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AIBU?

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To think this info on register shouldn't be displayed to all pupils.

112 replies

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 10:31

DD 13 asked me what the blue flag underneath her name stood for when her name and picture is displayed during the morning and afternoon registers.

My first reply was huh? In our day it was a tick with a pen on a paper sheet.

Has a quick Google and it turns out they are using Bromcom and register displays their photo and a symbol.

The blue flag happens to mean Pupil Premium child.
We had a laugh about it saying it means you are disadvantaged by being stuck with only me, and I'm poor! (Tongue in cheek)

Seriously though, there a flags for looked after children, children entitled to free school meals, bad behaviour, gifted talented, special needs.

AIBU to think this info shouldn't be privy to her classmates? I can't honestly say I'm over bothered but some people might be.

I've attached the image from Bromcom.

Waffle over!

To think this info on register shouldn't be displayed to all pupils.
OP posts:
Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 10:38

No it shouldn't be and actually could be a potential data breach as they are not keeping the information secure. The data has the potential to cause embarrassment and perhaps other consequences that would be detrimental to the child.

vodkaredbullgirl · 07/09/2022 10:38

Surely the kids wouldn't know what it means.

Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 10:39

Don't they have Google, the OP just found out what it means very easily.

Rhythmisadancer · 07/09/2022 10:40

that has to be a teacher mistake, allowing the register to be displayed -presumably because the OHP is on and showing the computer screen. Tell the school asap and get them to make sure teachers know that there are data protection and safeguarding issues all over this!

Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 10:44

Yes, good advice let them know ASAP as you could limit the chances of this becoming a breach which in the long run could get the school in to lots of trouble.

Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 10:45

Potential fines to the school which impacts your child the school's budget.

Comefromaway · 07/09/2022 10:48

Ds's school used Bromcom and no-one other than the teacher saw the register. His record was flagged for SEN

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 10:48

Yes I was thinking it is a data breach potentially causing embarrassment.

One Google (and scrolling past clean beaches) found it for me, so I can't imagine a curious 13 year old would have any difficulty.

I'll message the school.

God, I'm always THAT parent 🤣 they sent a job advert our for an Exam Invidulator once... I had to.

OP posts:
Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 10:49

*out

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gatehouseoffleet · 07/09/2022 10:49

Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 10:45

Potential fines to the school which impacts your child the school's budget.

Not any more, the ICO has said that it won't (usually) fine public sector organisations anymore as it only hurts the taxpayer. Or words to that effect.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 10:50

Comefromaway · 07/09/2022 10:48

Ds's school used Bromcom and no-one other than the teacher saw the register. His record was flagged for SEN

My daughter could potentially have a SEN flag, a FSM flag, her PP flag and her house flag! Hopefully no B flag 😱

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Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 10:59

gatehouseoffleet, you are referring to the suggested changes to fines that have been put forward in digital information Bill but it only had second reading in the House of Commons on Monday, no decisions can be based on that yet as it is not the law. Fines will still be issued but they will be capped.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 11:01

School emailed, all nice and calm. Thank you for being reasonable 🤣

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annoyedneighbour1 · 07/09/2022 11:03

Please let us know what they say!

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 11:05

Ps just in case anybody starts frothing... I feel incredibly lucky that DD has access to PP giving her the opportunity to take part in activities that otherwise I would not be able to afford.

At least I didn't threaten to sue 🤣

(Must have caught me in a good mood).

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Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 11:06

annoyedneighbour1 · 07/09/2022 11:03

Please let us know what they say!

I will.

After the eye rolls and not you already!

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GetOffTheRoof · 07/09/2022 11:06

Glad you're taking it up with them - that's an absolute disgrace on their part.

Imagine having a marker which denotes poor behaviour, family income, LAC etc visible to others?! How did they ever think that was acceptable!

The LAC marker in particular could be a significant safety issue for that child - many are placed away from families for their own safety and wellbeing and anonymity is essential.

lanthanum · 07/09/2022 11:08

Teacher error, there should be a stern message sent out to all staff to try and ensure it doesn't happen again. If it happened in more than one registration, that suggests a teacher who hasn't thought about it being an issue, rather than a teacher who simply forgot that the projector was on.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 11:08

GetOffTheRoof · 07/09/2022 11:06

Glad you're taking it up with them - that's an absolute disgrace on their part.

Imagine having a marker which denotes poor behaviour, family income, LAC etc visible to others?! How did they ever think that was acceptable!

The LAC marker in particular could be a significant safety issue for that child - many are placed away from families for their own safety and wellbeing and anonymity is essential.

Yes, this was one of my particular concerns. Like I say it doesn't really impact us, however - like you say above...

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Goldenbear · 07/09/2022 11:09

Yes, that is another financial hit the school may have to potentially take if they get sued by the parents/carer for the breach.

Frogsalad · 07/09/2022 11:12

vodkaredbullgirl · 07/09/2022 10:38

Surely the kids wouldn't know what it means.

Unless they come home and ask their mum what it means just like OP's child did, or just google it themselves.

abovedecknotbelow · 07/09/2022 11:13

that's awful I though schools had done away with stuff like this.

When I was at school one of my best friends was on FSM, the kids had to go and line up at the office to get given a token to hand over in the canteen. needless to say a lot of them didn't because it was seen as a stigma and either went hungry or their friends shared with them. I hope that doesnt happen anymore now most school operate on fingerprints.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 11:14

@lanthanum they've always had the projector on, but never had flags so they must be able to switch them off. I shall await their reply!

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Halstead · 07/09/2022 11:15

I have 2 adopted children who were for their first year with us (before the adoption order was granted) officially classed as LAC.

I’d have been furious if this status had been displayed anywhere (in fact, I kicked off at our GP as they insisted on displaying birth names on their notice boards when calling patients through to GP rooms from public reception until the order was granted).

It really has the potential to be a safeguarding issue with significant ramifications… but even if it isn’t, it’s just information that no one else needs to know and is therefore a GDPR concern.

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 07/09/2022 11:16

vodkaredbullgirl · 07/09/2022 10:38

Surely the kids wouldn't know what it means.

That's not the point, it shouldn't be displayed. Simple as that.

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