Big house = classless

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I don't know if we've just been unlucky, but I've found in the last few places I've lived (mix of streets and relatively new estates) it's always the people in the bigger, more expensive homes who seem to have f*ck all class and show no consideration for neighbours?

Case in point - on one side I have a row of affordable housing - smaller terrace houses with gardens. On the other larger plots - 3x the price. Both inhabited by families. All the racket comes from these bigger houses. Dogs left barking all day. Loud music. Screaming kids. The constant crack-crack-crack of a fly zapper on the new pergola. Obnoxious new Porsche being revved next door.

AIBU to think money doesn't buy you class and often indicates extreme levels of entitlement?

I don't subscribe to the view that X behaviour is classy or classless.

However ime people who have money, particularly if they have grown up with it often think they are superior to others & are very entitled. Not all of course.

I agree, I think though that class is about the person and not their money. A poor person could be very classy, and so can a rich person. Class is all about attitude.
Some people will lots of money will be very entitled and think they're better than everyone. Those sorts of people will never have class

No these type of people are just knobs. They would be knobs in a small house too. Usually dull people, very little to talk about, I'm more surprised they have managed to succeed in life, but they probably had a lot of help.

Do you think all the antisocial neighbours we read about on MN live in bigger. more expensive houses? i very much doubt it.

Rude and entitled people exist in all parts of society.

I think your post comes across as very judgemental. Our house backs onto a row of terraces and is 3 x the square footage of each of them. We don’t behave like that and would be mortified to play loud music in the back garden, how embarrassing!

When my sister lived in a large house on a new development it was definitely the ‘affordable’ housing street that suffered from loud music, shouting, old bangers being revved at all hours and unkempt gardens. Similarly when my daughter bought her first house it was the two women in the housing association houses behind who sat on their front in their dressing gowns all day smoking and calling their children cunts. So I guess it varies and you take as you find.

I know it's judgmental, etc etc. But it's still too prevalent to be a coincidence. Don't get me wrong - we all make noise and I'm sure my neighbours hear me occasionally when we have people over, have music playing and the doors open etc. but the seriously obnoxious, ongoing, irritating noise is always, always from the same houses and it's always the expensive ones!

I'm not talking about genuinely awful antisocial behaviour - this is a consistent pattern of not giving a fuck about the people living around you.

Case in point, the guy in the big house opposite is currently in his garage playing house music on full blast on his big, probably very expensive, music system. Why wohld anyone think that is ok?!

Op, you need to sit down. The chip on your shoulder is massive

seriously you think only people with money rev engines or play loud music.🤣

No chip - I live in one of those pricey houses thanks to earning a decent salary and getting a good mortgage. I was just brought up by a mother who dragged me in if I was screeching and told me to be considerate of our neighbours. Some of our neighbours are lovely. I'm sure of the neighbours in the smaller houses are arseholes. But they don't inflict their lives on people around them.

Exactly.

Twats are all over

I live in one of those pricey houses thanks to earning a decent salary and getting a good mortgage

no you don’t. And you’re even stressed about how much the person opposites sound system cost. You’re money focussed.

I now live in a nice area with big detached houses. It's incredibly quiet. No one plays loud music. Sometimes you hear the sound of children playing, or garden equipment. There are a couple of porches, an Aston Martin, and some other expensive cars. I never hear them being revved, only see them being driven. I love it here. So no, your experience definitely differs from mine.

I know dickheads in small houses and lovely people in big houses, and vice versa.

There are decent people and selfish ones and in my experience it doesn’t correlate to how much money they have.

I'll play.

The people in the big houses you are describing (on a new build estate with houses of varying types) are not very well off anyway. If they were they would have bought a lovely big house on a street of naice big houses in a 'posh' area (and these areas are super quiet and full of thoughtful people). So you're dealing with entitled chavs made good. Ergo they think they can do as they please.

Don't like my sweeping judgmental style? Oh well thought I'd match yours.

FWIW people behave in all sorts of manners whether they have no money/made money/born from wealth. Imagine that!

Fair enough. I must just be incredibly unlucky with my scummy neighbours who happen to have lots of money.

They live in the same type of house as you presumably. So, unless you’re also an arsehole (which admittedly I won’t deny since class and money obsessives are generally arseholes) it’s not the house that’s the issue.

So you have arsehole neighbours. And because you’d love to whip it into a class issue your mind seeks out and remembers people that fit your criteria. If you had rude neighbours in little houses you’d ignore it because it doesn’t fit with your ideas.

Well no, I think you might have something here. Of course it's sweeping and judgemental. But it's a legitimate observation. The houses aren't the most expensive you could buy in this area but certainly above average. There's lots of new EVs, the odd Porsche and an Audi RS6. It's just odd that people in the low/mid range properties are almost all considerate

Perhaps your neighbours think you're the classless neighbour.

@HavfrueDenizKisi well said!

'Classless' is not the opposite of 'classy'.

Perhaps! But it won't be because I play loud music in the garden, disturb them late at night and into the early hours, leave my loud car engine running for hours, stand on my driveway arguing and swearing, etc.

How can a car be obnoxious?

I think you need to take a chill pill and focus less on the idea that nice houses and expensive cars are rewards for being well behaved.

Being able to afford a nice big house hasn't made you happy, and it doesnt entitle you to the sort of neighbours you seem to believe it does. You see others around you who have also been able to afford big houses who don't seem to deserve them. Your big house won't make you happy until you stop believing deep down that only the deserving get nice things. Mortgage lenders don't care that people like house music.

I'm not whipping it into a class issue. I'm not bringing class (per se) into it. I'm talking about being classless. If the word upsets you then replace it with "inconsiderate", "selfish".... etc.

No, it will be because you sit staring out at your neighbours noting the make of their car, whether or not they have a pergola, and rating them by class and house size, then starting threads about it.