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Mark Feehily wants surrogacy to be cheaper and accessible for everyone

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Wouldloveanother · 24/08/2022 19:34

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11141771/Westlifes-Mark-Feehily-discusses-privileged-expensive-surrogacy-journey-welcome-daughter.html

Why are men so entitled?

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JulesJules · 24/08/2022 19:59

The commodification of women's bodies for the benefit of men. He can FOTTFSOF.

JacquelineCarlyle · 24/08/2022 20:00

Surrogacy is abhorrent. Should be banned completely.

Under his eye.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 24/08/2022 20:00

I think currently in this country the birth mother automatically has Parental Responsibility and they can’t relinquish this right until at least 6 weeks (correct me if I am wrong). I hope this doesn’t change as I think this is an important safeguard for women and infants.

surrogacy is a practice based on the wants of wealth adults and not the needs of infants.

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 24/08/2022 20:01

Does he not specify how much he thinks buying another human should cost, what is the Recommended Retail Price of a human infant? What a revolting entitled man 🤬

TwoNightStand · 24/08/2022 20:02

Come on women, rent out your wombs for cheaper, you’re too expensive! The fact he made a lot of money being in a boyband and now wants poor women to do this difficult thing for next to nothing. Unbelievable.

AlohaMolly · 24/08/2022 20:03

At the risk of sounding a bit tin foil hat, I think we will start to see more articles like this. Population decline and the effect on economics is a concern for governments across the world, so pushing for cheaper surrogate mothers and making it the norm is worth their while, as is trying to remove abortion rights.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 24/08/2022 20:03

I'm not surprised considering many women think surrogacy is a legitimate decently paid deed, a fair trade without exploitation.

Why would men understand the impact on less fortunate women when women don't see the problem.

BlusteryLake · 24/08/2022 20:05

Eurgh. I can't stand attitudes like his. Having a child is a privilege not a right.

goldsparklyChocolate · 24/08/2022 20:05

eatyourcrustspls · 24/08/2022 19:49

I was just about to comment similar.

Baby ripped away from all they know.

I don't agree with surrogacy at all.

I don’t understand the stance on MN

If it’s about abortion then a baby doesn’t exist as a person before birth yet if it’s about surrogacy we hear how a just born baby is being taken away from all it knows ? So is the baby a person before birth or not ? Because if you’re saying there’s somehow damage to a newborn infant like it has some kind of feeling/attachment to its mother before birth then why on the other hand if we are discussing abortion is the baby nothing till it takes it’s first breath ?

SquirrelSoShiny · 24/08/2022 20:06

He's revolting.

I used to be quite #BeKind about surrogacy. I know too much about it now to ever think that again.

CandyLeBonBon · 24/08/2022 20:07

Because if you’re saying there’s somehow damage to a newborn infant like it has some kind of feeling/attachment to its mother before birth then why on the other hand if we are discussing abortion is the baby nothing till it takes it’s first breath ?

You know there's a big difference between a 6-8 week old foetus and a newborn baby right?

SolasAnla · 24/08/2022 20:07

Its a commercialised trade as a result of medical advances.
Yet from bible times to now the child was seen as tradable and the mother seen as a mere vessel.

UnboxedThoughts · 24/08/2022 20:07

The common thread between abortion and surrogacy is the control and use of women's bodies.

Stop derailing this conversation.

goldsparklyChocolate · 24/08/2022 20:09

CandyLeBonBon · 24/08/2022 20:07

Because if you’re saying there’s somehow damage to a newborn infant like it has some kind of feeling/attachment to its mother before birth then why on the other hand if we are discussing abortion is the baby nothing till it takes it’s first breath ?

You know there's a big difference between a 6-8 week old foetus and a newborn baby right?

But abortions aren’t always done at 6-8 weeks ?

Im just interested and intrigued by how the two subjects are presented as it just seems contradictory

Wouldloveanother · 24/08/2022 20:09

What makes me so angry is his ‘views’ will be fawned over and go unchallenged on broadcasting channels because #bekind and people not wanting to look homophobic.

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goldsparklyChocolate · 24/08/2022 20:10

UnboxedThoughts · 24/08/2022 20:07

The common thread between abortion and surrogacy is the control and use of women's bodies.

Stop derailing this conversation.

I’m allowed to say whatever I want. It just made me think that the level of consciousness applied to a newborn in two different scenarios is vastly different and it interests me to know why.

Stop policing other peoples comments I’m not derailing I’m just asking

CandyLeBonBon · 24/08/2022 20:10

I take it you don't have children @goldsparklyChocolate

EmeraldShamrock1 · 24/08/2022 20:11

It's like the joke only it isn't funny.
"How many women does it take to create a surrogate baby".
If it is a guaranteed baby deal?
I wonder how many young women are harvested when using donor eggs with a separate host/birth-giver throughout the process.

JohnsShirt · 24/08/2022 20:11

I hate surrogacy, and particularly commercial surrogacy, it's disgusting.
Using women and buying babies, him and that horrid Tom Daley can fuck right off.

stode · 24/08/2022 20:13

I read on here once that surrogacy is like intentionally creating an orphan, which has always stuck with me.

We don't know enough long-term about attachment disorders yet for it to be remotely acceptable to take a newborn from its mother.

Beamur · 24/08/2022 20:13

I find these articles utterly tone deaf and make me much less sympathetic to gay men wanting to buy babies. Zero consideration for the potential risk and damage to another person to fulfill his wishes. Only a lament about how expensive it was..

Wouldloveanother · 24/08/2022 20:13

Because @goldsparklyChocolate :

  1. in the very rare cases of late term abortion (where the baby is viable should it be born), it’s often due to complex or serious disabilities. So the mother’s are ‘considering the feelings’ of the baby in not wanting it to suffer
  2. An aborted baby has an injection to stop the heart, so it won’t live without it’s mother per se.
  3. This baby girl will now go through her life with no mother. Which will be painful and confusing for her
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goldsparklyChocolate · 24/08/2022 20:14

I just want to understand how we can say this child will be affected by being taken from all it knows- from its mother - and that it’s wrong and not ok but then if we talk about late term abortion it’s very much the baby knows nothing it’s not capable of any feelings nothing at all.

Im not actually comfortable at all with surrogacy and I’m pro choice - I’m not here with any kind of agenda I just read the thread and it caught my attention how many attribute these feelings and awareness to a newborn in this situation

ParvuliThankYouDebbie · 24/08/2022 20:14

Actually, maybe he’s on to something. Maybe it should be made so cheap, including no expenses, by law, so that no women have to actually consider doing it purely because they need the money. Then it would just be those women who want to do it for altruistic reasons, or, of course, rich women. Sounds like a good idea.

Wouldloveanother · 24/08/2022 20:15

ParvuliThankYouDebbie · 24/08/2022 20:14

Actually, maybe he’s on to something. Maybe it should be made so cheap, including no expenses, by law, so that no women have to actually consider doing it purely because they need the money. Then it would just be those women who want to do it for altruistic reasons, or, of course, rich women. Sounds like a good idea.

I see what you’re saying but then it leaves it open to emotional blackmail. Let’s ban it altogether, and streamline and improve the adoption process.

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