To think this info on register shouldn't be displayed to all pupils.

[Kerrrmieee]

DD 13 asked me what the blue flag underneath her name stood for when her name and picture is displayed during the morning and afternoon registers.

My first reply was huh? In our day it was a tick with a pen on a paper sheet.

Has a quick Google and it turns out they are using Bromcom and register displays their photo and a symbol.

The blue flag happens to mean Pupil Premium child.
We had a laugh about it saying it means you are disadvantaged by being stuck with only me, and I'm poor! (Tongue in cheek)

Seriously though, there a flags for looked after children, children entitled to free school meals, bad behaviour, gifted talented, special needs.

AIBU to think this info shouldn't be privy to her classmates? I can't honestly say I'm over bothered but some people might be.

I've attached the image from Bromcom.

Waffle over!

Indeed, but the hearts will have changed colour to represent houses, and of course house name will be changed.

However a flag, is just that, a flag. One of the more negative connotations.

Anyhow, I've just sent an email elsewhere and the school one is stuck queued in my outbox and has been since this morning - so they are still not aware !

Hmmm, will look into it, she'll be home in half hourish!

I don't understand why the teacher has the OHP on for register anyway?

Surely they don't leave it on all day? The bulbs are hideously expensive, and the electricity costs will be

This happened when I was at school. You had to queue up every day at break time in a busy area, and anyone going into the office for other reasons got priority so you'd spend a good portion of your break there waiting. If you tried to get the token at a different time of day they'd punish you by making you stand outside the office door for ten minutes first.

Yeah, I went hungry instead. Told my friends that I always ate a big breakfast so I didn't get hungry at school (in reality, sometimes I hadn't had breakfast either )

I'd really hope it doesn't happen any longer, or anything like it, and what the OP describes is a teacher being careless rather than intentional sharing of all that information.

It's not meant to be on. As I said earlier, you can pull up the register forgetting or not realising the OHP is on.

Teacher needs to freeze their board before doing the register - quick email should sort it out.

Yep, I was FSM too in the early 80's. It was very much 1 queue for one, one queue for the other!

I'll always remember being given and extra dollop of green minty custard tho on my cake with an ahhh bless her...

Totally off topic, green custard, pink and chocolate? Was that just 80's?

I'll speak to DD in a bit before trying to resend the email. It's normal though in registration to get the picture shown at least, as it's their last year's school pic and she was constantly moaning about it.

Is it OHP's (I'm thinking in the projector sense) or would they be 'smart' white boards, so everything on teachers tablet is shown on screen.

I think I'm just showing my age now 🤣

It'll be a smart board, but the teacher can choose whether to display what's on their laptop/tablet screen or not.

Thank you, I would have assumed so.

Projector is linked to the smart board

DD home, symbols still being displayed - email still queued in outbox.

Oops might have sent it 3 times now!

What does queued in outbox mean? Do your emails not get sent automatically, that sounds very annoying

Yes normally they do and I've been sending emails all day.

My phone is warning of lack of storage, so I forwarded to same address, no joy.
However I'd attached the Bromcom pic (because the admin staff will have no clue what I am taking about IME).
Deleted pic and it sent no problems.

My email was pretty self explanatory, however, experience tells me different.

So there's a blue flag and you've assumed it's for PP because that's what they use in the example?

thats totally not on!! you're right to complain

Bromcom has a projector mode for registers - so teachers can display the register with just the kids names and no other identifying or personal info

Agree though it is poor form - hopefully it's a one off and the teacher just forgot to stop sharing her screen.

Even if the school use different symbols for different categories, which is likely, it still sets a child apart from others in the class who may have nothing against their name. The symbols stand out if they equate to the less common categories and others will be able to determine that they fall in to one of the categories that they may not want other people to know. It will be pretty obvious if it is something innocuous like 'house' as all children will have a symbol and they would be able to deduce this.

Definitely should not be available to anyone without a need to know. Even without a key, these things are easy to figure out.

they did this kind of thing 40 years ago with paperwork and leveled textbooks. The kids weren’t supposed to know the symbols, but we weren’t stupid, we were able to translate them almost immediately. People have to remember that the children and parents who might inadvertently view this information don’t do so in a vacuum. They have pieces of knowledge about various students just from day to day interactions. If you put that together with observing coded symbols, even without intending to interpret the symbols, your brain might do it anyway.

I've just asked DD if anybody had nothing against their name. She said no it's either a heart or a flag.

Therefore @hopeishere as said previously upthread a heart is one of the houses and a flag is just that - singling out, even if it's gifted and talented.

This would be (quite rightly) a disciplinary at our school. An accident is understandable once, if you haven't realise the board isn't frozen, but this sounds like it's being done in purpose.

I just wanted to add that DD didn't come home with updates on who has what symbol. As mentioned in OP whether it be SEN, FSM, PP it really doesn't worry us. What did worry me is that it is a data breach, especially for LAC, and nobody in the flag categories should be flagged at all!

Across many 1000s of classes who are using Bromcom, this is going to happen, even if your school realises and asks teachers to do the registers differently.

I'd be emailing Bromcom also - that info doesn't need to appear on the page where the register is marked. Try to get it fixed across the system!

We don’t want Bromcom to remove the flags, thanks. Currently, it’s the only way I can see who is SEND/PP etc which we use to create seating plans. It’s not yet up on the system elsewhere. It’s a lot quicker to find out info on new kids than to find the SEND register. Teachers should freeze boards when completing the register. Ours may also have an absence reason on there, so big data breach.

Surely your only gripe, and rightly so, should be with the blatant negligence in displaying students' private info on a smart screen. I don't quite get the need to analyse the different markers attributed to each student. They are there for a reason and it isn't to the detriment of learners.