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Big house = classless

91 replies

KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 11:16

I don't know if we've just been unlucky, but I've found in the last few places I've lived (mix of streets and relatively new estates) it's always the people in the bigger, more expensive homes who seem to have f*ck all class and show no consideration for neighbours?

Case in point - on one side I have a row of affordable housing - smaller terrace houses with gardens. On the other larger plots - 3x the price. Both inhabited by families. All the racket comes from these bigger houses. Dogs left barking all day. Loud music. Screaming kids. The constant crack-crack-crack of a fly zapper on the new pergola. Obnoxious new Porsche being revved next door.

AIBU to think money doesn't buy you class and often indicates extreme levels of entitlement?

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5128gap · 21/08/2022 16:41

DejaVoodoo · 21/08/2022 16:15

I live in a big house.

And I'm bloody lovely.

You'll not believe this then...I live in a small terrace and I'm a right obnoxious twat.😁

MissDollyMix · 21/08/2022 16:48

I don’t think it’s a size of house thing, I think it could be something to do with the type of people who are attracted to new build houses/estates. I live on a 1960’s estate. Most of the houses are bungalows which naturally appeals to pensioners so mostly our neighbours are very docile. Except the couple who live two doors down from us. They’re over 60 but it seems they think they live in Benidorm. Every day is party day at their house accompanied by loud music. I guess you just can’t generalise!

Mummy2mybear · 21/08/2022 16:48

Grumpusaurus · 21/08/2022 16:22

What an utterly stupid post! Don't be jealous ignorant cow!

This 👏 you sound jealous and your OP is completely ridiculous 🤣

vodkaredbullgirl · 21/08/2022 16:49

What's with all the neighbours post 🙄also with class?

5128gap · 21/08/2022 16:53

He1lo · 21/08/2022 16:34

We have the biggest house on our estate and are quietest family in the street.

We live here as in our area the character properties we’d prefer are £200,000 more for one less bedroom and we can’t afford it. As their usually cheaper I’ve found new build estate tend to be chavtastic. On ours it’s the ones with the least money who are the most obsessed with material things and trying to demonstrate their ‘wealth’. I don’t think they understand they are failing miserably and instead are emphasising how insecure they are.

Lol. Of course they're not!
They'll be far too busy enjoying their lives, having their mates round for parties, getting pleasure from their flash cars and designer clothes to worry about demonstrating anything to 'the quietest family in the biggest house' on the street. I'm sure you give them a lot more thought than they do you.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 21/08/2022 16:55

Jealousy is a curse OP.

StaunchMomma · 21/08/2022 17:03

We have the biggest house on our stretch of road and we're pretty quiet. I'd never let my DS be really noisy in the garden or play music etc.

The house closest to us has weeds higher than the front door and had a blazing row in the street last weekend with loads of swearing etc.

Sweeping generalisations rarely work, do they?

Pipsquiggle · 21/08/2022 17:03

HavfrueDenizKisi · 21/08/2022 15:28

I'll play.

The people in the big houses you are describing (on a new build estate with houses of varying types) are not very well off anyway. If they were they would have bought a lovely big house on a street of naice big houses in a 'posh' area (and these areas are super quiet and full of thoughtful people). So you're dealing with entitled chavs made good. Ergo they think they can do as they please.

Don't like my sweeping judgmental style? Oh well thought I'd match yours.

FWIW people behave in all sorts of manners whether they have no money/made money/born from wealth. Imagine that!

@HavfrueDenizKisi

Completely agree.

New estates are rarely the most expensive in the area but a good option for people at various life stages so it could be the mix of people together and how they live their lives which could be the issue.

OP - I think your hypothesis is wrong , inconsiderate twats can live in small or large houses

ClottedCreamAndStrawberries · 21/08/2022 17:06

KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 14:47

I know it's judgmental, etc etc. But it's still too prevalent to be a coincidence. Don't get me wrong - we all make noise and I'm sure my neighbours hear me occasionally when we have people over, have music playing and the doors open etc. but the seriously obnoxious, ongoing, irritating noise is always, always from the same houses and it's always the expensive ones!

I'm not talking about genuinely awful antisocial behaviour - this is a consistent pattern of not giving a fuck about the people living around you.

Case in point, the guy in the big house opposite is currently in his garage playing house music on full blast on his big, probably very expensive, music system. Why wohld anyone think that is ok?!

This is in your neck of the woods. It doesn’t happen everywhere you know. Maybe you need to move.

chaosmaker · 21/08/2022 17:08

PinkTonic · 21/08/2022 12:15

When my sister lived in a large house on a new development it was definitely the ‘affordable’ housing street that suffered from loud music, shouting, old bangers being revved at all hours and unkempt gardens. Similarly when my daughter bought her first house it was the two women in the housing association houses behind who sat on their front in their dressing gowns all day smoking and calling their children cunts. So I guess it varies and you take as you find.

What is bad about an unkempt wild garden? I like to think of mine as a living ecosystem, which it is! There is nothing antisocial about it at all and I find the reverse much worse. Everything killed for patio or decking.

KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:22

Grumpusaurus · 21/08/2022 16:22

What an utterly stupid post! Don't be jealous ignorant cow!

Keep up 🤓

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KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:23

HotDogKetchup · 21/08/2022 16:29

Whilst I agree money doesn’t buy class, generally those who can afford to don’t live in/nearby social housing.

Sheltered, much?

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KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:23

EmeraldShamrock1 · 21/08/2022 16:33

Judging people and making it about class is classless IMO.

You've used "classless" incorrectly and you're classist - sure one of the PPs will be along to correct you shortly 😊

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MajorCarolDanvers · 21/08/2022 17:24

Rude people live in all sizes of of houses

stayathomer · 21/08/2022 17:24

I have to admit we’re louder because we live in the country than we would be in an estate. There’s 6 of us and I try to keep the noise down but I do sometimes have music on inside (not very loud but the window has been open) and the kids can have me in and out telling them to keep it down. I am terrified our neighbours hate us and I really try but I think we are noisy, especially as we’re the only young family. Thanks We’ve lived in estates and in an apartment and I was so paranoid all the time because I could hear everything!! And my god why are there so many angry people on this thread!!!!

KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:24

Lovemusic33 · 21/08/2022 16:35

The truth is….anyone can be a twat whatever their class is.

I live on a road of 3 bed houses (small houses), some HA, most people are quite but several are not, I would say they are all similar class, just some are twats and others are not.

Well absolutely. I'm just ranting about what is a concentration of dicks with money on my estate

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PuzzledObserver · 21/08/2022 17:24

I guarantee that if you look hard enough you will find threads on mumsnet which either imply or baldly state that certain types of people (benefit claimants, single mums, social housing, large families….) are less considerate/more antisocial than the other type of people. And they would be just as wrong.

Its not about money.

Its not about social class

It’s about being brought up to be considerate of others, and successfully integrating that upbringing into your adult attitudes and behaviours. And since there is good and bad parenting all across all strata of society, there are considerate people and selfish arses across all strata of society as well.

By the way - if people have enough money to afford big houses, Porsches, or whatever else - why shouldn’t they have them? That does not, in and of itself, make them a knob. Boasting about it and using them in ways that inconvenience others makes them a knob. Knobs who lack the money for big house and Porsches can still be knobs with small houses and beaten up Cavaliers.

KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:26

MissDollyMix · 21/08/2022 16:48

I don’t think it’s a size of house thing, I think it could be something to do with the type of people who are attracted to new build houses/estates. I live on a 1960’s estate. Most of the houses are bungalows which naturally appeals to pensioners so mostly our neighbours are very docile. Except the couple who live two doors down from us. They’re over 60 but it seems they think they live in Benidorm. Every day is party day at their house accompanied by loud music. I guess you just can’t generalise!

This is probably right - these people all built off plan and even based on current prices they overpaid. Maybe it is a new build thing that attracts a certain type, particularly to the biggest plots with the big garages (not used for cars of course, full of sound systems)

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KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:27

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 21/08/2022 16:55

Jealousy is a curse OP.

I'm totally happy to admit to jealousy and I am reflecting based on the flaming I've got here. I genuinely don't think it's jealousy. I just find them to be awful, awful people and it occurred to me today that it all comes from one side of the estate

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KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:29

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/08/2022 17:24

Rude people live in all sizes of of houses

As I stated in a previous post. That's not what this is about

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badgerybadgerboo · 21/08/2022 17:33

I've recently heard the same being said about people who drive Nissan Navara trucks.

I overheard the conversation in our local pub last week. Off duty policeman said its always the same type of "classless yob" who gets caught speeding in them around town or down the motorway.

Then mentioned the oversized new build that tends to come with the Navara.

Personally, I think it's rude to judge like that 🤔

Sparklypant · 21/08/2022 17:34

What’s your obsession with people having money? I understand many are struggling but this is something else, from houses to sound systems to cars you can’t stop going on about folks you perceive to have money

and the reason it’s abundantly clear you do not live in one of the homes you’re deeply envious of is your phrasing.”I live in one of those pricey houses”. No one says this about their home. They’d maybe say my house is at the more expensive end etc, but the words “on of those pricey homes” shows it’s not yours.

stop focusing on what other people have and how much money they have. Focus on your own life. You’ll be happier. Coming on line to call them all inconsiderate arseholes won’t make them skint

Cheeselog · 21/08/2022 17:34

I live in a terrace and many of my neighbours are antisocial/inconsiderate. Right now I can hear a neighbour 3 doors down getting her dog whipped up into a yapping frenzy again. I hate that sodding dog.

Seymour5 · 21/08/2022 17:40

I worked in social housing. I’ve lived in all sorts of housing, but have never known the same number of neighbour issues occur elsewhere. There are no workers dealing exclusively with anti social behaviour in private areas (although some might need them) but I had several council colleagues who did little else.

Excess noise, vandalism, aggression, litter, threats, violence. Old cars and fridges as garden ornaments, foul language. And scary dogs. Housing policies based almost solely on need as the numbers of properties reduced has resulted in some estates becoming concentrations of all the above.

KeepYaHeadUp · 21/08/2022 17:41

Sparklypant · 21/08/2022 17:34

What’s your obsession with people having money? I understand many are struggling but this is something else, from houses to sound systems to cars you can’t stop going on about folks you perceive to have money

and the reason it’s abundantly clear you do not live in one of the homes you’re deeply envious of is your phrasing.”I live in one of those pricey houses”. No one says this about their home. They’d maybe say my house is at the more expensive end etc, but the words “on of those pricey homes” shows it’s not yours.

stop focusing on what other people have and how much money they have. Focus on your own life. You’ll be happier. Coming on line to call them all inconsiderate arseholes won’t make them skint

Wow! Such insight. A) I think it's a bit much to say I'm obsessed with money. I've made a passing observation while spending yet another Sunday listening to noise from the same people and posted on AIBU? about it. If that equates to an obsession what does that say about any other threads or posters on here. Bit much of a leap.

I love your pop psychology / linguistics attempt to discredit my claim about where I live. I don't know how lying would benefit me on an anonymous Internet forum and I can't obvious prove where I live in relation to them. You'll just have to take my word for it I guess. And if you think I'm trolling / not genuine feel free to report my post to MN 😊

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