan during a lesson last year.

Tbf im between angry and annoyed, it’s the first day of schooling and of course everyone makes mistakes/over cautious but then this teacher has caused ds condition to flare up and ignored his pleas when trying to explain he was hurting and uncomfortable, I don’t find this acceptable.

Tomorrow I will be requesting that his school nurse provide a pass to remove his blazer, he shouldn’t need to openly discuss his medical condition in front of his peers! in fact my personal opinion is that no child should be forced to sit in a jumper/blazer if they are hot.

AIBU to refuse to allow ds to attend the detention? tomorrow and phone the school to request they amend their school policy to reflect uniform etiquette?

[Soubriquet]

Oh the poor boy!
I hope the school rethinks it’s policy now

[faw2009]

Oh my days, this is outrageous. Your poor son. I also have a teenage son with eczema and overheating makes him itch like crazy.

Hoping that your son recovers OK in hospital and that you keep well.

I'd be raging too. I'd be taking this very high.

[pointythings]

So rage is now fully appropriate. I hope his consultant gives the school an earful, and a formal complaint higher up is absolutely justified. Aside from anything else, this teacher has wilfully impacted your son's education as well as potentially endangering his life. I hope the apologists on this thread take note.

[MarsupiIami]

Your poor DS! How is he feeling about it all?

[DixonD]

@Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim

I am so so sorry, I hope he has a speedy recovery.


Rage is appropriate, I would be looking for blood and would absolutely involve solicitors.

With all due respect, what do you expect a solicitor to do?

OP, I hope he gets better soon. School has a lot to answer for. Stupid bloody rules.

[InChocolateWeTrust]

This is really ridiculous.

I object to these rules where the kids are required to wear the blazer continually as it is but this is absurd when there is no policy and your DS tried to explain the medical reason he could not keep it on!

Its mad. The shirts & ties look smart anyway without the blazer on, I think it's fine to require they arrive with one or wear it on particular smart occasions (perhaps if speaking in an assembly etc) but its mad making children sweat in clothing they don't need on when they've got the uniform shirt/tie underneath it.

[Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim]

@DixonD

With all due respect, what do you expect a solicitor to do?

OP, I hope he gets better soon. School has a lot to answer for. Stupid bloody rules.

There is actually a lot they could do. The child has suffered physical and mental harm due to direct action of the school. This is severe. He is hospitalised and his life put at risk.

Obviously he and his recovery is number 1 priority..


But I would absolutly be looking for a pay out to compensate.

Also has the OP and the father lost income? Had to pay costs due to this hospital stay? That's directly the schools fault and something they should compensate

[LadyLothbrook]

A teacher threatened my DD with detention after she fell in the playground and hurt her hand. DD wanted to go get it cleaned, teacher argued it was just a little hand scrape and she needed to get into lesson and to wipe it on her trousers. DD wasn't crying but knew it needed cleaning as she had broken skin on the palm of her hand. Anyway, she 'obeyed' the teacher and finished the rest of the school day (2 lessons). By the time I collected her and she got in the car and told me what happened her small wound was already showing 'tracking' up the arm. Ended up in hospital with sepsis. Iodine flushes, drips, ivs. Everything. The kicker was it all happened that fast we were in hospital from leaving school until the next day. I had a voicemail at 9.05am the next morning from the school rudely asking why dd was absent. I think when children have to 'obey' at all costs, including their health, refusing removal of blazers, refusing toilet trips etc then it's a safe guarding issue. If I told my kids they couldn't go to the toilet between certain hours or couldn't remove clothes to regulate their temperature I'd be labeled an abusive parent so why is it on for schools to do it.

[Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim]

@LadyLothbrook

A teacher threatened my DD with detention after she fell in the playground and hurt her hand. DD wanted to go get it cleaned, teacher argued it was just a little hand scrape and she needed to get into lesson and to wipe it on her trousers. DD wasn't crying but knew it needed cleaning as she had broken skin on the palm of her hand. Anyway, she 'obeyed' the teacher and finished the rest of the school day (2 lessons). By the time I collected her and she got in the car and told me what happened her small wound was already showing 'tracking' up the arm. Ended up in hospital with sepsis. Iodine flushes, drips, ivs. Everything. The kicker was it all happened that fast we were in hospital from leaving school until the next day. I had a voicemail at 9.05am the next morning from the school rudely asking why dd was absent. I think when children have to 'obey' at all costs, including their health, refusing removal of blazers, refusing toilet trips etc then it's a safe guarding issue. If I told my kids they couldn't go to the toilet between certain hours or couldn't remove clothes to regulate their temperature I'd be labeled an abusive parent so why is it on for schools to do it.

Bloody hell hope your daughter is OK.
I dread to think of the words that would leave my mouth to that call.

[MarsupiIami]

Wow @LadyLothbrook that's awful.

It's not always easy to advocate for your own health as an adult, it's a lot harder for kids as it is. I get it, some kids mess about. But teachers need to be able to recognise the difference when they have children in their care. It's in their own best interests as it is!

[lunar1]

Your poor son, I can't believe how neglectful his teacher was. Deal with them when you are ready, that teacher can't be in a position of power over your DS again that's for sure. They need moving as a minimum.

[Saynotothefishtank]

I’m so sorry OP. Give the school a hard time, there is no excuse for this. Tell them “all rights are reserved” and take legal advice, your son may be entitled to compensation. Speak to a litigation lawyer when he’s feeling better.

[gatehouseoffleet]

Why do schools have such ridiculous rules? I decide if I am too hot or too cold not a teacher, not my boss, not anyone else but me. Parents should not comply with such stupidity. My son's school did have some silly rules but they didn't have a blazer and didn't extend to this level of nonsense. If they had, I would have complained until it was changed.

I am glad that you've responded robustly OP. I also assumed it was an academy. Schools with such over the top rules usually are - I really don't know how you can force an academy to be accountable short of legal action, unfortunately. He shouldn't' need a special pass because none of the kids should have to comply with such stupidity. And it goes without saying that under no circumstances should he attend the detention even if he had not been hospitalised.

Wishing your son a speedy recovery.

And maybe a new school?

[WitTanks]

@gatehouseoffleet I doubt someone complaining until the rule changed would actually result in a rule change, sadly. Schools always think they are right

[Magenta82]

I really hope your son is OK OP, what an awful situation. These strict uniform rules are ridiculous anyway but the teacher should have known better given your DS's health issues. I hope the school learn from this and don't repeat their mistakes.

[sheepandcaravan]

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend how is your son tonight. I've been thinking of him at work all day

[HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend]

@sheepandcaravan

Thank you for asking, he’s doing really well and if all goes well he will be out by Tuesday.

Next week I’ve arranged to work from home (I HATE working from home) and will be dealing with the school during this time.

Ds won’t be wearing the blazer again and I’m very much of the opinion that I want action taken against the teacher, she was negligent in following ds care plan which had a detrimental impact on his health requiring hospitalisation however not sure if I’m being irrational because tbh I’m still quite angry. I also don’t want this teacher teaching ds as she’s proved she cannot be trusted in following ds care plan.

Im not only angry/frustrated/upset for ds - but because of the impact she enforced on all of us. I’ve had to take emergency parental leave, dh has had to take annual leave, we’ve had to cancel our full week, which has impacted on ds1 and his education all because someone refused to listen or allow ds to control his own body temperature, the whole situation is beyond ludicrous tbh.

[lunar1]

You have every right to want them to take firm action. She has cost you holiday time, parental leave, your sons education and his time settling back into school with friends and his classes.

I think it's really important that the teacher is moved, not your DS, but honestly I'd want her sacked and struck off.

My son was once seriously harmed by a teacher's mistake, but it was a genuine error and not a lunatic on a power trip. I didn't take any action, but in your case I would get legal advice.

I hope he gets out of hospital on Tuesday.

[alrightfella]

Whilst I agree that the situation needs dealing with and it may be best that she doesn't teach your son in future I do think that she was probably not aware that him having to keep his blazer on would lead to this.

[HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend]

alrightfella she was and is fully aware, last year she had to give ds emergency treatment after he took unwell in her class. His care plan hasn’t changed since he started in Y7.

[Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim]

@alrightfella

Whilst I agree that the situation needs dealing with and it may be best that she doesn't teach your son in future I do think that she was probably not aware that him having to keep his blazer on would lead to this.

Who cares? That negligence is very much a her problem and something she can explain when the legal proceedings take place. I will assume the school will not be happy when the pay out has occurred.

[lunar1]

@alrightfella the op clearly states in her op that the teacher is fully aware of her sons medical history, he has a care plan.

[TwinkleChristmas]

@alrightfella

Whilst I agree that the situation needs dealing with and it may be best that she doesn't teach your son in future I do think that she was probably not aware that him having to keep his blazer on would lead to this.

She had his care plan. She should know. It’s beyond ridiculous to say otherwise.

[Magenta82]

I really think the school needs to prove that lessons have been learnt and the behaviour won't be repeated in future. I don't know what that should look like but agree that the teacher should be moved from his class because of her appalling actions.

I think my first response would be to seek legal advice, look to reclaim any lost income and expenses. To make it completely clear how unacceptable this was. However, if you want your son to continue at the school I don't know how helpful this would actually be.

Good luck OP I am glad he is on the mend.

[alrightfella]

Ok I didn't realise that a care plan would be that detailed it would mention heat effects on excema. I'm not a teacher!