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To think these comments are homophobic?

154 replies

TooFullToCare · 21/08/2022 00:05

I’ve started seeing someone (likely for not much longer).

We were discussing what each of us were doing for bank holiday a few weeks back and I’m going to Brighton to see a friend. He commented that he didn’t like Brighton and then asked that’s the gay capital right? I said it was and is there a problem with that?

He said no but it’s very liberal there and he doesn’t like it in his face.

Ok …..

And today I was saying how I want to see Queen, he said he loves Bohemia Rhapsody. I commented did he not like any others? So I stated listing them and I said “I want to break free” - and he said no definitely not that, I asked if it’s because he’s dressed as a woman in the video. He retorted no but it’s about how he wants to break free …

Whatever that means. I’m on the fence with him anyway but this has sealed it for me I think.

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mangoontoast · 28/08/2022 17:37

TooFullToCare · 21/08/2022 00:14

Thank you!

I want to see Killer Queen but have no one to go with as clearly none of my family or friends have taste.

Slightly off topic - go alone! You can still enjoy it.

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 17:42

hyperbyke · 28/08/2022 17:26

Saying things on an Internet forum you don't like is neither oppressive not tyrannical.

If your feelings are being hurt maybe go and do something else.

Lol, my feelings are not remotely hurt. I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the ostracising that goes on if people don't worship at the rainbow altar. And yes, as a collective the attitude exhibited by the self-righteous in this thread is extremely oppressive - it's literally the culture war we're dealing with throughout the nation. People should not be bullied or emotionally pestered into any environment they don't feel comfortable with. The tolerance and courtesy that was originally asked for has gone full-circle and now people are only allowed to revere gay culture - which, btw is not representative of individual gay people anyway.

Fancydancer1934 · 28/08/2022 17:44

drbuzzaro · 28/08/2022 17:11

it's sad that there is yet another thread of straight people trying to explain away homophobia

It doesn't need to be explained away - it just is. See

kmblark · 28/08/2022 18:36

see...

ArchieStar · 28/08/2022 19:54

lemmein · 21/08/2022 00:09

Anyone who doesn't worship Queen is a wrong 'un! 🚩🚩🚩

THIS!!!

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 21:48

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 17:20

Eh?? It's not! But he doesn't want to go there!

Lords you people are so oppressive and tyrannical. The laughable thing is you all think you're freedom fighters.

This is literally what you said when I asked if it would be okay for him to avoid an areas with a big black or Asian population:

Whut? It absolutely depends on whether the environment was hostile and whether there was really anything of interest there to him.

Hence I asked if you thought Brighton was a hostile environment. Yet now apparently you’re sooooo confuuuused! Eh?! Whaaaat?!?

FYI, you jumped the shark at ‘tyrannical’.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 21:54

rwalker · 28/08/2022 17:09

it’s not about orientation it’s the scene he doesn’t like
it’s like if you go to Blackpool the gay quarter by Blackpool north train station is very loud proud in your face music blasting drag bars funny girl drag show bars when there’s a cruising areas I’m guessing that’s the type of thing he doesn’t like not gay people

Well, I hope you and all your gay friends who don’t actually want to meet anyone gay have a lovely time in Saudi Arabia.

rwalker · 28/08/2022 23:37

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 21:54

Well, I hope you and all your gay friends who don’t actually want to meet anyone gay have a lovely time in Saudi Arabia.

That desperate to to be outraged you totally miss the point
not everyone likes the loud brash and in your face scene
no idea why you say we don’t want to meet gay people just don’t want to go to canal st or Blackpool

entropynow · 28/08/2022 23:42

OneTC · 28/08/2022 01:18

You often see comments on here about Brighton being super liberal and being described as woke though.

And men in dresses also not a crowd favourite.

Quite. Given the intense hatred of trans people so often expressed and tolerated on this site the hypocrisy is off the scale here.
Never OP, if he doesn't align with your important values there's not a future here, sorry

entropynow · 28/08/2022 23:42

nevertheless

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 29/08/2022 03:26

rwalker · 28/08/2022 23:37

That desperate to to be outraged you totally miss the point
not everyone likes the loud brash and in your face scene
no idea why you say we don’t want to meet gay people just don’t want to go to canal st or Blackpool

It’s nothing to do with wanting to be ‘outraged’. I just find your ever-more desperate ‘But look over here, look!! Gay people who don’t like the scene! Therefore it can’t be homophobic to avoid a whole city because gay people are there!’ routine a little bit desperate.

Redqueenheart · 29/08/2022 09:19

@rwalker ''Brighton is recognised as the gay capital of the uk .if you go there it’s obviously gay orientated so as a straight person non scene he doesn’t want to go''

You will actually find more gay people living in London than in Brighton, do you also avoid the capital because of it?

I also find it bizarre that some people seem to assume all gay people are walking around partying 24/7 in the streets of Brighton while most of them are likely to just be going about their regular life like anyone else...

MrsRuggles · 29/08/2022 09:53

Snoozer11 · 28/08/2022 13:16

People are perfectly entitled to not like gay culture.

They are entitled to not like it, they are not entitled to act in any way detrimental to it. OP is entitled to bin the bloke for being a homophobic waste of space.

rwalker · 29/08/2022 10:08

Redqueenheart · 29/08/2022 09:19

@rwalker ''Brighton is recognised as the gay capital of the uk .if you go there it’s obviously gay orientated so as a straight person non scene he doesn’t want to go''

You will actually find more gay people living in London than in Brighton, do you also avoid the capital because of it?

I also find it bizarre that some people seem to assume all gay people are walking around partying 24/7 in the streets of Brighton while most of them are likely to just be going about their regular life like anyone else...

Can’t be bothered to engage anymore
don’t know how many times it’s not about gay people as been stated many times

excitingusername · 29/08/2022 11:02

@rwalker I'm just always amazed to see how successful the years of indoctrination has been in turning most people into one-track outrage drones who can't think critically or differently from each other about any major issues.

flawlessfilter · 29/08/2022 11:18

CandyLeBonBon · 28/08/2022 11:38

I live close to Brighton. It's a bit up itself but not because of its gay population- Brighton just thinks it's better than everyone else! The area around the lanes/north Laine and the seafront is nice but there's a lot of scabby run down, tired looking areas behind the facade. And landlords there are awful from my experience. Nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there though.

Your fella does sound like a homophobe though. I'd ditch him.

Isn’t that every single area in the world? Hardly exclusive to Brighton.

lioncitygirl · 29/08/2022 11:23

I want to live to Brighton!

TooFullToCare · 29/08/2022 11:36

Firty · 28/08/2022 15:15

I don’t think it’s homophobic to dislike Brighton’s obsession with promoting gay sex in public spaces. The penis bollards were particularly gross, and I’m not a fan of them changing the proposed giant ferris wheel into a ring that slides up and down a giant phallic symbol, either. Plus their assumption rainbow = gay gets annoying, people kept congratulating my toddler DS on the rainbow on his tshirt. I don’t want strange men chatting up my toddler.

It would be weird to not like Queen, but he just said Bohemian Rhapsody is his favourite musical?

Sounds like an argument over nothing tbh. If you wanna break up, break up 🤷‍♀️you sound like hard work to me.

And you sound like a stuck up energy vampire that probably has sex with her socks on - but we all have our crosses to bear.

It wasn’t an argument (were you there?) it was an exchange of words called a conversation. Homophobia is a deal breaker for me. You however would never understand as you clearly have deep rooted issues towards men. Accusing them of chatting up your toddler. Pretty big accusation to insinuate they are paedophiles.

He also never said BR was his favourite musical. He said he liked the song - sorry the part in my OP was so difficult for you to grasp.

You also didn’t grasp the part that this man isn’t my boyfriend. Gosh you really are hard work aren’t you.

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OneTC · 29/08/2022 11:41

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 14:00

Ffs, women are a nightmare for this crap. Allow the poor bloke to be a heterosexual. It is kinda defined by not wanting the other stuff. He doesn't 'have' to like any of it or to go anywhere it is very dominant. Tolerance and reasonableness is all that is required.

Mind you, it is clear you would aggressively undermine him at every turn longterm, parenting etc so he needs to escape, pronto.

Christ on a fucking bike

OneTC · 29/08/2022 11:46

ZombieLIfe · 28/08/2022 15:58

I’ve been here ten years and the only homophobic comments I have seen are those trying to argue that gay and lesbian does not mean same sex attracted.

I’ve also not seen anyone be against men in dresses. I have seen lots of comments saying men should be able to wear dresses and regard them as ‘their’ clothes rather than women’s clothes. There’s is a lot of support here for men who want to ‘break free’ from masculinity stereotypes, by dressing as they please.

There was just a "shut up gays, you've got it real good" thread last week

OneTC · 29/08/2022 11:49

if you go there it’s obviously gay orientated.

The pier points straight to planet gay.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 29/08/2022 12:00

excitingusername · 29/08/2022 11:02

@rwalker I'm just always amazed to see how successful the years of indoctrination has been in turning most people into one-track outrage drones who can't think critically or differently from each other about any major issues.

You use an awful lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

TooFullToCare · 29/08/2022 12:07

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 14:00

Ffs, women are a nightmare for this crap. Allow the poor bloke to be a heterosexual. It is kinda defined by not wanting the other stuff. He doesn't 'have' to like any of it or to go anywhere it is very dominant. Tolerance and reasonableness is all that is required.

Mind you, it is clear you would aggressively undermine him at every turn longterm, parenting etc so he needs to escape, pronto.

What a sad little life Jane.

One of my exs (met in LA) he was gorgeous, tall, dark hair, tattoos, smoked, rode a motorbike, worked in construction. We took a spontaneous flight to NY and randomly met a gay man in a bar and he showed us the best two nights in Harlem. Because my ex was so comfortable in his own sexuality that he couldn’t give two shits what sexuality anyone else has - like myself.

We ended things on a very good note as I’d had to leave when my work visa expired and long distance with a 7 hour time difference was shit. We’re still good friends after 8 years. Weird he never felt I aggressively undermined him at any point.

And my attitude now if someone says I don’t want to go somewhere because there might be gay people there - cool you do you and that’s my cue to remove you from my life. Peace out, no drama.

I’m sorry you’re not comfortable in your own sexuality that you cannot be around gay people and you’re that judgemental you probably oppose same sex marriage. Your life must be awful - I think you should seek therapy.

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excitingusername · 29/08/2022 15:39

TooFullToCare · 29/08/2022 12:07

What a sad little life Jane.

One of my exs (met in LA) he was gorgeous, tall, dark hair, tattoos, smoked, rode a motorbike, worked in construction. We took a spontaneous flight to NY and randomly met a gay man in a bar and he showed us the best two nights in Harlem. Because my ex was so comfortable in his own sexuality that he couldn’t give two shits what sexuality anyone else has - like myself.

We ended things on a very good note as I’d had to leave when my work visa expired and long distance with a 7 hour time difference was shit. We’re still good friends after 8 years. Weird he never felt I aggressively undermined him at any point.

And my attitude now if someone says I don’t want to go somewhere because there might be gay people there - cool you do you and that’s my cue to remove you from my life. Peace out, no drama.

I’m sorry you’re not comfortable in your own sexuality that you cannot be around gay people and you’re that judgemental you probably oppose same sex marriage. Your life must be awful - I think you should seek therapy.

What weird projections - and yes your predictably aggressive outrage is definitely there. I only spoke about the bloke who didn't want to go to Brighton. You know what kind of metrosexual man you want, chuck, that's the spice of life. Whether not wanting to revel with the rainbow in Brighton was homophobic was what was being debated here.

excitingusername · 29/08/2022 15:42

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