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Who is being unreasonable here?

114 replies

Telivania · 24/08/2022 16:31

Kitchen area has had some work done. 2 tradesmen were in the house working on it for a whole day. Obviously they had breaks in between (went for lunch, etc).

Person A and Person B are married and live together. A was the one at home while the tradies were in, while B was out at work.

A told them they were welcome to make their own drinks (tea, coffee, etc), but wouldn't personally be serving them anything.

B thinks A was rude and had no manners, as making drinks and food for tradies is basic hospitality and costs nothing.

A insists it's not about the cost, but about the principle. A refuses to act as a 'servant' to random men who are simply doing their job (and being paid a lot of money for it).

B still disagrees and thinks A was being disrespectful.

Who is BU?

OP posts:
Talipesmum · 24/08/2022 18:23

Talipesmum · 24/08/2022 16:33

B is unreasonable. They were literally in the kitchen. Easy to make drinks for themselves. “Help yourself” is fine.

To add though - if A literally said “I won’t personally be serving you anything” then that is rude. It’s fine to say “please help yourself” and show them where things are. Not fine to say “I won’t personally be serving you anything” - that’s really chippy and weird.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/08/2022 18:28

I think A is a woman making a point that she's not there to make drinks for men

Telivania · 24/08/2022 18:40

orbitalcrisis · 24/08/2022 18:22

A is unreasonable. It was fine to tell them to help themselves, it was rude to then say they wouldn't be doing it for them. They also should have at least made the first one and offered if they were making one after that.

"it was rude to then say they wouldn't be doing it for them"

This wasn't directly said. Also everything was placed in the same cupboard for easy access, which was shown to them.

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girlmom21 · 24/08/2022 18:43

If you told them to help themselves it's fine.

If you said "because I won't be serving you" you're rude.

Georgeskitchen · 24/08/2022 18:45

Pointless argument really. It's making a cup of tea not on your knees polishing their boots
Get a grip!!

crabbyoldbat · 24/08/2022 18:46

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/08/2022 18:28

I think A is a woman making a point that she's not there to make drinks for men

And quite right, too.

Do you have someone who makes all your drinks on demand while you're in work? If so, you're privileged (unless, of course, you pay them precisely for that task)

Whataretheodds · 24/08/2022 18:48

chillipenguin · 24/08/2022 16:37

A told them they were welcome to make their own drinks (tea, coffee, etc), but wouldn't personally be serving them anything. did A actually say this?! If A had just said help yourself to drinks whenever you like that would have been find didn't need to go on about it.

Exactly this

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/08/2022 18:49

crabbyoldbat · 24/08/2022 18:46

And quite right, too.

Do you have someone who makes all your drinks on demand while you're in work? If so, you're privileged (unless, of course, you pay them precisely for that task)

I'm not saying for a minute that she should. But stop all this A and B rubbish and tell it like it is. And be a bit more polite to the people in your house.
There's the tea and coffee etc just help yourself whenever you're ready.

It's a non issue

Macaroni1924 · 24/08/2022 18:49

A is rude! I’d personally have offered/made them something. I may on this occasion, purely because it was in the kitchen have set up a little station and said I’ve left this here for you to help yourselves so I don’t get in your way. It’s part of having tradesmen round to offer hospitality.

Brigante9 · 24/08/2022 19:00

I normally leave tradesmen to crack on and have a drink when they want one rather than dictate timings to them.

Duettino · 24/08/2022 19:02

A good tradie brings their own kettle and doesn't bother anyone else when they want a drink!

I offer the first to be polite.

A is correct.

Telivania · 24/08/2022 19:11

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/08/2022 18:49

I'm not saying for a minute that she should. But stop all this A and B rubbish and tell it like it is. And be a bit more polite to the people in your house.
There's the tea and coffee etc just help yourself whenever you're ready.

It's a non issue

"And be a bit more polite to the people in your house. There's the tea and coffee etc just help yourself whenever you're ready."

This is exactly what was said...

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Surplus2requirements · 24/08/2022 19:12

As a tradie it's nice to be told to help myself, 3 cups a day usually. It means I can take a break when suits the job rather than waiting and wondering when one will be offered.

I certainly don't expect to be waited on but any hint that they won't be serving me because I'm merely a random man paid to be there would make me think they were stuck up their own arse and think they were so much better than me, man or woman.

Surplus2requirements · 24/08/2022 19:19

Telivania · 24/08/2022 19:11

"And be a bit more polite to the people in your house. There's the tea and coffee etc just help yourself whenever you're ready."

This is exactly what was said...

What was said is fine, it's the reasoning of refusing to act as a servant for random men. I'm not surprised B thought that disrespectful.

Working in someone else's home is all about mutual trust and respect.

Surplus2requirements · 24/08/2022 19:22

I do politely turn down offers of food though beyond a biscuit.

mountainsunsets · 24/08/2022 19:26

I always offer to make the first drink for anyone working in my home, and will offer another if I'm making my own, otherwise I tell them they're free to help themselves to tea, coffee, juice or biscuits.

Did A not even bother to make one drink? If so, I do think that's incredibly rude.

Penguinsaregreat · 24/08/2022 19:29

I think A is totally fine.

Telivania · 24/08/2022 19:32

Surplus2requirements · 24/08/2022 19:19

What was said is fine, it's the reasoning of refusing to act as a servant for random men. I'm not surprised B thought that disrespectful.

Working in someone else's home is all about mutual trust and respect.

"What was said is fine, it's the reasoning of refusing to act as a servant for random men. I'm not surprised B thought that disrespectful."

What does this even mean? So I SHOULD act as a servant all day long for random men?

They had full access to drinks, snacks, food in cupboards, bathroom, etc.

Yes, I am A by the way as a lot of you shrewdly observed 😁 I obviously didn't disguise it very well!

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/08/2022 19:46

Telivania · 24/08/2022 19:11

"And be a bit more polite to the people in your house. There's the tea and coffee etc just help yourself whenever you're ready."

This is exactly what was said...

But that is not how you worded it in your OP.

That's what came across as rude

ImpartialMongoose · 24/08/2022 19:48

I don't think being hospitable means you are being someone's servant. When someone comes to my home I always offer them a drink whether they are paid or not. Added to that, person A is making it sound as if the workman are THEIR servants- we're paying you, get on and do your job and don't bother me. That seems very unfriendly and snobby.

ImpartialMongoose · 24/08/2022 19:50

Also, I think you can make the first drink out of common courtesy, then tell them to help themselves to subsequent drinks.

Telivania · 24/08/2022 19:51

ImpartialMongoose · 24/08/2022 19:48

I don't think being hospitable means you are being someone's servant. When someone comes to my home I always offer them a drink whether they are paid or not. Added to that, person A is making it sound as if the workman are THEIR servants- we're paying you, get on and do your job and don't bother me. That seems very unfriendly and snobby.

"person A is making it sound as if the workman are THEIR servants- we're paying you, get on and do your job and don't bother me. That seems very unfriendly and snobby."

That very clearly is not the implication, but crack on!

OP posts:
girlmom21 · 24/08/2022 19:52

What does this even mean? So I SHOULD act as a servant all day long for random men?

No but you shouldn't make a point of not doing it just because they're men

ImpartialMongoose · 24/08/2022 19:55

Telivania · 24/08/2022 19:51

"person A is making it sound as if the workman are THEIR servants- we're paying you, get on and do your job and don't bother me. That seems very unfriendly and snobby."

That very clearly is not the implication, but crack on!

I said that is how it SOUNDS.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 24/08/2022 20:09

I think A is correct.
I make a good morning drink, but there after I put out a tray with tea/mugs etc for them to help themselves.
I don't want to be constantly asking them if they want tea or them feeling that they have to ask every time.