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To think this info on register shouldn't be displayed to all pupils.

112 replies

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 10:31

DD 13 asked me what the blue flag underneath her name stood for when her name and picture is displayed during the morning and afternoon registers.

My first reply was huh? In our day it was a tick with a pen on a paper sheet.

Has a quick Google and it turns out they are using Bromcom and register displays their photo and a symbol.

The blue flag happens to mean Pupil Premium child.
We had a laugh about it saying it means you are disadvantaged by being stuck with only me, and I'm poor! (Tongue in cheek)

Seriously though, there a flags for looked after children, children entitled to free school meals, bad behaviour, gifted talented, special needs.

AIBU to think this info shouldn't be privy to her classmates? I can't honestly say I'm over bothered but some people might be.

I've attached the image from Bromcom.

Waffle over!

To think this info on register shouldn't be displayed to all pupils.
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Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 20:16

Culldesack · 07/09/2022 20:11

Surely your only gripe, and rightly so, should be with the blatant negligence in displaying students' private info on a smart screen. I don't quite get the need to analyse the different markers attributed to each student. They are there for a reason and it isn't to the detriment of learners.

Yes that was my only gripe and I emailed (well thought I had) before 11am this morning. There's no more gripe from me other than phone not having enough storage to send said email.

I haven't been rude about it, I'm not sure why PP is saying they don't want to lose Bromcom - just got in - again.

My gripe wasn't even a massive gripe for our situation, however others could potentially be seriously pissed off with it and take it further - hence trying to let school know at my earliest opportunity.

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cansu · 07/09/2022 20:17

The amount of outrage and OTT talk of suing and being disciplined is ridiculous. It is an error. I hardly think the teacher is thinking of causing a terrible data breach or upsetting a student . A s

cansu · 07/09/2022 20:18

A simple call or email to say that a child has queried the flags and should they be hidden would be the proportionate response.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 20:19

cansu · 07/09/2022 20:17

The amount of outrage and OTT talk of suing and being disciplined is ridiculous. It is an error. I hardly think the teacher is thinking of causing a terrible data breach or upsetting a student . A s

Who has mentioned suing? Apart from me as a joke and in reference to something I'd read 10 mins previously.

I've seen no outrage at all nor displayed any.

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Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 20:21

cansu · 07/09/2022 20:18

A simple call or email to say that a child has queried the flags and should they be hidden would be the proportionate response.

Emailed before 11am this morning 🙄 very calmly outlining the situation.

The only one OTT here is you @cansu

Settle down. There was never any argton this thread. Don't try and start one.

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Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 20:21

*argument

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LittleScottieDog · 07/09/2022 20:26

I hate it when teachers show the register on the whiteboard. Why? There's no need!

There is often a lack of training for staff about how to use a whiteboard to the best of its ability, so I've met plenty of teachers who've never known you can freeze a screen or use a dual screen. In this kind of situation, it means a GDPR breach. Definitely right to email, OP. I'll be interested in what their response is.

cansu · 07/09/2022 20:31

Hello OP
I wasn't actually aiming my comment at you at all. I can read and saw that you had indeed emailed! There are however many messages on here talking about the school being sued and teachers being disciplined which I was referring to.

Culldesack · 07/09/2022 20:31

LittleScottieDog · 07/09/2022 20:26

I hate it when teachers show the register on the whiteboard. Why? There's no need!

There is often a lack of training for staff about how to use a whiteboard to the best of its ability, so I've met plenty of teachers who've never known you can freeze a screen or use a dual screen. In this kind of situation, it means a GDPR breach. Definitely right to email, OP. I'll be interested in what their response is.

Oh please. It's down to human error. Of course there is no need to show private info on a smart board, but in most cases, it is inadvertent. Have you ever gone out the house without your purse? Forgetfulness and mistakes are not sins. This is different to a teacher, who has ignored training and wants to do things the lazy way.

Haudyourwheesht · 07/09/2022 20:32

I am a teacher, albeit using a different register system and we've been told categorically that registers are not to be projected. It's a breach of the pupils privacy.

spongedog · 07/09/2022 20:37

Rhythmisadancer · 07/09/2022 10:40

that has to be a teacher mistake, allowing the register to be displayed -presumably because the OHP is on and showing the computer screen. Tell the school asap and get them to make sure teachers know that there are data protection and safeguarding issues all over this!

Please do this. This is a data breach and is important. However any school tries to portray it. So eg it was an accident - doesnt matter it is a data breach. etc.

I am a school data manager with very good GDPR knowledge. I bang on to anyone who listens about this potential risk. SLT always say no teacher would do this. But they do and it is not OK. At all. It really isnt. There are other sensitive data fields that we need to record. There needs to be total discretion as to how that data is stored and communicated. My DPO is less qualified than me. She doesnt understand at all some of the intricacies of Data Protection legislation because her training is so superficial.

Malbecfan · 07/09/2022 20:37

I'm also a teacher and like @Haudyourwheesht , we use a different system and are told categorically NOT to project the register. I set up my screen before a class comes in with a task, then freeze the screen so the kids can see the task but I can look at the register. Once I've taken the register, I close it and unfreeze the screen.

This is a data breach and as such, it should be reported to the data manager. I like the way that the OP is remaining calm about it, but the school needs to know about it, not to apportion blame, but to ensure that something potentially more serious is not displayed.

WonderingWanda · 07/09/2022 20:38

They shouldn't be displaying the register like that. We have families in our school where the children aren't aware of some stwp siblings. The step siblings use a different name but their legal name on the register would give the game away to the siblings who don't know they exist.

Culldesack · 07/09/2022 20:41

WonderingWanda · 07/09/2022 20:38

They shouldn't be displaying the register like that. We have families in our school where the children aren't aware of some stwp siblings. The step siblings use a different name but their legal name on the register would give the game away to the siblings who don't know they exist.

There's far reaching and theres this.

Upwiththelark76 · 07/09/2022 20:43

That’s a GDPR data breach . Report it to the school.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 20:54

OT

@Haudyourwheesht were you ever on a certain seller forum? If so, do you remember anyone who may or may not have by mighty, or a scrubber calling you - hideyerwotsits 🤣

Random!!

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Soontobe60 · 07/09/2022 21:07

Culldesack · 07/09/2022 20:41

There's far reaching and theres this.

This makes no sense to me. Unless you mean half brothers / sisters? Because step siblings will generally have different surnames anyway.
Plus, we only use children’s legal names in school, both on the registers and on their books.

Haudyourwheesht · 07/09/2022 21:09

Not me @Kerrrmieee - I'm faithful to Mumsnet. Wink

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 21:13

Haudyourwheesht · 07/09/2022 21:09

Not me @Kerrrmieee - I'm faithful to Mumsnet. Wink

Well those boards are long gone, but I still reckon you're hiding yer Wotsits.

Never a cheesy puff.

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BadNomad · 07/09/2022 21:15

That's weird. When Bromcom is in projector mode that extra information isn't displayed. Also, if everyone is assigned a house, then they will all have a heart symbol beside their names. Even the people with flags. Strange.

womaninatightspot · 07/09/2022 21:20

abovedecknotbelow · 07/09/2022 11:13

that's awful I though schools had done away with stuff like this.

When I was at school one of my best friends was on FSM, the kids had to go and line up at the office to get given a token to hand over in the canteen. needless to say a lot of them didn't because it was seen as a stigma and either went hungry or their friends shared with them. I hope that doesnt happen anymore now most school operate on fingerprints.

That doesn't happen anymore at least not in schools I'm familiar with. Kids get cards for parents to top up via parent pay in high school. If you're on free meals they top up your card every day. Primary everything is done online so there's no difference in between paid for and fsm.

In my day the dinner lady had a jotter and you told her your number and she put an X against your name if you had fsm. Tbh if you were paying for food you were at the chip shop/ sandwich place not in the dinner hall so it was obvious who had fsm.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 21:20

BadNomad · 07/09/2022 21:15

That's weird. When Bromcom is in projector mode that extra information isn't displayed. Also, if everyone is assigned a house, then they will all have a heart symbol beside their names. Even the people with flags. Strange.

Well clearly my DD questioned on day one why she had a flag and majority had different coloured hearts.

The link after her question found within less than a minute.

docs.bromcom.com/knowledge-base/how-to-create-user-defined-flags/

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Bethany7 · 07/09/2022 21:20

I am a teacher. Sounds like your child's teacher is displaying the register on the class screen when it should lnly be visible on the teacher's computer. They really shouldn't be doing this at all.
I also hope that this was a one off and a mistake.

BadNomad · 07/09/2022 21:23

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 21:20

Well clearly my DD questioned on day one why she had a flag and majority had different coloured hearts.

The link after her question found within less than a minute.

docs.bromcom.com/knowledge-base/how-to-create-user-defined-flags/

Pupils can have multiple symbols, not just one. She would have a house/heart symbol too.

Kerrrmieee · 07/09/2022 21:23

Bethany7 · 07/09/2022 21:20

I am a teacher. Sounds like your child's teacher is displaying the register on the class screen when it should lnly be visible on the teacher's computer. They really shouldn't be doing this at all.
I also hope that this was a one off and a mistake.

Me too, I'll see what happens tomorrow.

Leaving thread now as going nowhere.

Nn @Haudyourwheesht . Hide your wotsits wherever - we shall find you 🤣

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