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To think that home schooling is a bit cult like?

358 replies

WobblyWellies · 30/08/2022 00:27

This is purely anecdotal but based on a group of friends who are all home schooling now, it makes me feel like there is a cult like element to it. There's definitely a click amongst the mums. One of my friends in the group has changed quite a bit since she started home schooling. She's almost become a bit militant about the whole thing. She often posts things on social media about how terrible schools are for children and how home schooling is much better. I feel like she's stirring things up. I am in fact a teacher but I don't push school on people I meet or social media, it's totally individual choice how you want your child educated. I'm not sure if my friend is out to convert people.

However, I do see homeschooling as a privilege to a certain extent because it relies on a parent not working (or part time) and is self funded for the majority. My friend has a house with acres of land and woods, she does loads of outdoor learning with her kids which is great but I wouldn't say it's the norm to have that.

So this group of friends are very clicky over homeschooling and it feels like a them and us scenario now.

Aibu to say it's like a cult for some people?

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MiddleOfHere · 30/08/2022 23:10

Helenahandcartt · 30/08/2022 22:05

When I was younger the school bully types who disliked foreigners @MiddleOfHere bothered me. Now the ‘aw’ is comical, we’ve all grown up. Remember that.

I liked school (the actual learning bit and much of the socialisation) but the racist bullying was pretty relentless.
My best friend was bullied on a daily basis, for example.
It was white middle class church school. You could count African and African descent and Asians all on one hand.

(The "aw" wasn't supposed to be comical, btw... so apologies if I've said the wrong thing)

Helenahandcartt · 30/08/2022 23:13

MiddleOfHere · 30/08/2022 23:10

I liked school (the actual learning bit and much of the socialisation) but the racist bullying was pretty relentless.
My best friend was bullied on a daily basis, for example.
It was white middle class church school. You could count African and African descent and Asians all on one hand.

(The "aw" wasn't supposed to be comical, btw... so apologies if I've said the wrong thing)

Apologies if I took it incorrectly

I entered the UK as an older child and it was difficult to slot in. Sensitive and plus, right now, a half bottle of wine

Gracelynn · 30/08/2022 23:35

School is very often a great way to meet people from a wide range of backgrounds and views, athough not always.

However it's not the only way. Our home educated children meet a wide range of people. From retierd neighbours, neighbourhood kids, (we live in an area of social housing, but in a otherwise middle class village so quite a range of people interms of social economic background), church goers in two different denominations, people in sports clubs, international students we invite for meals, some of my husband's co workers and my previous co workers, children in two very different home education groups, people they do vollenteer work alongside, people at youth camps, they go sailing with a family freind and know people at the sailing club.

My oldest daughter has been entering the world of work and grown up life and seems to be doing well enough with coworkers and customer service so far.

RampantIvy · 30/08/2022 23:40

DD went to Rainbows, Brownies and Guides. Disappointingly, all the girls stayed in cliques with girls from their own schools and didn't mix or make friends with girls from other schools. DD wanted to mix more, but it didn't happen.

Gagaandgag · 31/08/2022 00:00

DanielTheGhostGangbanger · 30/08/2022 04:37

For those who commented that home educating families are a bit "cliquey" and don't integrate particularly with school parents, and wonder why this might be....just read through this thread.

The judgement and assumption is oozing through the comments. The utter insistence that children can ONLY learn certain things through school is utterly ridiculous. Apparently if I home educate my children I'm either anxious, a conspiracy theorist or a right wing fanatic.

My DC went to school until they were 10, Y5. Lockdown occurred. We all realised how much more peaceful life was at home, and how much they preferred learning in a different style. I loved the experience of educating them and they were very keen not to return to school So we deregistered.

Incidentally, I work full time too. I'm self employed so I can flex my hours around the DC. I work very late at night frequently, but it's worth it.

Home educated families in this country are absolutely persecuted in some counties. Other counties are bloody wonderful in supporting families to make the best choices, even if that means home ed. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor am I against school. I was a school governor for many years; there are lots of wonderful schools and teachers. Some children thrive in school and are utterly miserable in a home ed set-up. Others do better in a home ed structure.

In this country we are all brought up not to question school as the "right" place for children to learn. But this isn't always the case. Most of us don't ever question it because it's not easy to accommodate. If I was still employed, I certainly couldn't. I'm extremely fortunate to have the choice. And it took a global pandemic and everyday life changing for me to step back and think, hold on, this works so much better.

The home ed community all have a massive eye roll at the comments re socialisation etc because they're so far away from reality, it's ridiculous. And as for safeguarding, only a tiny, tiny percentage of children who are abused are home educated. Most attend school. Contrary to popular belief we are very tightly monitored. I have to provide reports to my local authority showing exactly what I'm doing, and what progress my children are making. We're not given free rein to do fuck all.

The home ed community is frequently ostracised, mocked or just roundly criticised because we're opting for a different path. There are many, many examples of home ed children who have gone on to have wonderful careers, and are confident, successful individuals. Some children are home educated due to bullying or SEN. So all the anecdotes about children who were home educated lacking social skills etc, maybe have a think about what their journey has been, and why they might have turned to home education in the first place. Not all problems stem from home ed - many children go through hell before their parents pull them out of school.

I knew I'd hate reading this thread, and I was right. It's just bloody frustrating. So many ignorant people just being rude about something they know nothing about. Also, the term you're looking for is home education. Home schooling is what's done when a child is off school long term sick etc. We aren't a school nor do we seek to replicate it. Hence home education, not home school.

Here here!! Thank you for saying what I think!
Just such a judgemental thread with a disrespectful title.

Catclown · 31/08/2022 01:46

I have 3 DCs all have been to school. My eldest has just left year 11. Youngest ds has a health condition and attends school.

My middle Ds is 15 and has always really struggled with school, he is asd with pda profile. He couldn't cope and struggled with the whole of school, he didn't form meaningful friendships and was always in trouble and being punished while not understanding or shall we say not learning from the endless detentions and isolation time. We had battles every day and school refusal and dire attendance and days when he did not attend any lessons even while in school due to being sent out of lessons and spending most of the day wondering the corridors.

I removed him in year 8, before covid. He was doing great but then when all 3 dcs were at home during covid he struggled again, trying to work with others. The scratching of the pen on paper, the turning of pages in a book, the clicking of the keys on the laptop, the breathing too loudly, you get the idea!

He then suddenly decided that he wanted to return to school last sept. I fully supported his decision. He lasted until jan and was in full on autistic burnout. He couldn't conform to the rules and regulations that he thought were 'stupid and didn't make sense'

Now at home again hes has grown and developed into a great character, he has a really good best friend, hes the most social he has ever been in his life. He even has a little Saturday job (his choice) and is doing brilliant by not worrying about the constraints of school.

I am not against school and home education would not suit my other 2 dcs but for him it is the only option. The square peg round hole analogy is perfect at describing the situation. I would let him return to school if he wanted and I am definitely not in any kind of cult. He knows about different cultures and preferences and is accepting of all people which is something I work hard with him on.

I'm not bothered that he wont get 96 gcses at grade 9s as we are only concerned with maths and English gcses and the rest of his education is focused on the things he wants to learn about and at times he is able to. I cant see him working for anyone anyway so he will likely do something for himself with his own rules and timetable.

Home education is a lifesaving option for some people and I firmly believe his mental health would have suffered greatly if forced to attend school. I think we are lucky we can choose the right form of education for our own children, as we know them best and their strengths and weaknesses and in a class of 30 + children and moving class to multiple different teachers in a day means the teachers cant possibly know whats best for all children.

Traditional school works well for some children, home education works better for others, even within the same family and it is as simple as that.

Omg sooooo long, sorry but thanks for reading if you made it to the end!!

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