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Breaking news: Liz Truss is the next PM

886 replies

ErmagerdtheQuern · 05/09/2022 12:44

God help us all.

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 05/09/2022 14:20

FreddyHG · 05/09/2022 14:10

People could choose a supplier who produces as a hedge. Bulb were always a rubbish choice because there is no upside to them of higher wholesale costs. There is more to choosing an energy supplier than raw price. The deal I am on is with British gas which as part of centrica is insulated well or can benefit from higher wholesale prices. This deal was available less than a year ago fixed for 3 years.

Whether you think people were stupid or even if it were possible to come up with some abstract standard to assess them is neither here nor there. It's pure self-indulgence to imagine that millions being unable to pay their spiralling energy bills could somehow be not the state's problem.

You're talking about the society you wish you lived in, not the one you do. Don't make the mistake of confusing your own ideological take with reality.

83DanishMum · 05/09/2022 14:20

@PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior you are right but it might be out of his hands - a lot depends on the outcome of the Privileges committee inquiry into his misleading Parliament, which could result in a by-election. I suspect the good people of Uxbridge would kick him out given the chance.

PolarPolly27 · 05/09/2022 14:20

vera99 · 05/09/2022 13:56

This autumn there will be massive street demonstrations like the Poll Tax in the 90s where anger will spill out onto the streets coalescing around the Enough is Enough campaign amongst many others.

There really won't.

neverbeenskiing · 05/09/2022 14:20

83DanishMum · 05/09/2022 14:08

She has not even had chance to sort out a cabinet until tomorrow and not official been put in place by the queen yet. Typical MN Woke lefty's all rabidly banging crap out on their keyboards wildly as she is not a labor leader

On the contrary, she's appointed her cabinet already and they've been in conversion for the last fortnight. The visit to the queen is merely a formality.

What exactly are "Woke lefty's" [sic] and why do they have Rabies?

They must have caught it from all those woke rabbits that are hopping around. I hear 'loosing' your ability to form a coherent sentence is one of the first symptoms of rabies.

Aww look at all the rabbit woke lefty looser`s quoting me, its just a shame that a majority does not agree with any of you do they! That is obvious as labour never seem to get in power

Booklover3 · 05/09/2022 14:21

PolarPolly27 · 05/09/2022 14:20

There really won't.

There really ought to be

vera99 · 05/09/2022 14:21

@MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake best one-word answer this thread.
@Nancydrawn sheer poetry of the damned.

👏👏👏👏

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 05/09/2022 14:22

83DanishMum · 05/09/2022 14:20

@PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior you are right but it might be out of his hands - a lot depends on the outcome of the Privileges committee inquiry into his misleading Parliament, which could result in a by-election. I suspect the good people of Uxbridge would kick him out given the chance.

Yes agreed, although if he survives the committee enquiry and did somehow manage to worm his way back into office before the next GE I expect a safe seat would be found. If he doesn't then I also wouldn't be surprised to see him step down then, rather than face the realistic possibility of losing his seat.

Ineedwinenow · 05/09/2022 14:23

This is a genuine question but there’s lots of comments on here saying there lots of better MPs out there who could have had the job so who would you have picked and why? I sadly no nothing much about Liz so can’t comment either way but a lot of you have very strong negative views ( either rightly or wrongly) so who would be better

Fladdermus · 05/09/2022 14:23

Liz Truss is Boris Johnson without the charisma. Another who'll go wherever way the winds of populism blow. Another immoral blonde haired liar at the helm. Just what the country needs.

stopitstopitnow · 05/09/2022 14:23

4 PM's in 6 years...anyone know what the world record is for the most PM's in that time? We've got to be close surely.

Doubleraspberry · 05/09/2022 14:23

neverbeenskiing · 05/09/2022 14:20

They must have caught it from all those woke rabbits that are hopping around. I hear 'loosing' your ability to form a coherent sentence is one of the first symptoms of rabies.

Aww look at all the rabbit woke lefty looser`s quoting me, its just a shame that a majority does not agree with any of you do they! That is obvious as labour never seem to get in power

It’s losing.

If this is the standard of political debate you think best represents your political views, then please carry on. You’re saying more than you think.

Softplayhooray · 05/09/2022 14:24

Lucidas · 05/09/2022 12:46

Wonderful

I don't know what the hell that weird and creepy picture you used in your post is, but it's summed up my feelings about the situation perfectly 😩

the80sweregreat · 05/09/2022 14:24

Rishi sunak would have been better than LT
He knew what he was talking about

CapMarvel · 05/09/2022 14:24

shootfromthehip145 · 05/09/2022 13:55

All those claiming to know what Liz is going to do are talking out of their back sides.

She has not even had chance to sort out a cabinet until tomorrow and not official been put in place by the queen yet. Typical MN Woke lefty's all rabidly banging crap out on their keyboards wildly as she is not a labor leader.

Never read as much completer and utter shit as posted in this thread 😂

You know she's been a politician for a while, right?

It's plainly obvious from her track record that she is completely unfit to lead a lunch queue, let alone the UK.

Doubleraspberry · 05/09/2022 14:25

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 05/09/2022 14:22

Yes agreed, although if he survives the committee enquiry and did somehow manage to worm his way back into office before the next GE I expect a safe seat would be found. If he doesn't then I also wouldn't be surprised to see him step down then, rather than face the realistic possibility of losing his seat.

I think there’s no way at all he’d be re-elected in Uxbridge, leader or not. But it’s hard to project an air of confidence in your party and its ability to win and govern while simultaneously doing something that suggests you are that vulnerable. It would be a really hard call.

Livinginanotherworld · 05/09/2022 14:25

balabears · 05/09/2022 12:47

Well done, Liz! Our third female PM.

And look where they all got us 🤦‍♀️

Tillsforthrills · 05/09/2022 14:26

The only positive is that she’s a woman and that no white males hold major office.

But that’s literally it.

UnnecessaryFennel · 05/09/2022 14:29

From Billy Bunter to Philomena Cunk.

Truly, we are blessed.

MercurialMonday · 05/09/2022 14:29

stopitstopitnow · 05/09/2022 14:23

4 PM's in 6 years...anyone know what the world record is for the most PM's in that time? We've got to be close surely.

Be hard to beat Italy -

Since the end of World War II in 1945, Italy has had 69 governments, at an average of one every 1.11 years.

Politics of Italy

prime ministers of Italy

But I do agree it's worrying.

vera99 · 05/09/2022 14:29

So living next door to Kwasi with his wife and 2-year baby. Imagine that thread on Mumsnet with the personalities taken out of it.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6957107/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Amber-Rudds-ex-Kwasi-Kwarteng-marry-City-lawyer-Harriet-Edwards.html

Notonthestairs · 05/09/2022 14:31

@hamustro

"It 100% sounds like something JRM would be interested in but I thought I'd read that KK was against reducing workers' rights, though of course his opinions on this could have changed."

Article on a review of existing employment protections from the Sunday Times yesterday -

"The policy is expected to be led by Jacob Rees-Mogg, who is being lined up by Truss to become business secretary. It is also understood to be backed by Kwasi Kwarteng, who is expected to become chancellor. He backed away from similar reforms last year when he was business secretary."

"Changes to the labour laws proposed last year were rapidly dropped by Kwarteng after a leak, which angered unions and had muted support from business. One Conservative source said that Boris Johnson vetoed the plans because they would have gone against his pledge in the Brexit referendum not to strip workers of rights, but that Truss was not bound by such pledges."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/truss-eyes-bonfire-of-workers-rights-to-boost-economy-3dmpf0gfg

Wheelyweddingwipedout · 05/09/2022 14:33

Looking forward to HIGNFY on Friday

Breaking news: Liz Truss is the next PM
Livinginanotherworld · 05/09/2022 14:33

hamdden12 · 05/09/2022 12:56

Because this is MN and you have to bash the tories at every given opportunity, labour are the political party of MN and no other party will be tolerated.

As a labour supporter of many many years I will never vote for them again whilst Kier Starmer and his cronies are there. After 12 years of Tory shite…I despair for all of our futures. There isn’t even a viable alternative if we are lucky enough to get a GE next year.

reesewithoutaspoon · 05/09/2022 14:33

Livinginanotherworld · 05/09/2022 14:25

And look where they all got us 🤦‍♀️

What's your point? As much as I hated Thatcher and her policies she did her job. May was handed a poisoned chalice over Brexit and hampered at every turn by her own party and Truss has taken the wheel when we are experiencing the worst cost of living crisis for a long while. not exactly taken their roles during good times have they?
In the meantime, we have had 52 male prime ministers. If you're somehow trying to make out that female PMs are rubbish, then please explain why that doesn't apply to male PMs when they screw up.

vera99 · 05/09/2022 14:36

In a world where I would welcome Thatcher and May over the last 2 is truly a world gone mad or maybe it's just me. 😮