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To not ‘get’ people watchers?

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Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 18:08

Everywhere I go there are tons of ‘people watchers’ who sit on benches and have their eyes glued to people/families and have no shame in being caught looking. usually I ignore it and keep to myself but it happens so often that I’m starting to question what these people gain in being nosey. There’s nothing about me that would cause wandering eyes to focus on me, I’m just an average person minding my business!


Went for a nice day at the beach before dc go back to school on Monday, sitting on a wall eating lunch and happen to look up at a lone woman watching our every movement from the sand. Found it very uncomfortable so we moved. She then seemed to have moved on to watch another family as we walked past and looked over.

now don’t get me wrong I know there are people that will think ‘how lovely a family enjoying their day’ to watch children play with fond memories of their own, and watching the busy rush of a town/city without focusing on a specific person, but I’m talking about those who intentionally sit and stare for fun with no realisation it may make some feel uncomfortable as they don’t want to be watched by strangers.

i have a friend who purposely goes to a specific cafe every morning to watch people from the window. She puts on social media things like ‘people watching from x if anyone wants to join’. She can’t explain why she does it when I asked. She’s had people approach her to argue about it and some people telling her to look away, from inside the cafe. sometimes she brings her mum and they make a morning of it. Is it loneliness? Boredom? I couldn’t think of anything more pointless than watching a family sit together/eat/walk/talk.

is there anyone here who does it? If so can I ask why? Genuinely trying to understand why it’s so common and enjoyed by so many!

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 02/09/2022 19:31

Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 19:05

im glad some of you see what I do in that it seems intrusive and odd. I certainly don’t mean the passing glance or a quick smile at an old lady, I mean people who specifically sit and focus on a person or a few then turn their focus to another family and so on. Watching the world go by isn’t the same thing as that often means taking in the weather, sounds etc not intruding on specific peoples’ personal space.
for those that do it what would be your reaction if you were approached and told to stop looking (or similar)?

I'd ask them how they were so sure I was watching them if they weren't watching me

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Lesserspotteddogfish · 02/09/2022 19:36

People watching doesn’t appeal. I do however like to watch dogs having a ball on the beach and seagulls doing their thing and try and imagine what it must be like to be them.

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Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 19:40

It depends on the person, I’m very good at ‘feeling’ when I have eyes on me and will naturally look up to see who is looking.

If a person has felt/seen you look that many times that they feel uncomfortable wouldn’t you feel you’ve gone over board and it’s no longer people watching but creepily staring at that person?

So shoe on the other foot, if you were minding your own business and felt a person watching you despite thinking they were discrete and it began to make you feel uncomfortable, would you expect them to stop once noticed or would you be okay with them continuing their people watching of you specifically?

Its interesting to read a mix of opinions on it, and I can totally see now why in a new place it would be fun to look at the locals/culture (depending where is) it just seems dull as dish water to me and like PP I’d rather read a book than watch Bob check his watch at the train station!

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Vallmo47 · 02/09/2022 19:40

Aww, my fondest memories when mum was alive and I was a little girl was sitting on a park bench with an ice cream in blissful silence just watching the world go by. I understand there are creepy people out there OP but the majority aren’t. In fact sometimes I sit down on a bench alone just to remember my mum. She loved just watching the world go by, watching kids play and remember her own loved ones who passed.
What I cannot stand is everyone constantly walking around with their noses down checking their phones and nearly behind run over as a result.

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Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 19:42

I agree Vall, I hate the new zombie nation of everyone looking at their phones whilst walking into roads and other people.

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 02/09/2022 19:43

Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 19:40

It depends on the person, I’m very good at ‘feeling’ when I have eyes on me and will naturally look up to see who is looking.

If a person has felt/seen you look that many times that they feel uncomfortable wouldn’t you feel you’ve gone over board and it’s no longer people watching but creepily staring at that person?

So shoe on the other foot, if you were minding your own business and felt a person watching you despite thinking they were discrete and it began to make you feel uncomfortable, would you expect them to stop once noticed or would you be okay with them continuing their people watching of you specifically?

Its interesting to read a mix of opinions on it, and I can totally see now why in a new place it would be fun to look at the locals/culture (depending where is) it just seems dull as dish water to me and like PP I’d rather read a book than watch Bob check his watch at the train station!

No one can feel someone watching them

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5128gap · 02/09/2022 19:44

I think if you don't do it to some extent you're in a minority. Looking at each other is an important way of learning about the world and social norms. From noting the type of clothes people wear, to how they conduct themselves, we're absorbing all sorts of messages about what's appropriate, what we like, what we don't, what we want to emulate or to avoid doing.

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XenoBitch · 02/09/2022 19:47

Were you the same OP who posted a similar thread in chat... telling people to stop staring and "read a book instead"? Oh, and tried to police what people were thinking when some posters said they like to make up stories for the people they see pass them by.

I love people watching, and I do like to make up stories about the people I see too.

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DWMoosmum · 02/09/2022 19:48

God, I love people watching. That's not to say I sit and manically stare at people, I just casually observe. I observe what people wear, admiring outfits, I often tell people I like what they're wearing or ask where they got their top/coat etc.

I'm a mum to two young kids and smile at young families with kids because its nice to see.

Everyone, to some extent, people watches, otherwise no one would ever take inspiration from anything.

Lighten up a bit, you might enjoy a bit of quiet observation.

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Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 19:53

No not me I’m a new member so I haven’t read many threads or posted much here. I’m not that rude to suggest people read a book instead! Just curious why people love doing it so much and many have answered with their reasons now. I’m guessing it’s an escape from the individuals current life to look about at others lives and goings on which makes a lot of sense with the depressing way the world is now.

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ManateeFair · 02/09/2022 19:58

people I know admit to doing it

Once again: because people admit to ‘people watching’ that doesn’t mean they stare at individuals for ages. I think you’re taking the word ‘watching’ too literally here.

As for ‘Why would people be interested in strangers’ - would you not agree that most of us have a natural curiosity and interest in the world around us? It’s just a simple thing that sparks the imagination - almost like a creative writing prompt, really.

Also, you said you were watching seagulls at the beach - is observing the behaviour of birds really very different to observing the behaviour of people? I do both those things, and I don’t think they’re that different! And you’re here on Mumsnet AIBU so presumably you read posts about the lives of strangers and have a passing interest in them.

If it wasn’t natural to be interested in people and their lives, we wouldn’t read fiction or watch drama or people-focused documentaries.

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Plantstrees · 02/09/2022 20:00

Lesserspotteddogfish · 02/09/2022 19:36

People watching doesn’t appeal. I do however like to watch dogs having a ball on the beach and seagulls doing their thing and try and imagine what it must be like to be them.

I also love watching the seagulls. Have you read Jonathan Livingston Seagull - I always think about it when I see them at the beach.

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miserablecat · 02/09/2022 20:02

I quite like dog watching on the beach - dogs going a bit crazy - I don't even like dogs that much! 😃 obviously i don't specifically go to watch them though. Sometimes I might notice some cute kids or one day we were all entertained for a few minutes, (teen DD noticed them first) ķby a group attempting to play rounders/cricket on the beach and none of them made contact with the ball. We had the idea that it was the young fit looking blokes idea and he was persuading older (not v sporty looking) people to play but it was more amusing that Mr fit guy couldn't do it either!

I remember going to a beach when my DD was 3 and it was just before the school holidays, and the beach was pretty busy with families all with toddlers/pre-school age kids. There was one lone guy sitting watching everyone for ages. He didn't have a phone, or book, or newspaper, and just seemed to be watching everyone else. It made me feel a bit uncomfortable tbh but I don't know if men are judged more harshly.

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Ohpaella · 02/09/2022 20:04

Well when I’m tired and thinking of other stuff waiting for a train or sitting down a minute I’m sure I look starey but I’m off in my own world. Also short sighted people look like they are staring at you but probably aren’t. I mean most people are glancing about at the world or maybe you like like a supermodel. 😛

I get stared at due to a funny gait due to injury which sometimes pisses me off but it’s just the way people are, usually it’s just a quick glance anyway. Don’t you have to be staring to notice all these eyes on you?

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Mummadeze · 02/09/2022 20:15

I feel a bit worried now, as I realise I have been staring at families with young children in and around the hotel pool this week on holiday myself. I just find little children so cute and funny, it is hard to take my eyes off them. My DD is 13 now and I miss the toddler times when she was carefree and happy. I really hope I haven’t made anyone feel uncomfortable. But I also spent quite some time watching two blonde girls trying to flirt and cop off with the Turkish head of entertainment at the hotel one evening. I kept trying not to stare but it was quite fascinating to see if he was interested or not (I came to the conclusion he loved himself more than them in the end). I don’t really know why. My DD is pretty quiet and not too chatty so I suppose it was just a way of passing the time and not getting bored during the fairly rubbish entertainment. I studied psychology at University so I find people’s behaviour interesting in general. Will try harder not to be too creepy though in terms of staring, it really hadn’t occurred to me that people would realise or care until your post!

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Arnaquer · 02/09/2022 20:39

VirginiaWool · 02/09/2022 18:33

I only watch people when I'm paid to do so. I also covertly film them.

There are a few hundred of us who do this. It's part of a project.

We didn't realise what we were signing up to when we agreed to it. Now there is no way out.

That woman you saw, she was probably one of us. She has no choice now. None of us do.

This post will self destruct at a set point in time. But if you've seen it, you now know the truth.

Shhh don't tell everyone

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Arnaquer · 02/09/2022 20:41

Surely you were watching her to notice she was looking at you?

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EmmaH2022 · 02/09/2022 20:46

Mummadeze "I studied psychology at University so I find people’s behaviour interesting in general. Will try harder not to be too creepy though in terms of staring, it really hadn’t occurred to me that people would realise or care until your post!"

the ones who studied are the worst. If you call them out, they "explain" weird shit to you. And the world seems obsessed with psychology now. So people are getting more weird and I find myself thinking I should know more.

you can always get a vibe when people are staring.

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balalake · 02/09/2022 20:46

It's not for me, but just aimlessly looking out at people walking past and musing about what they might be doing seems harmless. Gawping/staring at someone for a period of time is different entirely, which is what I think the OP was referring to and agree is unacceptable and rude.

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thefamous5 · 02/09/2022 21:13

If someone told me to stop looking at them I would point out that they must be looking at me to notice me looking at them.

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EmmaH2022 · 02/09/2022 21:17

thefamous5 · 02/09/2022 21:13

If someone told me to stop looking at them I would point out that they must be looking at me to notice me looking at them.

Nope, sometimes you sense someone is looking at you, even with my eyes closed on the Tube. And you glare, they keep gazing...very annoying. Sometimes they are about to sell you religion as well.

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BadGranny · 02/09/2022 21:19

Think of me as an amateur ethnographer. I love people watching. There are few things in life that are as interesting as watching people and their interaction in a public place, and it’s free entertainment. If you’re in a private location, or you are being followed, I can see it might be an issue, but if I’m sat on a park bench when you are in the park, then it’s perfectly reasonable for me to watch you. If you don’t like it, move away from me. I’m not interested in you personally, just as one example of the fascinating human race.

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girlfriend44 · 02/09/2022 21:20

Desertdweller8 · 02/09/2022 18:42

It’s not a nasty post, I’m curious why anyone wants to or cares what strangers are doing!
I was watching seagulls and the waves, that’s how I happened to notice her watching us. Even after awkward eye contact she continued. Generally I’m more focused on my dc and what I’m doing than strangers around me, I can’t say I look at anyone purposely or find their lives fascinating.

not sure what you meant by that kanaloa but it sounds offensive.

Virginiawool are you a government spy 😁

Why didn't one of you say hello and enjoy a few pleasantries it wouldn't have been awkward then

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gyurghle · 02/09/2022 21:29

I love people watching but that doesn't involve staring at particular individuals.

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TheHateIsNotGood · 02/09/2022 21:33

so ‘thehatels’ you mean if someone was uncomfortable at you staring at them and asked you to stop you would laugh? How do you know they haven’t got learning difficulties or scared of your intentions and you’re causing them mental distress? Doesn’t sound like people watching to me, sounds like borderline harassment/stalking.

OP - context is everything and I did state any 'mental impairment' as part of my original post for an example of reasons not to laugh at you.

I also like Sky Watching, Birds, Boats, Ants and watching/looking at other things too so there is a very good chance that you are in the way of what I'm really looking at. But generally I can blur you out of my vision.

So if you came striding up to me demanding I don't look at you - yes, I would very likely laugh, maybe not even at you, but the 'circumstance' as it is funny.

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